USA Izbori

[Budja]

 

Ali nema veze hvala Bogu sto nije zla vestica koja je slala emailove sa privatnog servera pobedila.

 

Kako da ti kazem, ovaj izborni poraz nesto govori i o kompetentnosti kandidata.

Cinjenica da je ovaj izvozao u Pensilvaniji govori da je ceo taj trust mozogova oko nje, sa iskustvom, i hiljada policies, izgleda na nivou Krleta.

I tu sever nema nikakve veze vec odsustvo politickog sluha.

 

Nacin poraza - da je Trump pobeio u igri strategije gde je ona kao  najjaca, govori i o tome da bi kao predsednik, sa ionako sumnjivim rasudjivanjem, donosila odluke na osnofu fals informacija i kratkovide strategije okruzena vojvodo-serdarima istomisljenicima iz 92% Distrikta Kolumbija.

[Eraserhead]

Kako da ti kazem, ovaj izborni poraz nesto govori i o kompetentnosti kandidata.

Cinjenica da je ovaj izvozao u Pensilvaniji govori da je ceo taj trust mozogova oko nje, sa iskustvom, i hiljada policies, izgleda na nivou Krleta.

I tu sever nema nikakve veze vec odsustvo politickog sluha.

 

Nacin poraza - da je Trump pobeio u igri strategije gde je ona kao najjaca, govori i o tome da bi kao predsednik, sa ionako sumnjivim rasudjivanjem, donosila odluke na osnofu fals informacija i kratkovide strategije okruzena vojvodo-serdarima istomisljenicima iz 92% Distrikta Kolumbija.

Naravno da je Hillary uzasan kandidat i da je njen tim glavni krivac za poraz ali samo stavljam dve opcije u perspektivu.

 

That said deo Trampove strategije su i sajtovi poput Breitbarta koji poluinformacijama i dezonformacijama udaraju na najnize porive i strahove i tako postaju uticajniji od mainstream medija. Takvih je internet prepun i to je veci problem i od Trampa ali i posebna tema. Ja iskreno ne znam ni kako se boriti protiv toga.Internetizacijom u debilizaciju.

Edited November 14, 2016 by Eraserhead

[dragance]

A nije da nema i slicnih primera na suprotnoj strani...

[Eraserhead]

A nije da nema i slicnih primera na suprotnoj strani...

Ja da budem iskren ne hvatam to toliko na drugoj strani. Postoji citava mreza sajtova koji raspredaju teorije zavere ala Malagurski i promovisu ekstremne politicke ideje. To je u toj meri uzelo maha i ljudi se lepe za to da su neki od njih danas poseceniji nego mainstream mediji.

[dragance]

Tačno, ali bilo bi dobro kada bi se ovo uzelo u obzir prvo: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/13/opinion/the-democrats-screwed-up.html

[Lord Protector]

Breitbart, Reveling in Trump’s Election, Gains a Voice in His White House

 

There is talk of Breitbart bureaus opening in Paris, Berlin and Cairo, spots where the populist right is on the rise. A bigger newsroom is coming in Washington, the better to cover a president-elect whose candidacy it embraced.

Mainstream news outlets are soul-searching in the wake of being shocked by Donald J. Trump’s election last week. But the team at Breitbart News, the right-wing opinion and news website that some critics have denounced as a hate site, is elated — and eager to expand on a victory that it views as a profound validation of its cause.

“So much of the media mocked us, laughed at us, called us all sorts of names,” Alexander Marlow, the site’s editor in chief, said in an interview on Sunday. “And then for us to be seen as integral to the election of a president, despite all of that hatred, is something that we certainly enjoy, and savor.”

Breitbart not only championed Mr. Trump; its chairman, Stephen K. Bannon, helped run his campaign. On Sunday, Mr. Trump named Mr. Bannon as his chief White House strategist and senior counselor, further closing the distance between Breitbart’s newsroom and the president-elect.

Those who consider Mr. Trump, who has vilified the news media, a threat to the free press view Mr. Bannon’s appointment as more cause for alarm. Critics say Breitbart now has the potential to play an unprecedented role in a modern presidency, as a weaponized media adjunct for the White House.

“It will be as close as we are ever going to have — hopefully — to a state-run media enterprise,” said Kurt Bardella, a former Breitbart spokesman who quit the site this year, saying it had turned into a de facto “super PAC” for Mr. Trump.

Breitbart has been denounced as misogynist, racist and xenophobic, and it served as a clearinghouse for attacks on Mr. Trump’s adversaries, spreading unsubstantiated rumors about Hillary Clinton’s health and undermining its own reporter, Michelle Fields, after she accused Corey Lewandowski, then Mr. Trump’s campaign manager, of assaulting her.

The site frequently boasts about knowing the pulse of its readers. News articles with evocative headlines, like “Paris Streets Turned into WARZONE by Violent Migrants,” are frequently followed by comments from readers about “the enemy within,” migrant “scum” and the “Jewish-controlled media.” Breitbart’s writers often vilify the Black Lives Matter movement, emphasizing what they say is a wave of “black-on-black crime.”

