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Brad Johnson paid a bribe to tamper with footballs at the Super Bowl
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 21, 2015, 9:15 AM EST

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Former Buccaneers quarterback Brad Johnson has admitted to paying a bribe to have the footballs tampered with before the 2003 Super Bowl.

Johnson, whose Buccaneers beat the Raiders at Super Bowl XXXVII, said he paid $7,500 to some people he did not identify so that they would scuff the balls set to be used in the Super Bowl, making them easier to grip. According to Johnson, there were 100 footballs set aside for the game, and the people he bribed tampered with all 100, to Johnson’s specifications.
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Nije mi jasno kako lopte mogu da budu izduvane i da to ne niko ne primeti na samoj utakmice. 

 

I zasto je to bila prednost za NE, ako je uopste bila?

Lakše se kontroliše prilikom trčanja, mislim da je komplikovanije bacati istu.

Cela priča je tragikomična sa aspekta organizacije NFL, sudije diraju loptu nakon svakog snapa i nijedan nije primetio bilo šta neobično sve do poluvremena. Ili je neko od dečaka koji dodaju lopte izduvao iste ili su (što bi možda bilo verovatnije) Patsi naduvali loptu toplim vazduhom pre merenja da zadovolji standarde lige a onda je pritisak otišao u ledenu noć.Treća opcija je da nije ni bilo adekvatnog merenja već se Trgovčević metodom utvrdilo da je sve u redu i sudije otišle da popiju nešto pred utakmicu. U svakom slučaju, ako je bilo direktnog izduvavanja moralo je da bude urađeno na sidelineu i pred kamerama.

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Lakše se kontroliše prilikom trčanja, mislim da je komplikovanije bacati istu.

Cela priča je tragikomična sa aspekta organizacije NFL, sudije diraju loptu nakon svakog snapa i nijedan nije primetio bilo šta neobično sve do poluvremena. Ili je neko od dečaka koji dodaju lopte izduvao iste ili su (što bi možda bilo verovatnije) Patsi naduvali loptu toplim vazduhom pre merenja da zadovolji standarde lige a onda je pritisak otišao u ledenu noć.Treća opcija je da nije ni bilo adekvatnog merenja već se Trgovčević metodom utvrdilo da je sve u redu i sudije otišle da popiju nešto pred utakmicu. U svakom slučaju, ako je bilo direktnog izduvavanja moralo je da bude urađeno na sidelineu i pred kamerama.

 

Lakše se kontroliše i baca izduvana lopta, a po ovako hladnom vremenu i lakše hvata. Ta lopta je lakša od naduvane po propisu. 

Procedura je da sudije pre početka meča provere sve lopte (mere pritisak) i potpisuju one koje su ispravne. Lopte se posle toga daju dečacima koji ih čiste i čuvaju i dodaju sudijama kad za to dođe potreba. Postoji tačna procedura u kom trenutku se dostavlja nova lopta. 

S druge strane, to ne može da utiče na pobedu, pogotovo ne sa 38 razlike. 

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Moguće, mada se ističe da QBovi vole da igraju sa overinflated loptama. 

Ako ne postoji video snimak da neko ispumpava lopte, onda je najverovatnija opcija da su lopte bile zagrejane i napumpane baš pred merenje... što opet postavlja pitanje da li je naknadno izduvavanje uopšte prekršaj, jer su lopte bile naduvane shodno propisima u trenutku merenja.

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fwiw, u nedelju uopšte nije bilo naročito hladno na Foksborou, mislim oko 8 stepeni.

a internetsi su iskopali neku Brejdijevu izjavu kako on lično više voli manje naduvane lopte (valjda može bolje da ih drži) pa ga zato raduje što kad Gronk spajkuje loptu ova se malo izduva.

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coltsi su se žalili na izduvane lopte patsa još na ligaškoj utakmici, isto tokom neke presečene lopte, kao i sada, i navodno su to upisali u spisak napomena sudijama pre utakmice na šta treba obratiti pažnju.

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^^ brejdijeva izjava je iz 2011, valjda je fer pretpostaviti da pošto čovek voli deflated balls da je tim učinio sve što je mogao da mu to omogući. ako su imali neku šemu (bar na foxborou) cenim da je ovo pre ustaljena praksa nego izuzetak, samo je sada dignuta frka.

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Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers said it's common for NFL referees to take air out of footballs before games.

