Толстый и тонкий

[Zaz_pi]

  Jes to sad nacrto?

 

Ne, nisam ja crtao ali to bi trebala biti nova ruta do Balkana. A, kako onda, zavisi od mnogo stvari.

Edited December 1, 2014 by Zaz_pi

[Roger Sanchez]

Ne, nisam ja crtao ali to bi trebala biti nova ruta do Balkana. A, kako onda, zavisi od mnogo stvari.

kakva nova ruta? sve je to već izgrađeno, ostatak su raznorazni ruski čardaci od magle na prodaju, rezervoar™, čvorište™, druga cijev™

[Ryan Franco]

Jebote, 8 godina traje epopeja o jebenom tužnom toku. Ako ne i više. 

 

Kakva glupost.

[Ryan Franco]

Sad će biti interesantna reakcija Vučićevih portparola.

 

1. Rusija je 100 puta do sada izdala Srbe koji su joj vijekovima bili najbolji prijatelji, ovo je još jedan nož u leđa. Tako se velike sile ponašaju.

2. Ovo ne znači ništa, biće Južnog toka, samo se odlaže za sutra.

3. Tišina, ništa se nije desilo.

4. Evropski masonsko bankarski lobiji kuju zavjeru protiv pravoslavlja, mislite li da je slučajno Papa posjetio Konstantinopolj.

 

 

Sutra se čita Informer.

 

5. Bugar udario da odseče Srbiju od Rusije. 

[Lord Protector]

interview with the British Ambassador to Bulgaria Jonathan Allen

 

http://www.novinite.com/articles/164977/Jonathan+Allen%3A+Bulgaria+Needs+Transparent+Public+Procurement%2C+Predictable+Business+Environment

 

I think it presents a risk to countries like Bulgaria, which are neighbors of Russia across the Black Sea, and which have a lot of Russian influence. I do not think it is a choice for Bulgaria between Russia and the West. I think Bulgaria should be proud of its historical and cultural links with Russia, as well as the connections between the institutions and the academia of the two countries. But if you have a choice between the rules of the international community and the West and the behavior of the government of Russia, then there is only one choice, is there not? And that is democratic values. The best way we can counter that risk is with the takeaway of the leverage that Russia has over us, and the leverage in Bulgaria is energy. Now, if I was to say to the Bulgarian government “Stop depending on Russia tomorrow!”, they could not. So nobody is saying that. What people are saying is, though, that we had a warning in 2009 with the gas dispute with Ukraine. This is no longer a warning, it is a flashing red light, a siren. I think there is a big job to be done for Bulgaria and other countries in terms of diversification. And there are many ways of doing that. First of all, there is energy efficiency. Bulgaria consumes way too much energy. Energy efficiency programs would be excellent because you would both be saving money and making yourself less dependent on Russia. You need to connect to the Southern Gas Corridor. Gas from the Shah Deniz field is coming in 2019. Via a connection to Greece, you could have a lot of gas coming through that pipeline in the future. You could also get gas supplies from Iran, if the sanctions are lifted and if it becomes a proper member of the European community. Even from Cyprus, if they can resolve their problems with Turkey. Besides, there are also the Greek LNG terminals people are talking about. If Bulgaria does not connect to its neighbors, it is never going to benefit from diversified supplies. Gas grid interconnections with neighbors, better compressor stations, all sorts of things need to be done to make Bulgaria able to move energy around. Because that is how you prevent yourself from becoming dependent. And of course there are also the Black Sea opportunities. One company operating at the Black Sea at the moment is a British company and I would like to see the Energy Minister saying “This company is my top priority because I want it producing more gas for Bulgaria because they produce it cheaper than Russia.” There are lots of ways of diversifying, for instance nuclear fuel. The last government signed a deal with Westinghouse to explore finances. We will see whether they come up with a commercially viable financial solution which is acceptable to the current Parliament. Obviously there is logic to not being dependent on Russian fuel.

Edited December 1, 2014 by slow

[dillinger]

 

 

Njima ladno nije ovako bilo jos od Osmanlija, i Hitler i Sovjeti su ih tretirali sa vise postovanja

Edited December 1, 2014 by dillinger

[Zaz_pi]

kakva nova ruta? sve je to već izgrađeno, ostatak su raznorazni ruski čardaci od magle na prodaju, rezervoar™, čvorište™, druga cijev™

 

Ma pusti to, nego je l' vide da Socijalisti pobedise u Moldaviji. Oni bese za savez Evroazijom? Istina, tesko ce formirati vladu jer ce gubitnici iz pro-EU imati par glasova vise u sirokoj koaliciji, mada cudni su putevi balkanske politike i promene tabora. Kako ti to komentarises da su pro-EU stranke izgubile izbore?

