Trump this!

[James Marshall]

"Appreciate the congrats"

 

Kakav dar s neba za budalu mu je poslala ova (rahmetli) budala u Orlandu

[Budja]

Ma dobro je sto nije mnogo menjao nego samo malo. Da je mnogo menjao sad bi imali clanove KKK i Nacional-Socijalisticke partije u Kongresu i po drzavnim vladama i parlamentima, i po mnogima na ovom forumu i za to bi on bio kriv.

 

 

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Iskreno, uopste ne kapiram sta si hteo da kazes.

[Budja]

Ja mislim da se potcenjuje njegov transformativni znacaj. Ja recimo mislim da je on Ameriku postavio na put koji joj omogucava da dominaciju iz 20. veka produzi i u 21. Vratio je zemlju sa puta "intervencionistickog zlikovca" GWB na put "bastiona demokratije" kao sto je situacija bila u vreme hladnog rata. TPPom je vrzao za sebe rastuce Azijske ekonomije i iskoristio glupost Kine da pretvori u saveznika cak i Vijetnam. Krenuo da igra kompleksniju igru na bliskom istoku sa Iranom i SA koja omogucava vise opcija. Plus jos par stvari, ali da ne duzim.

 

Domete spoljnopolitickih igara (osim TPPa) cemo tek da vidimo, nema tu nista sto je irreversible.

[iDemo]

Babi se mozda i posreci pa je izaberu al' svejedno nikad nece biti selebriti k'o Tramp...

...

gazio ja onomad, ne? 

[Gandalf]

Domete spoljnopolitickih igara cemo tek da vidimo...

Krenuo da igra kompleksniju igru na bliskom istoku sa Iranom i SA...

And to actively do nothing is a decision as well.

 

Edited June 13, 2016 by Gandalf

[Prospero]

Putler, Cozy Bear i Fancy Bear nameštaju izbore
 
 
 

Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump
By Ellen Nakashima June 14 at 11:30 AM

Russian government hackers penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee and gained access to the entire database of opposition research on GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump, according to committee officials and security experts who responded to the breach.

The intruders so thoroughly compromised the DNC’s system that they also were able to read all email and chat traffic, said DNC officials and the security experts.

 

The intrusion into the DNC was one of several targeting American political organizations. The networks of presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump were also targeted by Russian spies, as were the computers of some GOP political action committees, U.S. officials said. But details on those cases were not available.
A Russian Embassy spokesman said he had no knowledge of such intrusions.

Some of the hackers had access to the DNC network for about a year, but all were expelled over the past weekend in a major computer cleanup campaign, the committee officials and experts said.
The DNC said that no financial, donor or personal information appears to have been accessed or taken, suggesting that the breach was traditional espionage, not the work of criminal hackers.
The intrusions are an example of Russia’s interest in the U.S. political system and its desire to understand the policies, strengths and weaknesses of a potential future president — much as American spies gather similar information on foreign candidates and leaders.

The depth of the penetration reflects the skill and determination of the United States’ top cyber adversary as Russia goes after strategic targets, from the White House and State Department to political campaign organizations.

“It’s the job of every foreign intelligence service to collect intelligence against their adversaries,” said Shawn Henry, president of CrowdStrike, the cyber firm called in to handle the DNC breach and a former head of the FBI’s cyber division. He noted that it is extremely difficult for a civilian organization to protect itself from a skilled and determined state such as Russia.

“We’re perceived as an adversary of Russia,” he said. “Their job when they wake up every day is to gather intelligence against the policies, practices and strategies of the U.S. government. There are a variety of ways. [Hacking] is one of the more valuable because it gives you a treasure trove of information.”

Donald Trump has repeatedly called Vladimir Putin a "strong" leader, but toes a fine line on praising the Russian president. (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)

Russian President Vladimir Putin has spoken favorably about Trump, who has called for better relations with Russia and expressed skepticism about NATO. But unlike Clinton, whom the Russians probably have long had in their spy sights, Trump has not been a politician for very long, so foreign agencies are playing catch-up, analysts say.

“The purpose of such intelligence gathering is to understand the target’s proclivities,” said Robert Deitz, former senior councillor to the CIA director and a former general counsel at the National Security Agency. “Trump’s foreign investments, for example, would be relevant to understanding how he would deal with countries where he has those investments” should he be elected, Deitz said. “They may provide tips for understanding his style of negotiating. In short, this sort of intelligence could be used by Russia, for example, to indicate where it can get away with foreign adventurism.”

