Trump this!

[Gandalf]

 

 

http://time.com/4530568/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-conspiracy/

There is a global elite, with a plan to continue its domination of the American people. Hillary Clinton is one of them, enabled by the press and nefarious elements of the U.S. Government, to promote its globalist agenda. No financial statistics, poll, nor bureaucratic decision is out of its reach, nor are the results at the ballot box. And these powers have the power to elevate women who will lie about his sexual misbehavior.

...

“We’ve seen this first hand in the Wikileaks documents in which Hillary Clinton meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers, her special interest friends, and her donors,” Trump said, mischaracterizing, and in some cases inventing, revelations from the release of the emails.

[Prospero]

Evo vam ga, cerecite

 

(zaboravite na cicku )

 

 

"ovo je nešto što će prenositi i region i svet"

 

yeah

[Eraserhead]

[Gandalf]

[Takeshi]

We established the contact with the Trump campaign through Mr. Vladimir Rajcic, a Serbian American who is close to some aides of Mr. Trump

 

ko bi ocekivao podvalu od ovakvog saradnika 

 

[Lord Protector]

Kad neko pomene neki projekat o Tesli to je znak da nešto nije u redu sa tom osobom, ili je flipnuo ili je prevarant, ili dva u jedan. Tesla je postao dijagnoza, lepak za ludake.

Edited October 14, 2016 by slow

[koksy]

kakvi idioti mamice mila

[Lord Protector]

 

Let's hope Hillary Clinton is lying about Syria and Russia

Hillary Clinton is going to be the next president of the United States.

Don't be distracted by the rubbernecking media, which continues to focus intently on the ways Donald Trump is riling up his base of voters, or the feuds he is having with the leading lawmakers of his own party. This election is all but over. Clinton is going to mop the floor with Trump.

So what will this second Clinton presidency look like? Well, in the weeks leading up to her inevitable coronation, Clinton has been giving us some hints about how she's thinking of foreign policy these days. They are not at all reassuring. Indeed, Clinton's recent statements about Syria and Russia hint at a potentially destabilizing escalation of America's conflict with Vladimir Putin and his cat's paw, Bashar al-Assad.

At the last debate, Clinton articulated a classically Clintonian foreign policy for Syria, disavowing the use of ground troops (except special forces) and praising the use of air power. But the way she defined the terms of the conflict were a little frightening. "There are children suffering in this catastrophic war, largely, I believe, because of Russian aggression," Clinton said, arguing for a no-fly zone.

This is an almost ridiculous idea at this point in the conflict, given that the Assad government and Russia rely on air power to keep the rebels penned in and on the defensive. The idea that America can conduct a no-fly zone over a civil war without taking responsibility for the outcome is an absurdity. It would lead almost immediately to calls for escalation to see the job through to the end.

Clinton also said she supports investigating war crimes committed "by the Syrians and the Russians." One has to hope this is merely rhetorical posturing. You have to actually inflict total defeat on an enemy to get them into war crimes tribunals. These threats are not likely to help Russia get over what amounts to incredible paranoia about Western intervention.

Mark Galeotti, a Russia expert for the European Council on Foreign Relations, writes:

In this state of affairs, Russia starts to see the Syrian civil war not as a discrete conflict, but as a continued campaign where the U.S. is undermining Russia's positions. The Russian view of the past decade of relations with the West may be paranoid and exaggerated, but the U.S. still has to calculate for exactly that worry.

[T]here is a pervasive belief in Russia's security community not only that Russia already is at war — an undeclared, largely covert one — with the West, but that it had been so long before Moscow even realized it. The Arab Spring, the Color Revolutions in other post-Soviet countries, the spread of Western ideas and influences, all come together in a lurid fantasy of a conflict that Moscow must scramble to resist on every front, from the geopolitical to the ideological. [ECFR]

From the Russian perspective, the United States keeps demanding that there be regime change in nations where Russia has vital security assets. To avoid the potential loss of access to a naval base, Putin violated the sovereignty of Ukraine and annexed Crimea. In Syria, Russia is also protecting the regime that grants it naval access to the Mediterranean Sea. Increasingly, Russia is signaling that it is willing to escalate in these minor conflicts faster than America because Moscow sees its most basic interests threatened.

