Sirija

[Pontijak]

^^^kako ko, ima nas svakakvih. neki su npr isli obuceni u crveno i lozili se da su clanovi sekti.

 

 

Kenja, te dve stvari nemaju veze jedna sa drugom, i neću ih ni potvrditi ni demantovati 

Sirija, tema je Sirija.

 

[Pečorin]

Je l ovo iritantno nervozno ponavljanje ,,alahu akbar" u svakom videu zapravo nešto kao ,,bože pomozi" i ,,hvala bože što sam živ", tj. neko korišćenje te fraze protiv uroka?

 

Znam šta znači bukvalno, al sam navikao da ga čujem u nekim drugim kontekstima, pa zato pitam.

 

moze posluziti za klasifikaciju pobunjenika, prema broju tekbira po minutu snimka. na primer:

 

do 20 - umerena opozicija, odn FSA, dakle zapad, demokratija, mekdonalds i gej parade

od 20 do 40 - Nusra, Islamski Front i drugari, nisu bas umereni ali mogli bi da budu, zavisi kako za koga i za koje potrebe

vise od 40 - ISIS, kalifat, Dzihad Dzon, zgranutost, not real islam

[Malvo]

verovatno nije važno, ali bode mi oči: šta mu na mapi dođe onaj isisov džep jugozapadno od homsa, tačno na granici sa libanom (dakle, na teritoriji hezbolaha?) - da li drže neki grad ili šta?

Edited October 8, 2015 by Malvo

[Tribun_Populi]

Очигледно мисле да им не прети опасност у свој језеру.

 

Naravno. Sve što naleti je ionako uglavnom u dometu S-300 PMU i aviona iz VB u Jermeniji.

 

U principu, (pre)naoružavanje klasa lakih brodova je saglasno ruskoj vojnoj doktrini oduvek, no, ipak je malo previše nakačiti krstareće projektile na korvetice deplasmana 1.000 tona.

 

Zato i mislim da je u pitanju demonstracija sile na bliskom istoku (uuuja, nišanimo vas!) i reklama za potencijalni izvoz, jer zapad tako nešto (jako naoružane lake brodove) uopšte nema u ponudi.

[Prospero]

Cruise Missile Strikes in Syria: Russia's Big Ad Campaign?

 

While the roughly 1,900-ton displacement Project 1166.1 Gepard-class frigate Dagestan led the Russian cruise missile strike, the rest of Moscow’s fleet consisted of tiny 950-ton Project 2163.1 Buyan-M-class corvettes. Three of these vessels, Grad Sviyazhsk, Uglich and Veliky Ustyug took part in the attack using long-range Novator 3M-14T Kalibr NK land attack cruise missiles.

 

The Kalibr NK has a range of about 1,500 miles, cruises about 150ft off the surface of the Earth and can hit a target within nine feet of its aim-point with its roughly 1000lbs warhead. The weapon is also purported to have a supersonic terminal phase. The missile is supposedly able to hit speeds of Mach 2.9—but concrete data is hard to come by and it is not certain every variant has that capability. The anti-ship version—called the SS-N-27 Sizzler by NATO—is particularly worrisome because it can pop-up from its usual sea-skimming flight path to drive nearly vertically onto a target, which makes it difficult to intercept.

 

The Kalibr NK affords even the relatively tiny Buyan-M-class corvettes the kind of long-range land attack punch usually only found on much larger warships. In fact, the Buyan-M’s eight Kalibr missiles give it a heavier long-range punch than the U.S. Navy’s now-retired Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate and certainly much more firepower than either version of the service’s Littoral Combat Ships (LCS)—the surface warfare module for which is currently lacking anti-ship missile or any meaningful land-attack capability (it was designed to hunt small boats). A follow-on frigate version of the LCS will have more long-range firepower—but it’s not clear what its armament will look like.

 

In fact, the only operational U.S. Navy surface combatants that pack that kind of firepower are the Arleigh Burke-class destroyers and Ticonderoga-class missile cruisers—which are, of course, much larger and many times more expensive. Those ships carry the Tomahawk land attack cruise missile but only some of them are equipped with the shorter-range Harpoon anti-ship missile. But even with that armament, in recent years, it has become clear that the U.S. Navy has underinvested in anti-ship missiles. The result is that American warships are dangerously “out-sticked” by Russian and Chinese vessels. The U.S. Navy expects to address the problem with the Offensive Anti-Surface Warfare (OASuW)/Increment 2 anti-ship missile while the Tomahawk will also eventually be replaced with a next-generation cruise missile. 