 

 

Rodgers said he has a "major problem" with how often officials deflate footballs. The New England Patriots were accused of deflating their footballs for the AFC championship game Sunday, something the NFL is investigating.
Rodgers would like to see stricter standards enforced, especially against flatter footballs.
"They have a set range they like them at," Rodgers said Tuesday on his ESPN Milwaukee radio show. "I always like to be on the high range because of my grip pressure. I just have a hard time throwing a flat football. The majority of the quarterbacks – I would say more than half – are on the other side of the spectrum and like it on the flatter side.
"My belief is that there should be a minimum air pressure requirement, but not a maximum."
NFL rules stipulate footballs used during games must be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces. Rodgers said quarterbacks have "no advantage" throwing a heavily inflated football.
In fact, he said, it's more challenging for quarterbacks with smaller hands or a weaker grip. For them, a flatter football is beneficial.
Rodgers doesn't want to penalize quarterbacks with smaller hands or weaker grips, he said. But when officials deflate footballs before "every game," Rodgers believes it puts him at a disadvantage.
"My biggest problem," Rodgers said, "is I don't think you should be allowed to take air out of the footballs, because it's not an advantage when you have a football that's inflated more than the average, whatever air pressure they want. It's a preference."
Peyton Manning was important for relaxing rules regulating which can of footballs could be used in the game. Before, quarterbacks were forced to throw brand-new football during games, something they universally opposed.
Rodgers appreciates the flexibility quarterbacks have to prep their own footballs for games. To him, it's better than throwing a brand-new ball.
"That's why the change was made," Rodgers said, "and Peyton was big on helping all the quarterbacks out with that. If they're going to let us prep them the way they want them, I don't believe they should let us take air out of the footballs."

 

 

 

 

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pazite stats:
 

Seattle Seahawks Quarterback is 10-0 Against Quarterbacks That Have Won the Super Bowl

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After beating Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers in the NFC Championship, Wilson improved his record to 10-0 against quarterbacks who have won the Super Bowl. The next best record in NFL history is Bradshaw’s 11-3 (.786 win percentage). Among active quarterbacks, Brady is second best (15-8, .652).

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In 10 games against Super Bowl-winning quarterbacks, Wilson has registered 160 completions in 256 pass attempts for 2,078 yards, with twice as many touchdowns (16) as interceptions while also rushing for 375 yards. His 95.8 passer rating is almost exactly Brady’s career mark (95.9).

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tičeru omatorio si: ^_^

 

Da vam prekinem smislenu raspravu o aktuelnoj temi za većinu nebitnim :lol: ali i neporvrđenim infom da će Fat Rex preuzeti Billse. DC Thurman verovatno ide u paketu, navodno se juri OC 49ersa Roman.

Roknuću se ako dovede Sanchise-a :(

biće dobar rex u billsima, daleko od svetala ny, gde nije mogao da odoli da izigrava klovna pred novinarima.

Odbranu i DCa neka ne dira, neka malo tvikuje mučenog Manuela i bože pomozi :D

što pre organizacija prizna sebi da manuel nije rešenje to bolje po organizaciju...

Nemamo RD1 picka ove godine, ali imamo dosta novca ispod cap-a. FA ekipa je krš, jedino da mamimo nekoga poput Cutlera.

 

Greg Roman je OC, Thurman is Jetsa je novi DC.

 

2 glavna pitanja su OLine (mislim da će gađati nekog OGa kroz FA plus neki pik) i QB. Sada imamo samo Manueal i Tuela, tj nemamo QBa :D. Ne znamkoga mogu juriti kroz FA. Cutler verovatno otpada jer je iz Bearsa došao novi OL coach s kojim je on bio u sukobu. Možda Bradford (ne znam kakav mu je ugovor sada), možda i Foles jer se špekuliše da će Chip da pojuri za Mariotom na draftu. A možda dovedu nekog levog veterana da drži vodu po potrebi.

 

Za odbranu je realno pitanje glavne postavke (4-3 ili 3-4) ii uloge J. Hughesa koji je igrao odlično zadnje 2 sezone i treba da mu se produži ugovor.

 

Što se tiče konkretno Rexa mislim da donosi 1 "attitude" i pristup igri koji je bolno falio Billsima. Dalje od toga zavisi šta će Roman da uradi sa OL i ground & pound pristupom jer je Fredex već mator da bude every down RB a Spiller nije za trčanje kroz teklove koliko za skrin pasove i korišćenje slobodnog prostora. Fali nam RB poput Gore-a.

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