Evroazijska Unija - to je ta Evropa kojoj težimo!

[Filozof manijak]

Ovo su najžešća previranja do sada u Belorusiji, od kako je Lukašenko zajahao vlast?

[levi]

17 minutes ago, Hamlet Strašni said:

Lukašenka su i Rusi otpisali. Ne bi me čudilo da uskoro postane prijatelj zapada i bude proglašen za žrtvu ruske agresije. 

 

dosta dobar opis političke scene u Srbiji  u jednoj rečenici, kad ovako rezonuješ ti koji si ceo život u nekoj kao proevropskoj prozapadnoj stranci

[Hamlet Strašni]

Si čuo za državu koja se zove Crna Gora?

[levi]

1 hour ago, Hamlet Strašni said:

Si čuo za državu koja se zove Crna Gora?

 

razumem, ali opet bih očekivao drukčiji senzibilitet od vas, ali ok to su samo moja očekivanja

 

kad reče Crna Gora, npr bilo bi mi logično da ste vi bili naš DPS, bilo bi bolje za sve. mada nije vam bilo lako, ne kažem.. i za to malo što ste pokušali da okrenete zemlju ka zapadu, platili ste visoku cenu. jbg

[Hamlet Strašni]

Ja nisam ovde portparol nego privatno

pričam. Mogu da budem i ja ciničan,

razočaran i tako to...

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United Nations - Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights

Belarus must stop attacking peaceful protesters, UN human rights experts say

GENEVA (13 August 2020) – UN human rights experts* today strongly criticised Belarus for police violence against peaceful protesters and journalists and large scale detention following a controversial presidential election, and called on the international community to put pressure on Belarus to stop attacking its own citizens.

"We are outraged by the police violence towards peaceful protesters and journalists," the UN experts said. "The security forces do not seem to seek dialogue with the protesters or allow them to exercise their right to freedom of peaceful assembly." Video footage have also shown anti-riot police and men in plain clothes indiscriminately beating passers-by, including minors and voluntary paramedics.

Rather than seeking dialogue to end the post-election crisis, the experts said, "the authorities only seem interested in quickly dispersing the protests and arresting as many people as possible." At least 6,700 people have been detained despite the fact that the demonstrations have largely been peaceful. The experts expressed concern that many of the detained have reportedly been beaten or otherwise mistreated during detention.

The response of the security forces to peaceful protests has been very harsh, with frequent use of excessive, unnecessary and indiscriminate force. Some 300 people have been injured, and two deaths have been reported. The actual toll might be higher, since the whereabouts of dozens of people apprehended by the police remain unknown.

The protests were sparked by credible reports of systematic irregularities and violations of international electoral standards which marred the presidential elections.

"Under no circumstances should anybody be physically harmed or criminally detained for peacefully taking part in a protest," said the UN experts.

They also expressed alarm that freedom of expression has been vastly curtailed. At least 50 journalists, bloggers, human rights defenders and activists have been detained and harassed in recent weeks, and several are facing criminal investigations for allegedly inciting public unrest. On the day of the election and in the following days Internet access was partially or entirely restricted throughout the country. Internet disruptions have put Belarusians in an information vacuum, while many social media and news websites were completely blocked. "The shutdown clearly has a political purpose: to suppress the right of people in Belarus to access information and to communicate at a time of rising protest. The measure is inherently disproportionate and incompatible with the freedom of expression", said the experts.

Citizens of Belarus cannot fully exercise their right to directly and indirectly participate in political and public life if they cannot exercise other human rights, such as those to peaceful assembly and association, freedom of expression and opinion and the right to information, the experts said.

"The Government of Belarus has been impervious to all calls – including our own – to stop crackdowns on peaceful protesters," they said.

"We call on the international community to strengthen pressure on the Government of Belarus to stop violently attacking its own citizens who are exercising their fundamental rights," they said. "We call for full respect of human rights and for accountability for violence against protesters."

*THE EXPERTS: Mr. Clément Nyaletsossi Voule is the Special Rapporteur on the right to peaceful assembly and association; Ms. Anaïs Marin, Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in Belarus; Ms. Mary Lawlor, Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights defenders; Ms. Irene Khan, Special Rapporteur on the freedom of opinion and expression, Ms. Agnès Callamard, Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions.

The Special Rapporteurs, Independent Experts and Working Groups are part of what is known as the Special Proceduresof the Human Rights Council. Special Procedures, the largest body of independent experts in the UN Human Rights system, is the general name of the Council's independent fact-finding and monitoring mechanisms that address either specific country situations or thematic issues in all parts of the world. Special Procedures experts work on a voluntary basis; they are not UN staff and do not receive a salary for their work. They are independent from any government or organization and serve in their individual capacity.

https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=26164&LangID=E

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Mass Beatings, Detentions in Belarus as President Clings to Power

Firsthand accounts tell of packed cells, horrific conditions and constant screams of agony, as protests continued for a fifth day. Dozens of journalists have been detained.

By Ivan Nechepurenko and Anton Troianovski
Aug. 13, 2020, 8:20 a.m. ET

MINSK, Belarus — Accounts of violent beatings of protesters and brutal mass detentions mounted in Belarus on Thursday as the country’s embattled president, Aleksandr G. Lukashenko, deployed brute force to cling to power.

Widespread protests against Mr. Lukashenko, an authoritarian who has ruled for 26 years, have gripped the Eastern European country ever since he claimed victory Sunday in a presidential election that his opponents and international governments widely saw as fraudulent.

The protests were initially largely peaceful, but riot police and military forces responded with stun grenades and rubber bullets, and could be seen pummeling unarmed protesters with their boots and batons. Dozens of journalists were among the thousands detained; those who were released reported fierce beatings and horrific conditions in overcrowded detention centers.

