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[Eraserhead]

Kapiram da je Obamaker zapravo prilicno popularan u praksi medju WWC glasacima koji cine jezgro Trampove podrske

Iz mog iskustva (koje je naravno ograniceno) rekao bih da nije.

[Tutankamon]

šadenfrojde :)

 

 

Tri nedelje u nazad su plakali od smeha (pa po malo i piškali u gaće) na CNN-u kako glupavi i tupavi Donald Tramp rasipa dragocene resurse i energiju na kampanju u Pensilveniji, Viskonsinu i Mičigenu a svi znamo da tamo nema teoretskih šansi...

Edited November 12, 2016 by Tutankamon

[hazard]

ahahahahaha kakva luzerka bedna

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37963965

 

 

Trump election: Clinton blames defeat on FBI director

 

Hillary Clinton has blamed her defeat in the US presidential election on interventions by the FBI director.

 

James Comey's announcement of a new inquiry into her use of email while secretary of state shortly before election day had stopped her campaign's momentum, Mrs Clinton said.

 

The Democratic candidate was speaking to top party donors in a phone call, which was leaked to the media.

[MancMellow]

 

 

Bernie Sanders: Where the Democrats Go From Here

By BERNIE SANDERS

 

NOV. 11, 2016

 

 

Millions of Americans registered a protest vote on Tuesday, expressing their fierce opposition to an economic and political system that puts wealthy and corporate interests over their own. I strongly supported Hillary Clinton, campaigned hard on her behalf, and believed she was the right choice on Election Day. But Donald J. Trump won the White House because his campaign rhetoric successfully tapped into a very real and justified anger, an anger that many traditional Democrats feel.

 

I am saddened, but not surprised, by the outcome. It is no shock to me that millions of people who voted for Mr. Trump did so because they are sick and tired of the economic, political and media status quo.

 

Working families watch as politicians get campaign financial support from billionaires and corporate interests — and then ignore the needs of ordinary Americans. Over the last 30 years, too many Americans were sold out by their corporate bosses. They work longer hours for lower wages as they see decent paying jobs go to China, Mexico or some other low-wage country. They are tired of having chief executives make 300 times what they do, while 52 percent of all new income goes to the top 1 percent. Many of their once beautiful rural towns have depopulated, their downtown stores are shuttered, and their kids are leaving home because there are no jobs — all while corporations suck the wealth out of their communities and stuff them into offshore accounts.

 

Working Americans can’t afford decent, quality child care for their children. They can’t send their kids to college, and they have nothing in the bank as they head into retirement. In many parts of the country they can’t find affordable housing, and they find the cost of health insurance much too high. Too many families exist in despair as drugs, alcohol and suicide cut life short for a growing number of people.

 

President-elect Trump is right: The American people want change. But what kind of change will he be offering them? Will he have the courage to stand up to the most powerful people in this country who are responsible for the economic pain that so many working families feel, or will he turn the anger of the majority against minorities, immigrants, the poor and the helpless?

 

Will he have the courage to stand up to Wall Street, work to break up the “too big to fail” financial institutions and demand that big banks invest in small businesses and create jobs in rural America and inner cities? Or, will he appoint another Wall Street banker to run the Treasury Department and continue business as usual? Will he, as he promised during the campaign, really take on the pharmaceutical industry and lower the price of prescription drugs?

I am deeply distressed to hear stories of Americans being intimidated and harassed in the wake of Mr. Trump’s victory, and I hear the cries of families who are living in fear of being torn apart. We have come too far as a country in combating discrimination. We are not going back. Rest assured, there is no compromise on racism, bigotry, xenophobia and sexism. We will fight it in all its forms, whenever and wherever it re-emerges.

 

I will keep an open mind to see what ideas Mr. Trump offers and when and how we can work together. Having lost the nationwide popular vote, however, he would do well to heed the views of progressives. If the president-elect is serious about pursuing policies that improve the lives of working families, I’m going to present some very real opportunities for him to earn my support.

 

Let’s rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and create millions of well-paying jobs. Let’s raise the minimum wage to a living wage, help students afford to go to college, provide paid family and medical leave and expand Social Security. Let’s reform an economic system that enables billionaires like Mr. Trump not to pay a nickel in federal income taxes. And most important, let’s end the ability of wealthy campaign contributors to buy elections.

 

In the coming days, I will also provide a series of reforms to reinvigorate the Democratic Party. I believe strongly that the party must break loose from its corporate establishment ties and, once again, become a grass-roots party of working people, the elderly and the poor. We must open the doors of the party to welcome in the idealism and energy of young people and all Americans who are fighting for economic, social, racial and environmental justice. We must have the courage to take on the greed and power of Wall Street, the drug companies, the insurance companies and the fossil fuel industry.

