Mađarski zid: izbeglice sa Bliskog istoka i iz Afrike u Srbiji i regionu

[Pontijak]

Kakva bre apokalipsa, vazda na svetu ovako bilo. Neko pije whiskey uz TV i gleda sta je njegova vlada zamesila za njegovo dobro, neko drugi drzi na kolenu jednogodisnju bebu pored bare od mokrace.

 

Nije to od juce, oduvek je tako.

 

Kada sam spomenuo entrtejment koji tek dolazi, mislio sam na novembarski pejsaz gledan iz tople sobe.

 

a tek da nam ne bi bilo dosadno, bice i ovoga

 

Prema rečima Lize Heger, portparola nemačkog ministarstva unutrašnjih poslova, čak 200.000 državljana Srbije nalazi se u Nemačkoj bez odgovarajuće dozvole za boravak, ili su tražili azil za koji, kako kaže, nemaju šanse da ga dobiju, tako da svima njima preti deportovanje u Srbiju.

Heger je, za današnju ''Politiku'', navela i da je ''do maja ove godine 1.311 Srba poslato nazad u Srbiju, i da je po tom pitanju saradnja Srbije i Nemačke veoma dobra.

 

I ministar unutrašnjih poslova Nemačke Tomas de Mezijer ranije je rekao da je neprihvatljivo to što je 40 odsto tražilaca azila u Nemačkoj sa Balkana.

 

On je naveo da će oni morati da napuste Nemačku koja je postala glavna destinacija za tražioce azila koji beže od rata i progona, ali da zahtevi izbeglica iz ''zemalja jugoistočne Evrope, uključujući Albaniju, Srbiju i Kosovo gde nema oružanih sukoba nemaju šanse da budu pozitivno rešeni''.

 

kako bilo, prihvatni centri nece ostati prazni, jos samo da gospodar™ prezentuje™ maketu™ prihvatnog centra, pa da dodje neka kintica iz eu za te prihvatne centre, pa da privilegovani botovi spinuju ali ne za sendvic i sokic nego za nesto otmenije tipa dijagonala™ + lokalni rad uz naknadu na resavanju problema™, ih miline, desetak godina sigurnog, lepog ali humanog™ posla

 

a do daljeg da citamo vesti o toleranciji i humanosti™

 

 

MKD: Suzavcem na migrante, povređen policajac

Makedonska policija ispalila je suzavac kako bi rasterala na hiljade migranata i izbeglica koji kod Đevđelije pokušavaju da iz Grčke pređu u Makedoniju.

 

Jedan migrant je nožem ubo policajca. Svedoci kažu da je policajac ranjen kada je tim makedonske specijalne policije prišao da migrantima kontroliše dokumenta.

Edited August 21, 2015 by Pontijak

[Kreator]

Makedonska vojska/policija ispalili suzavce prema migrantima. Izgleda da su bas spremni da im ne dozvole da udju. Nekako mi sada logicno deluje pitanje delije67, zasto ne idu ka igumenici pa odatle trajektom za bari? Brze bi stigli i nema 3 granice koje moraju da prodju..?

[Caligula]

 

a tek da nam ne bi bilo dosadno, bice i ovoga

 

 

 

Meni to jos uvek nije dovoljno kataklizmicno, gledao Dan Nezavisnosti onomad, e to je katakliizma

[anomander rejk]

Evo linka:

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2015&mm=08&dd=21&nav_category=167&nav_id=1029523

[Pontijak]

Meni to jos uvek nije dovoljno kataklizmicno, gledao Dan Nezavisnosti onomad, e to je katakliizma

 

izgleda da uvek postoji mogucnost promene programa

 

PREŠEVO - Tokom prošle noći na graničnom prelazu Preševo iz Makedonije u Srbiju je ušlo samo desetak migranata.