But the site’s influence on social media, where more and more Americans now consume information, has been palpable. On election night, Breitbart’s Facebook page received the fourth-highest number of user interactions on the entire platform — beating Fox News, CNN and The New York Times.

Mr. Marlow, the editor, praised Mr. Bannon on Sunday, saying, “Steve understands the voters, the American people, better than just about anyone.” But he rejected the premise that Breitbart could become an American version of Pravda.

“Our loyalty is not going to be to Donald Trump; our loyalty is to our readers and to our values,” Mr. Marlow, 30, said. “That’s regardless of what role Steve has.”

“If Trump runs his administration and honors the voters who voted him in, we’re all good,” Mr. Marlow added. “But if he is going to turn his back on those values and principles that drove his voters to the polls, we’re going to be highly critical. We’re not going to think twice about it.”

For now, Breitbart is supporting the president-elect. Its post-Election Day coverage has been, if anything, emboldened: “Meltdown Continues: Wave of Fake ‘Hate Crimes’ Sweeps Social Media,” read a headline on its home page on Sunday, attempting to cast doubt on a wave of reports of intimidation and harassment by Trump supporters. “Anti-Democracy Crybabies March by Thousands Nationwide,” read another.

The site’s expansion of political coverage comes at a time when other news outlets in Washington are concerned about staying relevant with readers — and girding for tensions with a president-elect who denounces reporters as dishonest, or worse.

A spokesman for the White House Correspondents’ Association, which coordinates press coverage of the White House, declined to comment on Mr. Bannon’s appointment.

Andrew Breitbart, the site’s founder, who died in 2012, “used to talk about the Democrat-media complex,” recalled Ben Shapiro, Breitbart’s former editor at large.

“It’s hard to think of a more Republican-media complex than Breitbart and the Trump team,” Mr. Shapiro said. “I’ll be fascinated to see if there are any points of departure, any points of criticism at all.”

Outlets like Fox News, which has a large Republican audience, insist that Breitbart is no competitor, saying that an online-only outlet with few known personalities can hardly compete with television networks that reach tens of millions of homes.

Breitbart receives far fewer unique web visitors than Fox News’s digital sites, according to statistics from comScore. Still, its Facebook audience has more than doubled in the last year, and it frequently sets the agenda for social media users with their own mass followings. The site has spotlighted nationalist views and conspiracies once relegated to the right-wing fringe.

Larry Solov, Breitbart’s chief executive, declined on Sunday to provide revenue figures for the site. Nor would he comment on whether Mr. Bannon, a former Goldman Sachs banker, retains a financial stake. (Mr. Solov is a part owner, along with Andrew Breitbart’s estate and the family of Robert Mercer, a wealthy Trump donor.)

Speaking by telephone from Hearst Castle in California, which he was visiting for a postelection vacation, Mr. Solov said that his teams had been flooded with résumés from reporters and even some aspiring journalists with no experience, “who feel motivated and energized.”

“We’ve built a community, and I really emphasize that,” Mr. Solov said. “People come to us because they feel they belong to something.”

Mr. Marlow, the editor, said the site’s international expansion was tied to upcoming elections in France and Germany. He said that Breitbart planned to support the candidacy of Marine Le Pen, the leader of France’s far-right National Front party.

“There’s an underserved readership” in Europe, Mr. Marlow said, before referring to the recent “Brexit” vote. “It’s the same readers who had been ignored in Britain and had been ignored in the United States.”

On Sunday, with Mr. Bannon elevated to one of the country’s most powerful positions, the site took on a celebratory air. Linking to a story about Mr. Bannon’s new role, the @BreitbartNews Twitter account wrote, to its more than 400,000 followers: “What a time to be alive.”

 

Edited November 14, 2016 by slow

[bigvlada]

Kandidat na izborima 2020te, prva zena POTUS??

 

Da mogu da glasam tamo ne bih imao ništa protiv, ionako deluje živahnije od Bernija. 

 

 

Ovo je kao početak lošeg vica, sastali se američki Bogoljub Karić i britanski Vojislav Šešelj. 

[Lord Protector]

Britain to Tell Trump: Forget Islamic State, Depose Assad Instead

 

Britain’s Foreign Office will spend the next three months trying to convince senior figures in Donald Trump’s team not to prioritise fighting Islamic terrorists in Syria.

Since becoming president-elect Trump has reaffirmed his intention to cut support to Islamist rebels and instead concentrate on fighting Islamic State (ISIS), in what will be a marked shift in foreign policy.

The business magnate has previously conceded he would be willing to work with Russia to “knock the hell out of” the Islamist group, because of the global threat Islamic terrorism poses to the world.

But Trump’s views are highly contradictory to those of Theresa May, who last month called for Russia to be punished over its “sickening atrocities” in fighting Islamist rebels, many of whom are linked to al-Qaeda, in East Aleppo.

Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson is expected to fly to the US within weeks to meet with senior figures in Trump’s administration to steer their focus towards toppling Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Britain will spend the next three months before Trump enters the White House trying to convince the president-elect and his team that it’s essential Syria’s leader be removed from power, according to the Telegraph.

 

In his first interview with the Wall Street Journal, the property tycoon said his administration will prioritise defeating Islamic State rather than deposing Assad.

He told the business-focused newspaper: “I’ve had an opposite view of many people regarding Syria. My attitude was you’re fighting Syria, Syria is fighting ISIS, and you have to get rid of ISIS.”

Reiterating concerns he has voiced in the past over arming rebels, many of whom share ideology with ISIS-aligned jihadis, Trump echoed warnings he has made on the campaign trail, pointing out that a focus on ousting Assad puts America in danger of sparking World War Three.

Foreign Office officials say they believe it will be “very difficult” to convince the president-elect to change his foreign policy stance.

On the campaign trail in August Trump vowed that if he became president, “the era of nation building will be brought to a very swift and decisive end”. The Apprentice host has blamed the West’s backing of regime change for the rise of ISIS, saying that in 2009 Libya was stable, Syria was under control, and Egypt was ruled by a secular president.

After observing that Western interventions led to the destabilisation of the Middle East and the destruction of Libya, which led to millions of migrants entering Europe, Trump declared: “It is now time for a new approach.”

Edited November 14, 2016 by slow

[Toni Sumaher]

Mr. Marlow, the editor, said the site’s international expansion was tied to upcoming elections in France and Germany. He said that Breitbart planned to support the candidacy of Marine Le Pen, the leader of France’s far-right National Front party.

 

 

Steve Bannon, who helped Trump to victory, may be named his chief of staff, and is also executive chair of the right-wing Brietbart News group, recently told French media he believed "France is the place to be, with its young entrepreneurs [and] women of the family Le Pen" adding that "Marion Marechal-Le Pen is the new rising star".

It is unclear if there has actually been any contact between the two individuals. But posting to her 208,000 followers on Twitter, the younger Le Pen said: "I answer yes to the invitation of Stephen Bannon, CEO of the Trump presidential campaign, to work together."

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/marine-le-pen-marr-french-president-brexit-trump-marr-us-elections-a7414686.html

 

Nazdravlje.

[Hella]

 

 

u heraldiku ne znam ali ovo za nerotkinje i samoraznosače je 100% istina

 

ps

prilično je swatko što su babotovi prvo bili u fazončiću #lovetrumpshate a onda u manje od nedelju dana istrendovali #diewhitesdie #assasinatetrump i evo danas #rapemelania valjda je to ta sloboda govora

Edited November 14, 2016 by Hella

[Ravanelli]

Steve Bannon, who helped Trump to victory, may be named his chief of staff, and is also executive chair of the right-wing Brietbart News group, recently told French media he believed "France is the place to be, with its young entrepreneurs [and] women of the family Le Pen" adding that "Marion Marechal-Le Pen is the new rising star".

It is unclear if there has actually been any contact between the two individuals. But posting to her 208,000 followers on Twitter, the younger Le Pen said: "I answer yes to the invitation of Stephen Bannon, CEO of the Trump presidential campaign, to work together."

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/marine-le-pen-marr-french-president-brexit-trump-marr-us-elections-a7414686.html

 

Nazdravlje.

 

verovatno će joj prodati analitičku mašinu koja im je omoguila da dobiju izbore. što da ne zarade koji milion?

[iDemo]

 

Britain to Tell Trump: Forget Islamic State, Depose Assad Instead: Britain’s Foreign Office will spend the next three months trying to convince senior figures in Donald Trump’s team not to prioritise fighting Islamic terrorists in Syria.

 

 

Dobro je sto je danas sve transparentno™ - ne moze sutra niko da se bavi kojekakvim teorijama zavere i da ceka 20-30 godina da se otvore arhive, ne? 

A da je boles' - boles' je... 

[MNE]

Ja da budem iskren ne hvatam to toliko na drugoj strani. 

ono za Trampov server konektovan do Kremlja je gore od svega ovoga zajedno, a takvih primjera je bilo koliko voliš

 

pa za sami poraz su optužili direktora FBI, iako je isti 2 puta spasao ćorke, možda je trebalo da uhapsi Trampa zbog gorepomenutog virtuelnog servera

[Lord Protector]

verovatno će joj prodati analitičku mašinu koja im je omoguila da dobiju izbore. što da ne zarade koji milion?

 

Problem je izgleda što ciljano pomažu političke istomišljenike. Mislim da to protivnici vide već kao namernu međunarodnu akciju i mešanje u unutrašnje stvari.

[Takeshi]

Znao sam! Od pppovaca su na kraju za Tramparu ostali samo ovi sto nemaju pravo glasa. Tako i treba.

 

pa kad ce trampara da krene da prebrojava ko je sve amerikancima oteo posao 

(u sledecem mandatu)