Other analysts noted that any dirt dug up in opposition research is likely to be made public anyway. Nonetheless, DNC leadership acted quickly after the intrusion’s discovery to contain the damage.
“The security of our system is critical to our operation and to the confidence of the campaigns and state parties we work with,” said Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), the DNC chairwoman. “When we discovered the intrusion, we treated this like the serious incident it is and reached out to CrowdStrike immediately. Our team moved as quickly as possible to kick out the intruders and secure our network.”

The Clinton campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment. A spokeswoman for the Trump campaign referred questions to the Secret Service.
DNC leaders were tipped to the hack in late April. Chief executive officer Amy Dacey got a call from her operations chief saying that their information technology team had noticed some unusual network activity.
“It’s never a call any executive wants to get, but the IT team knew something was awry,” Dacey said. And they knew it was serious enough that they wanted experts to investigate.
That evening, she spoke with Michael Sussmann, a DNC lawyer who is a partner with Perkins Coie in Washington. Soon after, Sussmann, a former federal prosecutor who handled computer crime cases, called Henry, whom he has known for many years.

Within 24 hours, CrowdStrike had installed software on the DNC’s computers so that it could analyze audit data that could indicate who had gained access, when and how.
The firm identified two separate hacker groups, both working for the Russian government, that had infiltrated the network, said Dmitri Alperovitch, CrowdStrike co-founder and chief technology officer. The firm had analyzed other breaches by both groups over the last two years.

One group, which CrowdStrike had dubbed Cozy Bear, had gained access last summer and was monitoring the DNC’s email and chat communications, Alperovitch said.
The other, which the firm had named Fancy Bear, broke into the network in late April and targeted the opposition research files. It was this breach that set off the alarm. The hackers stole two files, Henry said. And they had access to the computers of the entire research staff — an average of about several dozen on any given day.

The computers contained research going back years on Trump. “It’s a huge job” to dig into the dealings of somebody who has never run for office before, Dacey said.
CrowdStrike is not sure how the hackers got in. The firm suspects they may have targeted DNC employees with “spearphishing” emails. These are communications that appear legitimate — often made to look like they came from a colleague or someone trusted — but that contain links or attachments that when clicked on deploy malicious software that enables a hacker to gain access to a computer. “But we don’t have hard evidence,” Alperovitch said.
The two groups did not appear to be working together, Alperovitch said. Fancy Bear is believed to work for the GRU, or Russia’s military intelligence service, he said. CrowdStrike is less sure of whom Cozy Bear works for but thinks it might be the Federal Security Service or FSB, the country’s powerful security agency, which was once headed by Putin.

The lack of coordination is not unusual, he said. “There’s an amazing adversarial relationship” among the Russian intelligence agencies, Alperovitch said. “We have seen them steal assets from one another, refuse to collaborate. They’re all vying for power, to sell Putin on how good they are.”
The two crews have “superb operational tradecraft,” he said. They often use previously unknown software bugs — known as “zero-day” vulnerabilities — to compromise applications. In the DNC’s case, the hackers constantly switched tactics to maintain a stealthy presence inside the network and used built-in Windows tools so that they didn’t have to resort to malicious code that might trigger alerts. “They flew under the radar,” Alperovitch said.

The two groups have hacked government agencies, tech companies, defense contractors, energy and manufacturing firms, and universities in the United States, Canada and Europe as well as in Asia, he said.
Cozy Bear, for instance, compromised the unclassified email systems of the White House, State Department and Joint Chiefs of Staff in 2014, Alperovitch said.
“This is a sophisticated foreign intelligence service with a lot of time, a lot of resources, and is interested in targeting the U.S. political system,” Henry said. He said the DNC was not engaged in a fair fight. “You’ve got ordinary citizens who are doing hand-to-hand combat with trained military officers,” he said. “And that’s an untenable situation.”

Russia has always been a formidable foe in cyberspace, but in the last two years “there’s been a thousand-fold increase in its espionage campaign against the West,” said Alperovitch, who is also a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council. “They feel under siege.”

Western sanctions, imposed after Russia’s annexation of Crimea in Ukraine, have hurt the economy and led the government to increase its theft of intellectual property to limit the impact of import restrictions, he said. And Russia’s growing isolation has increased the need for intelligence to understand and influence political decisions in other countries, he added.

CrowdStrike is continuing the forensic investigation, DNC lawyer Sussmann said. “But at this time, it appears that no financial information or sensitive employee, donor or voter information was accessed by the Russian attackers,” he said.
The firm has installed special software on every computer and server in the network to detect any efforts by the Russian cyber spies to break in again. “When they get kicked out of the system,” Henry predicted, “they’re going to try to come back in.”