"Zbog blokade migranata da iz Grčke uđu Makedoniju, na Preševu je noćas bilo neverovatno mirno. Posle ponoći na ovom graničnom prelazu u Srbiju je ušlo desetak migranata, i to uglavnom iz Sirije. Sve do noćas ovde je granicu prelazilo i do 2.000 ljudi. Oni su odmah zbrinuti u prihvatnom centru u Preševu", priča naš izvor sa graničnog prelaza Preševo.

 

 

SUL - U sukobima između policije i izbeglica u Sulu, u centralnoj Nemačkoj, povređeno je 17 osoba, među kojima šest policajaca, saopšteno je danas iz policije. Prema rečima portparola lokalne policije, jedan Avganistanac, koji boravi u prenatrpanom centru za izbeglice pocepao je nekoliko stranica iz Kurana što je izazvalo bes dvadesetak, uglavnom sirijskih izbeglica. Čovek je pobegao u prostorije pripadnika službe bezbednosti u centru i policija je intervenisala da spreči napadače da uđu u prostorije.

 

 

Sukobi su izbili između policajaca i oko 50 izbeglica, naoružanih metalnim šipkama i kamenjem. U incidentima koji su trajali nekoliko časova povređeno je najmanje 17 osoba, od kojih šest pripadnika policije, a oštećeno je i šest policijskih vozila. Izbeglički centar u Sulu je bivša kasarna graničara, gde je smešteno 1.700 izbeglica, a kapacitet je 1.200.

 

Edited August 21, 2015 by Pontijak

[Tresko]

Ma kojih 200.000 gradjana Srbije u Nemačkoj. Ima ih najmanje 2 miliona, a možda i 20 miliona.

[Ryan Franco]

Kakva bre apokalipsa, vazda na svetu ovako bilo. Neko pije whiskey uz TV i gleda sta je njegova vlada zamesila za njegovo dobro, neko drugi drzi na kolenu jednogodisnju bebu pored bare od mokrace.

I kome tacno pokusavas da nabijes to na nos?

[Prospero]

A far-right activist holds Czech national flag during an anti-immigrants rally | Getty

 

 

Prague springs to intolerance

The Czech Republic is rife with xenophobia — with hardly any foreigners.

 

By JAN ČULÍK

8/21/15, 5:32 AM CET

 

The Czech Republic, a country that regards itself as intrinsically democratic and tolerant, is in the grips of a strong wave of anti-refugee and anti-Islamic hysteria. Motivated by fear of the unknown and fanned by openly racist media, the darkening mood has encouraged surprisingly extreme discourse on social networks like Facebook.

A certain amount of fear is perhaps understandable. After the deportation of a large German minority from Czechoslovakia in 1945 and after 40 years of communism, Central European countries such as the Czech Republic, Slovakia or Hungary are highly homogeneous and predominantly white. Historically, the Czechs and the Slovaks defined their nationality in terms of language, meaning that if you did not speak Czech or Slovak you were an alien, not to be accepted or trusted.

Xenophobia and racism tend to be strongest where people have never met foreigners or persons of another skin color. But the intensity of the venom directed at immigrants — of whom there are very few in the Czech Republic — in public discourse is staggering.

The Czech Republic recently decided to accept 15 sick Syrian children for treatment in Czech hospitals. Remarkably, in an Internet poll attached to a newspaper article reporting on the story, 83 percent of readers disagreed with the decision.

Those few dozen refugees who occasionally stray onto Czech territory while trying to reach Germany are now being rounded by up Czech police, handcuffed, and incarcerated in immigrant detention centers in Bělá pod Bezdězem and Vyšní Lhoty. Their money and mobile telephones are systematically confiscated.

Several hundred refugees are currently being held, and in a recent riot, many demanded that they be released and allowed to continue their journey to Germany, where they have relatives. The Czech government maintains that it has the right to arrest them and send them back to the first European country by which they originally entered the EU. This usually means Greece or Italy, countries that can hardly cope with an overwhelming influx of refugees and desperately need other EU countries to take on some of the burden.