 

When my presidential campaign came to an end, I pledged to my supporters that the political revolution would continue. And now, more than ever, that must happen. We are the wealthiest nation in the history of the world. When we stand together and don’t let demagogues divide us up by race, gender or national origin, there is nothing we cannot accomplish. We must go forward, not backward.

 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/opinion/bernie-sanders-where-the-democrats-go-from-here.html?smid=tw-nytopinion&smtyp=cur&_r=0

Edited November 12, 2016 by MancMellow

[Eraserhead]

ahahahahaha kakva luzerka bedna

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37963965

Veliki lider. Nije mi jasno to bezanje od odgovornosti.

 

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UNITED STATES: New York Governor orders investigation after softball field was defaced with 'Make America White Again' and swastika

 

Ljudi se samo "bore protiv politicke korektnosti". Divna vremena dolaze.

Edited November 12, 2016 by Eraserhead

[MancMellow]

Veliki lider. Nije mi jasno to bezanje od odgovornosti.

 

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UNITED STATES: New York Governor orders investigation after softball field was defaced with 'Make America White Again' and swastika

 

Ljudi se samo "bore protiv politicke korektnosti". Divna vremena dolaze.

 

To je ono sto je opasno kod Trumpa. Ne (samo) sta on prica ili radi, nego kakvi se ljudi osecaju ohrabreni ili legitimizovani da ispoljavaju svoje "ideje". Zato sam rekao ono sta "viri" iza njega

[Prokleto Djubre]

Apsolutno. Ja da sam crn, veoma bih se brinuo oko svake konfliktne situacije. Murija ni do sada nije brinula mnogo, a sada ce mnogi imati osecaj da je roknuti tako nekoga deo borbe protiv PC-ja. 

[Eraserhead]

To je ono sto je opasno kod Trumpa. Ne (samo) sta on prica ili radi, nego kakvi se ljudi osecaju ohrabreni ili legitimizovani da ispoljavaju svoje "ideje". Zato sam rekao ono sta "viri" iza njega

To ke mozda i najveci problem. Tramp ce verovatno ublaziti retoriku ali to sto se u ovoj "borbi protiv politicke korektnosti" i kuso i repato naslo osokoljeno da svetu saopsti sta misli je veliki problem.

[bradilko]

trampara je deo trenda.ionako se ide ka tom nekom preispitivanju svega i svačega.tu trampara sigurno nije umešao svoje prste

[Weenie Pooh]

ahahahahaha kakva luzerka bedna

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37963965

Veliki lider. Nije mi jasno to bezanje od odgovornosti.

Previše ste strogi vi seksisti, promakao vam je ovaj deo:

 

"There are lots of reasons why an election like this is not successful," Mrs Clinton told the donors on a farewell conference call on Saturday.

 

Znači to je njen private position, a gleda se samo public position (dobro smo se šibali, svaka čast Donaldu).

[Eraserhead]

trampara je deo trenda.ionako se ide ka tom nekom preispitivanju svega i svačega.tu trampara sigurno nije umešao svoje prste

To sto je nesto trend ne znaci da oni koji ga predvode nemaju odgovornost za ono sto se desava.

[MancMellow]

trampara je deo trenda.ionako se ide ka tom nekom preispitivanju svega i svačega.tu trampara sigurno nije umešao svoje prste

 

pa ne, naravno da nije on stvorio trend, samo se okoristio. mislim da stvar nije previse komplikovana kad je u pitanju uzrok, ali je skoro pa neresiva kada je u pitanju reverzibilnost ili cak zaustavljanje trendova koji su stvroili te konkretne uzrok(e). Sve te pozitivne osobine tj tekovine sto se jednim imenom zovu "politicka korektonost" (mada je to za mene licno obicna pristojnost, al nebitno) je povezana bila tokom decenija sa rastom ekonomske srednje klase jer u sustini predstavlja u sirem smislu i njene vrednosti. E sad, kako zaustaviti ekonomski pad srednje klase na sirooookom prostoru koji se mozda prostire i od Kamcatke do Kamcatke je katastrofalno tezak zadatak. 

[MNE]

Veliki lider. Nije mi jasno to bezanje od odgovornosti.

 

Edit:

 

UNITED STATES: New York Governor orders investigation after softball field was defaced with 'Make America White Again' and swastika

 

Ljudi se samo "bore protiv politicke korektnosti". Divna vremena dolaze.

a to nikako nije moglo da bude podmetnuto?! Ono istina je da Trampove pristalice uglavnom nisu šampioni inteligencije ali nisu baš ni nacisti.

[Prospero]

da, ajmo neka nam radna pretpostavka bude da je to zavera...

[MancMellow]

a to nikako nije moglo da bude podmetnuto?! Ono istina je da Trampove pristalice uglavnom nisu šampioni inteligencije ali nisu baš ni nacisti.

 

nisu trumpove pristalice nacisti, nego ima dosta nacista koje su iz svojih razloga podrzavale trumpa i sad se osecaju "slobodnije"