 

[hazard]

demokratama slabo ide s kompjuterima u poslednje vreme

[dragance]

Opa, i Asanz najavio da ce sledece nedelje objaviti podatke o Hilari koja "ne samo da ce postati nemoguce da bude kandidat, vec ce zavrsiti i sa optuznicom".

 

Dajte kokice.

[condor]

HRC se samo bolje snalazi u toj realnosti a Bernijevi se moraju zapitati kako to da promene na efikasniji nacin i uz momentum koji sada vec uveliko imaju.

Имаш неко чудно схватање тог појма, моментума? Берни је своје, бојим се, одсвирао. Направиће још један часни last stand на конвенцији, биће љубазно саслушан и неке од његових "смерница" ће ући у завршни документ. Месец дана након тога нико га се више неће сећати, а bros ће се вратити игрицама...

[Eraserhead]

Opa, i Asanz najavio da ce sledece nedelje objaviti podatke o Hilari koja "ne samo da ce postati nemoguce da bude kandidat, vec ce zavrsiti i sa optuznicom".

 

Dajte kokice.

Asanz kao DJV.

[ObiW]

Kako ono bese, Berni ubedljivo pobedjuje Trampa, Hilari je egal i/ili gubi?

 

Poll: Clinton leads Trump by double digits

 

 

Clinton has 49% support to Trump's 37%, with Libertarian Gary Johnson at 9%, according to the poll of 750 likely voters.

 

 

"Clinton has a number of advantages in this poll, in addition to her lead," pollster J. Ann Selzer, who ran the poll, told Bloomberg. "Her supporters are more enthusiastic than Trump's and more voters overall see her becoming a more appealing candidate than say that for Trump."

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/14/politics/poll-hillary-clinton-leads-donald-trump/index.html?iid=ob_article_footer_expansion

[Anduril]

Имаш неко чудно схватање тог појма, моментума? Берни је своје, бојим се, одсвирао. Направиће још један часни last stand на конвенцији, биће љубазно саслушан и неке од његових "смерница" ће ући у завршни документ. Месец дана након тога нико га се више неће сећати, а bros ће се вратити игрицама...

 

Momentum ce ostati jer ce i problemi ostati. 

Mogu i Tramp i HRC da ne urade nista po pitanju nejednakosti itd., ali, moze recimo onda Demokratama da se dogodi na izborima za Kongres da Berni/Warren i drustvo okupe/osvoje znacajniji broj mesta oko tog jednog problema. Nesto kao sto je Tea Party radio na drugoj strani dok stranka ne pukne...it's a long game.

A onda, kad se pojavi neki levi populista (za sadasnje americke standarde), neki novi FDR sa Nju Dil programom, sve je moguce...

[Ariel]

Kako ono bese, Berni ubedljivo pobedjuje Trampa, Hilari je egal i/ili gubi?

 

Poll: Clinton leads Trump by double digits

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/14/politics/poll-hillary-clinton-leads-donald-trump/index.html?iid=ob_article_footer_expansion

 

750 uzorak? Lol. Ali dobro, i dalje stoji da će Hilari da dobije Tramparu, biće gusto ali nije frka.

[condor]

Momentum ce ostati jer ce i problemi ostati. 

Mogu i Tramp i HRC da ne urade nista po pitanju nejednakosti itd., ali, moze recimo onda Demokratama da se dogodi na izborima za Kongres da Berni/Warren i drustvo okupe/osvoje znacajniji broj mesta oko tog jednog problema. Nesto kao sto je Tea Party radio na drugoj strani dok stranka ne pukne...it's a long game.

A onda, kad se pojavi neki levi populista (za sadasnje americke standarde), neki novi FDR sa Nju Dil programom, sve je moguce...

Добро, ту се већ слажемо. Само што то није Бернијев моментум, већ моментум кризе. Он то разрешење о ком говориш неће ни доживети.

[theanswer]

750 uzorak? Lol. Ali dobro, i dalje stoji da će Hilari da dobije Tramparu, biće gusto ali nije frka.

 

uzorak je ok ali problemi su sledeći

 

1. svako ko misli da će neko dobiti izbore sa 10p razlike je totalni kreten

2. jedan nacionalni poll koji odudara od ostalih koji pokazuju manje od 5 ne znači ama baš ništa

3. nacionalni pollovi u ovom periodu generalno ne znače ništa

4. sačekao bih bar da vidimo kako će orlando imati uticaj na pollove