 

In a promising development, a Czech court decreed that the government has no legal basis for imprisoning and holding refugees, and released an Iranian refugee and his family from incarceration. But the Czech Home Office does not regard the Iranian case as a precedent and continues to detain the remaining refugees, although a few have been released in the past few days and allowed to continue to Germany. A handful of members of pro-immigration NGOs recently demonstrated in Bělá in support of the refugees. Some refugees in Bělá complain that they are not being given sufficient food in the detention center and are undernourished.

In a TV interview with the widely read tabloid newspaper Blesk, Czech President Miloš Zeman told refugees that if they did not like the Czech Republic’s handling of their situation, they should leave: “No one has invited you,” he said. Paradoxically, to leave is exactly what these refugees would like to — but cannot — do. Zeman expressed satisfaction that riot police was mobilized against the refugees in Bělá, advocating that more force be used against them.

 

Basic instinct

“Some people might regard what I am saying as an appeal to the basest human instincts, but it is the same attitude as that of the Hungarians and of the British Prime Minister David Cameron,” he added. Zeman was elected President in a direct election two and a half years ago on what, at the time, seemed like a left-wing ticket, but has recently started to make increasingly populist, authoritarian and right-wing statements.

On August 17, several hundred Czech academics made a public appeal, demanding that politicians and the media drop the current anti-immigration discourse. Jiří Ovčáček, the spokesperson of President Zeman, rejected the appeal as divisive and elitist.

Commentators have pointed out that the current anti-refugee hysteria is a symptom of a major change of values in the post-communist Czech Republic over the past two years or so. While in the 1990s or 2000s life in the Czech Republic was not perfect, the country was at least pretending that it was aiming to become a Western democracy. Corruption may have been a problem, but it was more or less hidden and whenever it came into the open, it created a scandal.

The situation seems to have changed. The media are no longer bothered by scandalous behavior and politicians flaunt political positions they would have been ashamed of in the past. It is perhaps not surprising in a country where the finance minister’s post is held by Andrej Babiš, one of the most powerful Czech oligarchs, who owns two national newspapers and whose private business receives contracts from his own Ministry. Similar indifference now seems to apply to issues like racism. The phenomenon was succinctly summed up in a recent cartoon: In 2013, a beer-bellied “ordinary Czech” would have said, “I am not a racist, but…” and then he would badmouth non-whites; in 2015, the same “ordinary Czech” says, “I am a racist. So what?”

 

…The current fear and loathing directed at foreigners and refugees is remarkable, in particular since there are only a few hundred refugees in the Czech Republic.

 

Social media and the internet have greatly contributed to the legitimization of views that, until recently, would have been regarded as intolerable. A young woman’s recent post on Facebook — in language that would be considered to be from the extreme fringe in other Western countries — is typical of the new national mood: “Our peculiar ethno-cultural microcosm is very precious to us and we mean to protect it jealously. Our grandfathers paid for it with their blood, and we’re sure as hell not going to share it with uninvited guests. After all, our historical experience teaches us that only enemies come uninvited. Kindly mind your own business and stop meddling with our affairs, maybe?”

 

“Invaders”

In the same vein, much intolerance also been aired by a highly popular Czech language website Parlamentní listy (“Parliamentary Newsletter” — the name is a misnomer, the website has nothing to do with Czech Parliament, it is a purely commercial venture). The site prides itself on being “absolutely open to all views,” but its editorial policy is based on a confrontation of emotional, extreme, usually unsubstantiated, often paranoid opinions.

The website has 600,000 individual readers per month and politicians kowtow to it. Its business model is based on whipping up the emotions of a frustrated contingent of the Czech public, and it publishes widely read-articles likening refugees to “invaders.”

Statements that all refugees and “darkies” should be executed, drowned or sent to gas chambers are regular features on the debating fora of major Czech newspapers and on Facebook. When a boat near the Libyan shore capsized last week and more than 200 refugees drowned, one of the Czech readers reacted by commenting: “Swim harder, darkie. See whether you can reach Europe.” Isolated verbal and physical attacks on dark-skinned people or on people wearing headscarves have also taken place.

