Budja Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 predictor za šta? do tih pollova posle konvencija proći će gomila vremena. convention bump je poznat u pollingu, ali ko zna šta će da se desi od sad do nekog polla tamo krajem avgusta, u tom smislu ništa ne znače. Kao sto rekoh, polovi u maju/junu jesu pouzdan indikator glasanja u oktobru. Da na trazim sad citate, bilo je reci o tome ranije.
theanswer Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Kao sto rekoh, polovi u maju/junu jesu pouzdan indikator glasanja u oktobru. Da na trazim sad citate, bilo je reci o tome ranije. u oktobru možda ali u novembru teško :) Edited June 16, 2016 by theanswer
WTF Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Lepo ga prikazao onomad Trevor Noah na TDS kao tipicnog africkog diktatora. Kult licnosti, teorije zavere, bombasticne izjave koje se granice sa science fiction, etc... što više gledam šta tramp radi, to mi više liči da mu je ova nominacija midlife crisis projekat Midlife crisis? Covek prekjuce napunio 70 godina.
Weenie Pooh Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Pa šta je 140 za njega? Eno Murdoch garantovano ima bar 120.
hazard Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Trampara sigurno ne planira da gekne pre 150. srecom, samo 8 godina moze biti predsednik
Prospero Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Putler, Cozy Bear i Fancy Bear nameštaju izbore June 16, 2016, 08:05 pm GOP stirs Clinton-Sanders tensions By Harper Neidig The Republican National Committee is promoting a report that accuses the Democratic Party of conspiring to nominate Hillary Clinton in the early days of the presidential primary. In an email, the RNC sent to reporters a story published by the New York Post about a document that purportedly shows the Democratic National Committee was strategizing to make Hillary Clinton president — and not a generic Democratic candidate — in the spring of 2015. The story is based on a document posted on the blog of a user named “Guccifer 2.0,” and appears to be part of a trove of documents stolen from the DNC by Russian government hackers. The alleged memo to the DNC, dated May 26, 2015, says that the party should work to “provide a contrast between the GOP field and HRC.” HRC is a common abbreviation for Hillary Rodham Clinton. Sanders launched his campaign nearly a month prior to the date of the memo — though according to RealClearPolitics, he was still trailing Clinton by nearly 57 points in the polls. It’s unclear whether the document that the hacker claims is from the DNC is a real one. On Thursday night a senior DNC official did tell The Hill that documents were stolen in a breach and suggested they were part of a Russian “disinformation campaign.” “Our experts are confident in their assessment that the Russian government hackers were the actors responsible for the breach detected in April, and we believe that today’s release and the claims around it may be a part of a disinformation campaign by the Russians,” the official said. “We’ve deployed the recommended technology so that today our systems are secure thanks to a swift response to that attack and we will continue to monitor our systems closely.” The RNC sent out the article in an email blast to reporters, highlighting a point in the report that the memo “appears to show the DNC working on behalf of Hillary Clinton from the start of the presidential campaign — just as Bernie Sanders has claimed.” An RNC spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The RNC push comes as Clinton and Sanders are in discussions after the end of the Democratic primary to unify the party. #Guccifer2 Kick @MatthewKick Jun 16 DNC was pushing HRC as candidate from May, 2015 of last year. #Guccifer2 Edited June 17, 2016 by Prospero
Weenie Pooh Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 #Guccifer2 "Our experts are confident in their assessment that the Russian government hackers were the actors responsible for the breach detected in April, and we believe that today’s release and the claims around it may be a part of a disinformation campaign by the Russians,” the official said. Circular logic 101. "U pitanju su bili Rusi, što samo potvrđuje činjenica da dokumente sada poseduje i objavljuje američki haker, jer su mu ih sigurno dali Rusi, jer su u pitanju bili Rusi." Mislim realno, zašto bi bilo ko koristio alijas Феликс Эдмундович ako nije Rus? Sa druge strane, tu je ova tramptastična ideja da Gucifer = Hilari:
Gandalf Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Circular logic 101. "U pitanju su bili Rusi, što samo potvrđuje činjenica da dokumente sada poseduje i objavljuje američki haker, jer su mu ih sigurno dali Rusi, jer su u pitanju bili Rusi." u nekom pdf-u koji sam video, linkovi su na ruskom. kao da je neko koristio AdobeA podešen za ruski. može biti (ruska) omaška, može biti da je onaj koji je pustio dokumentaciju želeo da nabedi Ruse. Edited June 17, 2016 by Gandalf
hazard Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 moze biti i da je neko skinuo krekovanu verziju Akrobata na ruskom jer je to nasao na torentu
Gandalf Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 moze biti i da je neko skinuo krekovanu verziju Akrobata na ruskom jer je to nasao na torentu može biti, mada... dati haker je dovoljno stručan da pribavi ovu dokumentaciju, a nije dovoljno dobar da pribavi piratski softver koji mu odgovara?
