Krampa Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) 400-500 ljudi je poginulo u Madridu, 57-58 u Londonu, od slicnih glava bez aposlutno ikakve politicke pozadine. Ovakvih skupova nije bilo. Da li su ti napadi bili manje napadi na evropske vrednosti? Skup kao skup je normalan, dobrodosao, izraz solidarnosti, samo, kako rekoh, bio bi primereniji vigil sa svecama. Skup svetskih drzavnika smatram degutantnim, narocito Bibija i Abasa koji jedne druge proglasavaju teroristima. jedan pametan francuz napisao "drustvo spektakla"... Edited January 12, 2015 by Krampa Link to comment
Gandalf Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Daniel Wickham @DanielWickham93 1) King Abdullah of Jordan, which last year sentenced a Palestinian journalist to 15 years in prison with hard labour 2) Prime Minister of Davutoglu of Turkey, which imprisons more journalists than any other country in the world 3) Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel, whose forced killed 7 journalists in Gaza last yr (second highest after Syria) 4) Foreign Minister Shoukry of Egypt, which as well as AJ staff has detained journalist Shawkan for around 500 days 5) Foreign Minister Lavrov of Russia, which last year jailed a journalist for "insulting a government servant" ... 21) Saudi ambassador to France. The Saudis publicly flogged blogger for "insulting Islam" on Friday Edited January 12, 2015 by Gandalf Link to comment
Meazza Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 ne razumem poentu... jevreji su krivi? more mrš E stvarno svasta. Link to comment
steins Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 erm..... Inspektor zadužen za istragu masakra u redakciji magazina Šarli ebdo Erlik Fredu izvršio je samoubistvo, javljaju svetski mediji. Link to comment
J-♣ Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 eto jedan "bingo" za kontruktore raznih teorija Link to comment
steins Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 eto jedan "bingo" za kontruktore raznih teorija Link to comment
Krošek Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 deder objasni razliku između ovih termina (uzrok vs. povod) uzrok ljudskog dela je uvek i samo u coveku, dakle u svesti i volji slobodnog agenta. svako odgovara za svoje postupke (posto je i njihov uzrok, inace ne bi imalo smisla). ne moze zrtva biti uzrok zlocinu, osim u nekom bizarnom spletu okolnosti da je zlocinac neuracunljiv a zrtva prouzrokovala tu uracunljivost s namerom da postane zrtva. ova dvojica nisu bili neuracunljivi. povod je legitimacija. npr, casus belli. odgovor na pitanje s kojim razlogom/pravom si nesto napravio. imati povod ne znaci da moras i da napravis to, austrougarska je mogla i da ne objavi rat. uzrok je s druge strane determinisuci i neraskidivo povezan s posledicom. na primer covek ne moze reci da postoji uzrok necega sto ce on tek da napravi, to je oksimoron ali mozes reci da imas povod za nesto u buducnosti. pricati o uzroku ovde je isto kao da pricamo da je zena u mini suknji uzrokovala svoje silovanje. Link to comment
Krampa Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 eto jedan "bingo" za kontruktore raznih teorija upravo. ne samo za konstruktore vec sa ove ALI likove. "jeste to zlocin islamskih fundametalista, ALI..." "sloboda govora, ALI.." mrsupickumaterinu Link to comment
barrcode Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The leader of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, threatened Radio Echo of Moscow after it ran a poll, asking its listeners whether media, in reaction to Wednesday’s murders of the Charlie Hebdo journalists, should publish cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad. A majority of Echo’s listeners, 68 percent, said “yes,” the cartoons should be published and 30 percent said “no.” Less than an hour later, Kadyrov posted on Twitter that that Echo’s editor-in-chief, Aleksei Venediktov, had insulted Muslims and said, “There are those who will bring Venediktov to account.” Link to comment
Caligula Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) erm..... Inspektor zadužen za istragu masakra u redakciji magazina Šarli ebdo Erlik Fredu izvršio je samoubistvo, javljaju svetski mediji. ... jos u cetvrtak se ubio, koliko sam razumeo. Sto se teorija zavere tice, upravo se otvorila jedna crna rupa za spekulisanje. Edited January 12, 2015 by Caligula Link to comment
Caligula Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) meni se ne čini tako. redakcija je najbolje moguće odabrana meta da pukotina u ledu krene da se širi. svaka druga meta bi delovala koheziono. Ok, ima logike. Ukoliko se ove majmunolike ubice uopste rukovode logikom. btw. 9/11 je i Bela Kuca (uz Pentagon) bila jedna od meta, a to je mnogo ozbiljnije planiran i izveden napad. Edited January 12, 2015 by Caligula Link to comment
hazard Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 400-500 ljudi je poginulo u Madridu, 57-58 u Londonu, od slicnih glava bez aposlutno ikakve politicke pozadine. Ovakvih skupova nije bilo. Da li su ti napadi bili manje napadi na evropske vrednosti? Skup kao skup je normalan, dobrodosao, izraz solidarnosti, samo, kako rekoh, bio bi primereniji vigil sa svecama. Skup svetskih drzavnika smatram degutantnim, narocito Bibija i Abasa koji jedne druge proglasavaju teroristima. Jebiga, ovo je vreme kada su svi oni nabrojani od strane Gandalfa u frci zbog Islamske države...Al Kaida koja je imala čini se daleko manje ovozemaljskih pretenzija na bliskom istoku i ,,samo" je vodila sveti rat protiv mrskog Zapada postavljajući bombe po metroima i vozovima daleko manje je svrbela Abase, Abdule, i ostale. Link to comment
Tsai Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Počelo je iluminaćenje sve u 16 povodom ovog samoubistva. Dokoni ljudi Link to comment
radisa Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 A i svedok tvrdi da je napadač imao plave oči. Na slikama ubijenih jasno se vidi da su crnooki. Video ja kod master teoretičara zavera, Davida Ickea, još u subotu. Link to comment
iDemo Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Daniel Wickham @DanielWickham93 1) King Abdullah of Jordan, which last year sentenced a Palestinian journalist to 15 years in prison with hard labour 2) Prime Minister of Davutoglu of Turkey, which imprisons more journalists than any other country in the world 3) Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel, whose forced killed 7 journalists in Gaza last yr (second highest after Syria) 4) Foreign Minister Shoukry of Egypt, which as well as AJ staff has detained journalist Shawkan for around 500 days 5) Foreign Minister Lavrov of Russia, which last year jailed a journalist for "insulting a government servant" ... 21) Saudi ambassador to France. The Saudis publicly flogged blogger for "insulting Islam" on Friday Ovo boldovano nije tacno. KIna je prva na ovom spisku: http://cpj.org/imprisoned/2014.php Link to comment
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