[apostata]

 

interview with the British Ambassador to Bulgaria Jonathan Allen

 

http://www.novinite.com/articles/164977/Jonathan+Allen%3A+Bulgaria+Needs+Transparent+Public+Procurement%2C+Predictable+Business+Environment

 

(...)

 

Ala braćo draga!

[Roger Sanchez]

Ma pusti to, nego je l' vide da Socijalisti pobedise u Moldaviji. Oni bese za savez Evroazijom? Istina, tesko ce formirati vladu jer ce gubitnici iz pro-EU imati par glasova vise u sirokoj koaliciji, mada cudni su putevi balkanske politike i promene tabora. Kako ti to komentarises da su pro-EU stranke izgubile izbore?

Izgubile su izbore dobivši apsolutnu većinu u parlamentu? Zanimljivo defin'šeš ''gubitak izbora'', obično je to kad ostaneš u manjini, kao sad socijalisti, ili recmo Toma od 2003 pa nadalje. Ili se on nadobivo izboraaaa....

[Zaz_pi]

 

interview with the British Ambassador to Bulgaria Jonathan Allen

 

http://www.novinite.com/articles/164977/Jonathan+Allen%3A+Bulgaria+Needs+Transparent+Public+Procurement%2C+Predictable+Business+Environment

 

I think it presents a risk to countries like Bulgaria, which are neighbors of Russia across the Black Sea, and which have a lot of Russian influence. I do not think it is a choice for Bulgaria between Russia and the West. I think Bulgaria should be proud of its historical and cultural links with Russia, as well as the connections between the institutions and the academia of the two countries. But if you have a choice between the rules of the international community and the West and the behavior of the government of Russia, then there is only one choice, is there not? And that is democratic values. The best way we can counter that risk is with the takeaway of the leverage that Russia has over us, and the leverage in Bulgaria is energy. Now, if I was to say to the Bulgarian government “Stop depending on Russia tomorrow!”, they could not. So nobody is saying that. What people are saying is, though, that we had a warning in 2009 with the gas dispute with Ukraine. This is no longer a warning, it is a flashing red light, a siren. I think there is a big job to be done for Bulgaria and other countries in terms of diversification. And there are many ways of doing that. First of all, there is energy efficiency. Bulgaria consumes way too much energy. Energy efficiency programs would be excellent because you would both be saving money and making yourself less dependent on Russia. You need to connect to the Southern Gas Corridor. Gas from the Shah Deniz field is coming in 2019. Via a connection to Greece, you could have a lot of gas coming through that pipeline in the future. You could also get gas supplies from Iran, if the sanctions are lifted and if it becomes a proper member of the European community. Even from Cyprus, if they can resolve their problems with Turkey. Besides, there are also the Greek LNG terminals people are talking about. If Bulgaria does not connect to its neighbors, it is never going to benefit from diversified supplies. Gas grid interconnections with neighbors, better compressor stations, all sorts of things need to be done to make Bulgaria able to move energy around. Because that is how you prevent yourself from becoming dependent. And of course there are also the Black Sea opportunities. One company operating at the Black Sea at the moment is a British company and I would like to see the Energy Minister saying “This company is my top priority because I want it producing more gas for Bulgaria because they produce it cheaper than Russia.” There are lots of ways of diversifying, for instance nuclear fuel. The last government signed a deal with Westinghouse to explore finances. We will see whether they come up with a commercially viable financial solution which is acceptable to the current Parliament. Obviously there is logic to not being dependent on Russian fuel.

 

 

 

Nego, je l' su EU svesni da gas iz Kaspijskog basena, ako hoce da zaobidje Rusiju, mora da ide kroz uzak koridor blizu Nagoro-Karabaha i J. Osetije? Mislim, svasta moze da se desi, slucajno odleti granata, slucajna eksplozija...Mislim kada vec oni uvode sankcije i zabranjuju ruske projekte. Postoji mogucnost da Iran udje u pricu, samo mislim da se drugarima u S. Arabiji i Kataru to bas nece dopasti. Sto se vec pokazuje na nekim primerima poput kupovine oruzja za Bahrein i Egipat ili moguca kupovina zitarica sa Krima, plus ajatolasi bas ne veruju suvise zapadu.