Activists led by Martin Konvička, a lecturer at the University of South Bohemia in České Budějovice, have founded an organization called “We do not want Islam in the Czech Republic” and presented an anti-immigration petition signed by 140,000 people to the Czech Parliament in June. Konvička and his followers argue that Islam is a criminal, murderous “ideology” that should be outlawed. In an interview, President Zeman publicly agreed with Konvička, who has now turned his organization into a political party called “The Anti-Islamic Bloc” and plans to run in the upcoming elections.

In a widely watched video interview, Czech TV interviewer Martin Veselvoský confronted Konvička about a number of highly inflammatory statements he had made on Facebook, including a call for “concentration camps” for Muslims. Konvička was evasive and said that these statements were “only made on Facebook.”

Last month, Konvička’s activists and other extreme-right-wingers staged an anti-refugee demonstration in Prague to which they brought gallows and nooses and threatened the “pro-refugee” government and liberal citizens. No one has been charged for this: The Czech police carried out an assessment and said that bringing gallows and nooses to a demonstration does not constitute a criminal offence. Most Czechs do not speak foreign languages and thus cannot compare what the local media tells them with what is really going on abroad. Nevertheless, even in this context, the current fear and loathing directed at foreigners and refugees is remarkable, in particular since there are only a few hundred refugees in the Czech Republic and most of those who make it across the border do not even want to stay.

 

Jan Čulík works as Senior Lecturer in Czech Studies at the University of Glasgow. He is also the editor-in-chief of the Czech-language cultural and political internet daily Britské listy (blisty.cz).

 

[Caligula]

Mnogo si negativan Mekkejbe, projektujes se.

 

Zasto bi bilo kome bilo sta nabijao na nos, pa nije ovo Bela Kuca ili Kremlj, ne donosimo mi odluke te prema tome ne snosimo odgovornost. Samo pricamo jbt, neko ispadne u pravu u proceni, neko promasi fudbal, ni manje ni vise.

 

Bice toga jos. MIslim, masenja fudbala i ispravnih procena

 

btw. evo ti gore Evropsko prolece.

Edited August 21, 2015 by Caligula

[borris_]

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[Muwan]

Ništa ovo neće suštinski promeniti. Ako migranti ne budu mogli legalno da uđu u Makedoniju radiće to ilegalno pa će trgovina ljudima tamo procvetati (ako već i nije). Ako baš nikako ne bude išlo pokušaće preko Bugarske (Blagoevgrad i Ćustendil) da dođu do Srbije. Doduše taj put ide kroz one bugarske planinčine, biće horor ako ne budu mogli brzo da prođu taj deo.

[Pontijak]

evo ti gore Evropsko prolece.

 

zar dobri vojnik svejk tako?

[MancMellow]

 

 

Those few dozen refugees who occasionally stray onto Czech territory while trying to reach Germany are now being rounded by up Czech police, handcuffed, and incarcerated in immigrant detention centers in Bělá pod Bezdězem and Vyšní Lhoty. Their money and mobile telephones are systematically confiscated.

 

 

Široka slovenska duša. Koja se prilično sužava ako nisu u pitanju neki drugi Sloveni. A ponekad čak i tada. 

[Time Crisis]

 

The media are no longer bothered by scandalous behavior and politicians flaunt political positions they would have been ashamed of in the past. It is perhaps not surprising in a country where the finance minister’s post is held by Andrej Babiš, one of the most powerful Czech oligarchs, who owns two national newspapers and whose private business receives contracts from his own Ministry.

 

Što ovo nešto poznato

[Muwan]

Jbt odakle im pravo da im konfiskuju novac i lične stvari? To je čisto hapšenje i kršenje boga oca konvencija na koje su se obavezali potpisivanjem raznih povelja i svojim članstvom u Najhumanijoj, Najprosperitetnijoj, Najprivlačnijoj i Jedinoj Mogućoj Od Svih Političkih Tvorevina Koje Postoje Ili Će Ikada Postojati.