The scene outside a pretrial detention center in Minsk on Thursday was one of desperation and grief. Hundreds of people gathered, as they had for much of the week, looking for loved ones. On Wednesday, they had swarmed a departing ambulance, seeking scraps of news.

“We had 18 people in a cell designed for just four,” said Aleksandra V. Yurova, 31, who was detained after polls closed on Sunday. She described her cell as a room of about 90 square feet with a table in the middle and a toilet that did not flush. There was only one bottle of water to be refilled and used by all the inmates.

“The conditions were just horrible,” she said.

After one night in that cell, Ms. Yurova was released, most likely because she had a small child, she said. Her partner was detained as well, and she had not heard from him since. On Wednesday, she came to the jail to find out what happened to him.

“I don’t want to live here anymore,” Ms. Yurova said, describing how the experience changed her.

The arrests and violence appeared geared at scaring people off the streets. But protests against Mr. Lukashenko continued in Minsk, the capital, and across the country on Thursday. Footage circulating on social media showed workers walking off the job at the BelAZ truck factory in the city of Zhodzina, a crown jewel of Belarusian industry, chanting the protest movement’s message to Mr. Lukashenko — “Leave!”

Foreign journalists released from detention described scenes of systematic beatings and abuse. The Russian independent news website Znak.com published an account by one of its journalists, Nikita Telizhenko, who said he spent 16 hours detained with scores of others who were forced to lie face down in pools of blood, with some detainees at times lying on top of each other.

“The most brutal beatings were taking place all around: blows, screams, cries could be heard from everywhere,” Mr. Telizhenko wrote. “I had the sense that some of those detained had broken bones — hands, legs, spines — because with the tiniest bit of movement they shouted in pain.”

The beatings continued inside a van when Mr. Telizhenko and others were transferred to a different detention center. He was eventually released after the Russian Embassy interceded on his behalf.

Other correspondents also published harrowing accounts — noting that their status as foreigners and journalists likely spared them the worst abuse. Stanislav Ivashkevich, a correspondent for the Polish-based, Belarus-focused TV channel Belsat, described detention in a three-person prison cell with 12 other people.

“Over the course of two days we were given one loaf of bread for the whole cell,” Mr. Ivashkevich wrote. “At one point we were taken out and forced to run a gauntlet of rubber batons.”

The Belarusian Association of Journalists said it knows of at least 64 cases of journalists being detained since Sunday, and that at least seven have been severely beaten and injured.

One man died in custody, the Belarus authorities said on Wednesday. Michelle Bachelet, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, said more than 6,000 people were believed to have been detained.

Those detained included “bystanders, as well as minors, suggesting a trend of massive arrests in clear violation of international human rights standards,” Ms. Bachelet said in a statement. “Even more disturbing are the reports of ill-treatment during and after detention.”

There were signs that the beatings were part of a systematic effort to put down the protests. Belarus state television on Wednesday showed footage of six young people it said were protesters, their hands tied and their faces bruised and bloody.

“Are we going to do a revolution again?” an off-screen voice asks.

“Never again, ever,” one of those detained responds.

Ivan Nechepurenko reported from Minsk, Belarus. Anton Troianovski reported from Moscow.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/13/world/europe/beatings-detentions-belarus-lukashenko.html

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[Tsai]

[kud u maglu Simoviću]

 

jbn ludak strelja po ulici

[Tresko]

Da se kladimo odakle će da prvo stigne podrška Lukašenku?

[Duhovnost, ljubav i med]

Gore od Lukašenka je mržnja prema Lukašenku. Okej, jeste ružan, jeste društveni eksperimentator sa 50% privrede u državnom vlasništvu. Štrajkovi radnika su legitimni odgovor na krizu ekscentričnog beloruskog sistema. Hoće li mržnja i građanski rat popraviti stvar? Neće, totalni čaušeskuovski scenario bi verujem doveo do rasparčavanja društvenog bogatstva, do pljačke državnih firmi, sa mogućnošću vrlo brzog povratka na autoritarni sistem posle početnog "entuzijazma". Da tamo nešto nije u redu meni je bilo jasno još kada je Luka onomad došao u Srbiju da reklamira njihove čokoladne table. Ja sam rešio da više ne pišem o politici, jer politika generalno stvara mržnju i ostrašćenost, ali pošto je u pitanju "tuđa" zemlja, mogu potpuno neostraščeno da kažem da beloruski režim ne treba mrzeti, treba ga sasvim racionalno pritiskati u smeru ozbiljnih reformi.  

Edited August 14, 2020 by Duhovnost, ljubav i med

[ronin]

[Duhovnost, ljubav i med]

4 minutes ago, ronin said:

 Oukej... Kada neki viši oficir beloruskog KGB-a "mlatne" Lukašenka, sa motivacijom da na mestu fabrike traktora podigne svoj privatni tržni centar, biće jasno da su radnici i narod uzalud plakali, patili i mrzeli... Popravljaj sistem, ne mrzi aktere - to bi trebalo da bude načelo svake normalne politike. Neću ništa više da pišem na ovom forumu, gde ljudi imaju samo dve dominantne emocije, rugalačku  i mrzilačku ... nigde balansa... objavljujem trajni i potpuni štrajk.... Neću više napisati ni reč o bilo čemu ovde. 

[Goranz]

Ne odustaj, na dobrom si putu. Treba poraditi na tome da se promeni svest ljudi, koliko god vremena trebalo za to, a u međuvremenu zemlju može da im vodi i prelazni upravnik, neko sa iskustvom u rukovođenju i obavljanju javnih funkcija... recimo Aleksandar Lukašenko.