[Zaz_pi]

Izgubile su izbore dobivši apsolutnu većinu u parlamentu? Zanimljivo defin'šeš ''gubitak izbora'', obično je to kad ostaneš u manjini, kao sad socijalisti, ili recmo Toma od 2003 pa nadalje. Ili se on nadobivo izboraaaa....

 

Apsolutnu tri stranke sa par glasova iznad 50% u skupstini, tako barem za sada izgleda, ali to se da promeniti jer ce izleda imati manje poslanika nego u prethodnom sazivu, sto je pravo cudo.

Pa kako je moguce da pro-EU stranke budu ispod pro-EUA? Zar ljudi u Moldaviji nisu odusevljeni sa EU izborom? Kako ce i koliko dugo biti formirana vlada ostaje da se vidi jer, ponavljam, cudni su putevi balkanske politike.

[Lord Protector]

 

 

'How Bulgaria’s New Prime Minister Buries South Stream'

November 15, 2014, Saturday // 03:56

 

In an article, entitled “How Bulgaria’s New Prime Minister Buries South Stream” the Russian website slon.ru, the author Maxim Samorukov concludes that the South Stream pipeline project might as well be put on hold, as long as Bulgaria’s PM Boyko Borisov is in power.

“Moscow understands that Bulgaria is the weakest link in the project,” Samorukov writes. “(Victor) Orban, who is always willing to negotiate with whoever suits him best, will be in power in Hungary for a while, the Serbian love for Russia is centuries long, but in Bulgaria the unstable governments fluctuate between close cooperation with Russia and full severance of the agreements, in spite of the multi-billion penalties. But carrying out without Bulgaria is impossible, because in anti-Russian Romania we cannot absolutely no one, while we could get along lovely with Bulgaria's socialists, as they are former communists and communist youth leaders.”

Samorukov notes that Borisov had made the abandoning of the South Stream project one of the mainstays of his election campaign and had previously terminated two other Russian energy projects in Bulgaria – the Belene NPP and the Burgas-Alexandroupoli pipeline – during his first tenure as prime minister.

“Perhaps he would have abandoned South Stream in his first term, but then the reputation of this project was better and the EU did not rule our the benefits of the project,” the author writes. “But now the European leaders think otherwise and Borisov made the termination of South Stream main point in his campaign. According to him, only Moscow's fifth column could support this project and all progressive Bulgarians must support EU's opinion on the matter. And it is not important that due to the crisis in Ukraine the supplies of Russian gas to Bulgaria decreased almost twofold – this is a small sacrifice in the name of European solidarity.

Borisov promised not to discuss the matter (of South Stream) until the EU approves it. Brussels already appreciated this stance and promised to restart the payments to Bulgaria under various EU programmes. It turns out that, only a few days old, the new government managed to regain the trust of the European leaders.”

In conclusion Samorukov notes that even though this was the first occasion in Bulgaria's post-Soviet era that a prime minister gets elected a second time, Borisov was not eternal. “Yet he just became prime minister and has four years ahead. For this time the Bulgarian stretch of South Stream can be forgotten. But he is not going to last forever. We can wait, there's no rush.”

Edited December 1, 2014 by slow

[Roger Sanchez]

Apsolutnu tri stranke sa par glasova iznad 50% u skupstini, tako barem za sada izgleda, ali to se da promeniti jer ce izleda imati manje poslanika nego u prethodnom sazivu, sto je pravo cudo.

Pa kako je moguce da pro-EU stranke budu ispod pro-EUA? Zar ljudi u Moldaviji nisu odusevljeni sa EU izborom? Kako ce i koliko dugo biti formirana vlada ostaje da se vidi jer, ponavljam, cudni su putevi balkanske politike.

M-daa

According to latest results, the three pro-European parties are set to have 57-58 seats in Moldova's 101-seat parliament, while the two pro-Russian opposition parties are expected to hold 43-44 seats, reports say.

Strašno je napeto..

Edited December 1, 2014 by Roger Sanchez

[Zaz_pi]

To manje nego ranije? Neverovatno, zar posle SSP da dobiju manje?! Pa napeto je, kako nije, jos da se sve prebroji, par glasova, gore-dole. Izgleda da EU nekao svuda gubi. Kako ti to objasnjavas?

[Eraserhead]

Danas Rusi samo nizu pobede. Prvo su izbacili Bugare iz JT a sada su i pobedili na izborima u Moldaviji.