Prospero Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Guccifer 2.0 je ruska maskirovka, dam 20 marki u to. “Guccifer” leak of DNC Trump research has a Russian’s fingerprints on itEvidence left behind shows leaker spoke Russian and had affinity for Soviet era.by Dan Goodin - Jun 16, 2016 11:10pm CESTWe still don't know who he is or whether he works for the Russian government, but one thing is for sure: Guccifer 2.0—the nom de guerre of the person claiming he hacked the Democratic National Committee and published hundreds of pages that appeared to prove it—left behind fingerprints implicating a Russian-speaking person with a nostalgia for the country's lost Soviet era. Lone wolf claims responsibility for DNC hack, dumps purported Trump smear file"Guccifer 2.0" publishes hundreds of pages of purported DNC docs. Exhibit A in the case is this document created and later edited in the ubiquitous Microsoft Word format. Metadata left inside the file shows it was last edited by someone using the computer name "Феликс Эдмундович." That means the computer was configured to use the Russian language and that it was connected to a Russian-language keyboard. More intriguing still, "Феликс Эдмундович" is the colloquial name that translates to Felix Dzerzhinsky, the 20th Century Russian statesman who is best known for founding the Soviet secret police. (The metadata also shows that the purported DNC strategy memo was originally created by someone named Warren Flood, which happens to be the name of a LinkedIn user claiming to provide strategy and data analytics services to Democratic candidates.)@PwnAllTheThingsExhibit B is this opposition research document on Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee. Exhibit B is also written in Word. Several of the Web links in it are broken and contain the error message "Error! Hyperlink reference not valid." But in a PDF-formatted copy of the same document published by Gawker a few hours before Guccifer 2.0's post went live, the error messages with roughly the same meaning appear in Russian.Enlarge / The image on the left, with an error message in Russian, shows the document as it appeared on Gawker. The image on the right shows it as it was published directly by Guccifer 2.0.@PwnAllTheThingsThe most likely explanation is that the Russian error messages are an artifact left behind when the leaker converted the Word document into a PDF. That kind of conversion would be expected if the leaker's PC was set up to use Russian.The other piece of evidence is more circumstantial, but it still strengthens the case that the person publishing the documents intentionally or unintentionally left Russian—or at least Eastern European—fingerprints on the leak. It's the use of ")))" in the accompanying blog post. That's a common way people in Eastern Europe and Russia denote a smiley in text. The grammar in the post strongly suggests that English is not the writer's native language, although in fairness, there's nothing indicating that the writer's mother tongue is Russian or even Eastern European. All three pieces of evidence were teased out of the documents and noted on Twitter by an independent security researcher who goes by the handle PwnAllTheThings. The theory is also consistent with everything previously published by CrowdStrike, the security firm the DNC hired to investigate its suspicions that its servers had been breached. CrowdStrike researchers said they quickly determined that the servers had been infiltrated by two separate Russian hacking groups. In response to Wednesday's leak, CrowdStrike raised the possibility that the leak was part of a Russian Intelligence disinformation campaign. Company officials declined to comment on Thursday for this post. "There's also the fact that the hacker is publishing documents at all, which rules out lots of nation-states," the PwnAllTheThings researcher told Ars in a private message. "China, for example, would happily spy on the DNC to try and get the Trump oppo [opposition] research to support their foreign policy objectives, but they wouldn't publish the documents to influence the election."A pretty big dealDave Aitel, CEO of Immunity Security, a firm that provides advanced hacking tools to security professionals, agreed with the researcher's theory."I think his analysis is very believable when you look at what CrowdStrike is saying and when you look at what other people are not saying," Aitel told Ars. "You don't have the FBI or DHS coming out and saying: 'Hey we don't think it's Russia.' If it is Russia, a nation state, it's a pretty big deal. Otherwise the FBI would say: 'We're conducting an investigation.' But they're not saying that." Of course, it's still possible that the Russian fingerprints were left intentionally by someone who has no connection to Russia, or by a Russian-speaking person with no connection to the Russian government, or any number of other scenarios. The abundance of plausible competing theories underscores just how hard it is to accurately attribute attacks online and how perilous it is to reach summary conclusions. Readers are once again advised to keep an open mind, and that means recognizing that Wednesday's leak by Guccifer 2.0 is merely consistent with what CrowdStrike has reported. On its own, the leak neither impeaches the veracity of the report nor does it prove it. If the government of Russia or any other country is using hacking in an attempt to influence the outcome of a US presidential election, that's an extremely serious development. But given the house of mirrors surrounding this entire episode, the evidence should be thoroughly investigated before anyone reaches that conclusion.
Weenie Pooh Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Ogromna je razlika između tvrdnje da čovek govori ruski i tvrdnje da je špijun ruskih službi neobično zainteresovanih za internu DNC prepisku
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