 

That is exactly what Russia has done in Aleppo to halt the momentum of the rebels. Average Russians may not care a great deal about Donbass or Syria, but Russian policy makers care a lot, and they know that support in the U.S. for continued intervention in Syria has its limits. Although America had been covertly intervening in the Syrian civil war for some time, America's overt intervention in Syria did not get support from Congress in 2013, mostly because it was wildly unpopular with the public.

And that is what is so nerve-wracking about the way that Clinton has now begun redefining America's mission in Syria once again. At first, Obama went over the top of public opinion to avenge American honor against ISIS. Slowly, America's mission has crept to include some form of regime change with the ouster of Assad. Now Clinton is selling the American people on greater military interventions so that the U.S. can challenge Putin.

Clinton seems unable to distinguish between what is of vital interest to the Russians and peripheral interest to America. She combines this with her bias toward always taking action — of any sort, for good or ill. The combination is dangerous. And it makes the Republicans' inability to field someone capable of challenging her intelligently on these terms even more egregious.

My sincere hope is that she is just lying about her intentions with Russia and Syria.

 

 

Edited October 14, 2016 by slow

[Ravanelli]

Bilo ovo?

https://youtu.be/6DOYnsmvP6Q

[Anduril]

^^

Tekst sasvim ispravno podvlaci tzv paranoju Kremlja. Pitanje je odakle ona dolazi i da li bi popustljivost Zapada mogla da je smanji...

Tu mu je odgovor pogresan jer ne vidi da sistem u Kremlju i na Zapadu jednostavno nisu kompatibilni jedan pored drugog. Something has to give...

[Weenie Pooh]

Tu mu je odgovor pogresan jer ne vidi da sistem u Kremlju i na Zapadu jednostavno nisu kompatibilni jedan pored drugog. Something has to give...

 

Mda. Oprobani "they hate our way of life and everything we stand for" argument kojim može da se preemptivno opravda bilo kakva kaubojština. 

 

Naravno da HRC laže i zvecka oružjem jer je u sred predsedničke kampanje, naravno da nije luda i da ne očekuje suđenja Rusima za ratne zločine. Opet, u ovim poznim godinama sigurno je odavno internalizovala čuvenu potrebu da akcijom dokazuje svetu da nije slabašna žena - sasvim je moguće da planira značajno više direktnih intervencija i podsmešljivo gleda na premekanog Dronebamu. 

[Anduril]

Naprotiv - intervencionisticki pristup bi bio pogresan i rizican. Vise sam mislio na neizbeznost Cold War 2.0 scenarija. 

Tu se prosto radi o sukobu koji je slican sukobu monarhija i republika krajem 18. i pocetkom 19. veka.

 

Uspon Putin-friendly populista  na Zapadu koji bi da se obracunaju sa postojecim sistemom to jasno pokazuje.

Oba sistema vide onaj drugi kao smrtnu opasnost za aktuelni unutrasnji politicki poredak i obe strane su u pravu. 

 

Da se nalaze na razlicitim kontinentima to ne bi bio tako veliki problem ali posto im se uz to sfere uticaja poklapaju u najmanje tri zapaljiva regiona, hronican sukob je neizbezan. Plus, svi su deo jednog sireg kulturnog i civilizacijskog kruga pa zato uticu na unutrasnje prilike u jos mnogo vecoj meri nego ranije.

Edited October 14, 2016 by Anduril

[Takeshi]

babini kazu govori bankarima su bili pre dve godine. al im zato tramparini tajni snimci od pre deset jesu aktuelni  

 

Clinton aides tried to soften blow of paid Wall Street speeches
...

HRC did a paid speech in NYC for Deutsche Bank

 

 

 

[frn1782]

Pitanje jel se baba i pojavi na 1/10 tih predavanja gde siri svoju mudrost.

Kad bi svako mogao da pere pare tako transparentno gde bi kraj bio nasim biznismenima, eh.

[stajebrebilo]

Ima li na netu transkripata tih govora, volim da citam mudrosti ucenih ljudi... ?

 

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