 

Why the Russians chose to use the Caspian Sea flotilla to launch the attack is unclear. Another mystery is why the lake-based fleet packs so much long-range land attack firepower—who were the Russians expecting to fight? Many will point out that the Project 1164 Atlant Slava-class missile cruiser Moskva is sitting off the Syrian coast along with a number of other vessels. Superficially, Moskva is a more logical choice for attacking Syrian-based targets. But the while the massive 11,000-ton cruiser possesses formidable anti-ship and anti-aircraft capabilities with its sixteen P-500 Bazalt [X] long-range anti-ship missiles and battery of sixty-four S-300 surface-to-air missiles, it does not have much in the way of land-attack capability. The Soviets designed the Slava-class cruisers to attack American aircraft carrier battle groups out in the open ocean rather than to strike land targets (However, the other vessels in Moskva’s task force might be equipped with land-attack cruise missiles). So the Caspian Sea flotilla might have been the closest assets with the right weapons for the job at hand.

 

While Russia might or might not have had valid military reasons for using the Caspian Sea flotilla against its enemies in Syria, there is an added benefit for Moscow. The cruise missile attack showcases the formidable capabilities of the Kalibr NK—shorter-range versions of which are available for export. Russia also demonstrated that one does not need to own a missile cruiser or destroyer to own a very formidable warship. As this raid amply demonstrated, the Buyan-M offers excellent capability at low cost. The ship is available for export—which buyers who need potent naval capabilities but don’t have a large budget are certain to notice.

[X] Zapravo nose moderniji P-1000 Vulkan ali to je neka druga priča iz štreberskog domena. :D

[Eraserhead]

Russian Missiles Aim For Syria, Hit Iran Instead

 

Iranci izgleda vec kupili, samo nisu isporuku dogovorili.

[Bane5]

Skontali smo.

 

mozda jesi, a mozda i nisi, svaki jucerasni komentar koji si citirao je bio jasno ironican.

za svakog ko je iole pratio pricu o siriji ironija je isla u pravcu onoga sto je lavrov izjavio (parafraza 'gde vam je ta fsa, javite nam') i sa druge strane na konto necega sto okoreli navijaci za jednu stranu primaju vrlo lako, a to je cesto dejstvo propagande.

Edited October 8, 2015 by Bane5

[Bane5]

 

Russian Missiles Aim For Syria, Hit Iran Instead

 

Iranci izgleda vec kupili, samo nisu isporuku dogovorili.

 

 

jebi ga, ispucas 160 miliona dolara i zavalis deo u iran.

da citiram medijske svrsavace ovih dana 'hirurski precizno'.

[Prospero]

Love this spin   
 

The Russian airstrikes on Syria are a sign that U.S. policy is working, a senior State Department official told shocked Syrian-American advocates in a private meeting on Monday.

The “Russians wouldn’t have to help Assad if we didn’t weaken him,” U.S. special envoy for Syria Michael Ratney said, according to multiple participants in the meeting and contemporaneous notes. Russian intervention, he went on to say, is a sign of success for American policy on Syria.

[theanswer]

mozda jesi, a mozda i nisi, svaki jucerasni komentar koji si citirao je bio jasno ironican.

 

 

Ajde

 

jebi ga, ispucas 160 miliona dolara i zavalis deo u iran.

da citiram medijske svrsavace ovih dana 'hirurski precizno'.

 

Koliko košta ono što su Ameri sručili na bolnicu?

Edited October 8, 2015 by theanswer

[Bane5]

Ajde

 

 

Koliko košta ono što su Ameri sručili na bolnicu?

 

nemam pojma koliko kosta, ali nemam pojma ni zasto to mene pitas? kakve ja imam veze sa usa bagrom?

Edited October 8, 2015 by Bane5

[theanswer]

nemam pojma koliko kosta, ali nemam pojma ni zasto to mene pitas? kakve ja imam veze sa usa bagrom?

 

pa vidim da raspolažeš podacima koliko šta košta pa reko da vidim jel znaš možda koliko ono košta.

[Bane5]

pa vidim da raspolažeš podacima koliko šta košta pa reko da vidim jel znaš možda koliko ono košta.

 

ne znam sta da ti kzem, ovo je topik o siriji pa komentarisem ovde pre svega tamosnje dogadjaje. neko je ovde okacio podatke o tome (bio je link) da svaka ova raketa kosta 8 miliona dolara.

sta ti jos treba potrazi sam.

Edited October 8, 2015 by Bane5

[Meazza]

 

The “Russians wouldn’t have to help Assad if we didn’t weaken him,” U.S. special envoy for Syria Michael Ratney said, according to multiple participants in the meeting and contemporaneous notes. Russian intervention, he went on to say, is a sign of success for American policy on Syria.

 

Ne razumem. Bane, jel i ovaj popusio Putinovu propagandu kad govori da su Amerikanci veoma umesani u borbi protiv Asada? 

[Bane5]

Ne razumem. Bane, jel i ovaj popusio Putinovu propagandu kad govori da su Amerikanci veoma umesani u borbi protiv Asada? 

 

ne znam sta je pusio, ali daleko od toga da su oni 'veoma' (mada on nije upotrebio tu rec) umesani u slabljenje asada.

nije li poslednji pokusaj da obuce 5000, pardon 50, pardon 5 boraca 30. divizije bio veoma uspesan?

eto bas tako su pomogli i slabljenje asada, kilavo i mlako.

mozemo da merimo i koliko su krivi za njegov opstanak.