Bane5 Posted February 23, 2014 Posted February 23, 2014 mislim da je ovo cetvrta ili peta rezolucija un o siriji, ali bukvalno prva koja se direktno odnosi na sukob i posledice koje taj sukob ostavlja na stanovnistvo. naizgled pomak u dejstvu un prema siriji ima svoje ogranicennje , iako obavezujuca (kao i sve un rezolucije) ova ne nosi nikakve sankcije u sebi sem dosta grube kvalifikacije da ce se UN nastaviti aktivno baviti ovim problemom.
Prospero Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 nemam pojma da li je tačno, navodno je u zasedi istočno od damaska ubijeno 150-200 pobunjenika: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOc6Wb0xkMs
Roger Sanchez Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 Usto se poklali i Alahovi žuti mravi... The leader of the al-Qaeda-affiliated rebel group in Syria has given rival jihadists an ultimatum to accept arbitration by clerics or be expelled.Abu Mohammed al-Julani of the al-Nusra Front warned the Islamic State of Iraq in the Levant (Isis) that it would be driven from Syria and "even from Iraq" if it did not comply within five days.The threat came after the killing of an al-Qaeda emissary, Abu Khaled al-Suri.He had reportedly been sent to end the clashes between ISIS and other rebels. Ubijen je autobombom, inače...
Bane5 Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 @Roger, po nekoj prici ISIS je spremio cak pet bombasa samoubica da ga ubiju. nusra u nekim delovima sirije vec ratuje protiv ISIS-a na strani ostalih pobunjenickih grupa, a negde se drzala 'po strani'. SOHR navodi da je do sada u sukobu izmedju ISIS-a i ostalih poginulo preko 3000 ljudi. ps. asadove snage i dalje ne napadaju nijedno uporiste ISIS-a niti pokazuju zelju za tim. slucajno?
Budja Posted February 26, 2014 Author Posted February 26, 2014 Nije, ali ne verujem u teoriju zavere. Taktika. Zasto bi ih napadali kada se sami krljaju sa ostalima, naravno da mu nije u interesu ujedinjeni pobunjenicki front.
Bane5 Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 to je razumljivo, ali nisu ih napadali ni kada nisu ratovali sa ostalim pobunjenicima.
Budja Posted February 27, 2014 Author Posted February 27, 2014 Dobro, ne okolisaj, reci sta ti je na umu. To da ih nisu napadali, ajde da vidimo gde je ISIS uzeo vlast i jer je bilo realno da ih napadaju. Nije li glavna optuzba pobunjenika da je ISIS preuzimao vlast u oblastima koje su prethodno zauzete? Nije ISIS bio na prvoj liniji fronta koliko ja kapiramve vise u pozadini.
Bane5 Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 ne postoji zabelezen slucaj napada niti na jedan jedini kamp ili stab ISIS-a od strane asadovog vazduhoplovstva u trenucima kada se sravnjuju kvartovi gradova koje njegove snage ne kontrolisu. primer grada raqqa je idealan. on je centar moci ISIS-a. raqqa je napadana iz vazduha nekoliko puta u trenucima kada su pobunjenici (mahom iz ostalih frakcija) vrsili opsadu lokalne preostale asadove jedinice u blizini grada (kasarna divizije 17). nijedan od tih napada nije bio usmeren na najvecu zgradu u raqqi (jedno od sedista ISISa) niti na zagrade u kojima su smesteni ISIS-ovi borci. grad azaz je visestruko napadan iz vazduha i krstarecim raketama dok su ga kontrolisale ostale pobunjenicke frakcije (desetine mrtvih je ostalo iza tih napada). od kada ga kontrolise ISIS nije zabelezen nijedan jedini napad. mesto Al Bab istocno od Alepa bio je popriste sukoba ISIS-a i ostalih pobunjenickih frakcija. kada su ga drzali 'ostali' zadesilo ga je redovno bombardovanje iz vazduha, kada ga drzi ISIS iz vazduha je siguran. na vise lokacija oko Alepa i u Idlibu se desavalo da u sukobima ISIS-a i "ostalih" asadove snage pomazu napad ili odbranu ISIS-a uz artiljerijske salve, a svako proterivanje ISIS-a obavezno je pratila kazna u vidu bombardovanja tog mesta iz vazduha. na kraju, odnos samoubilackih akcija koje je ISIS ucinio protiv 'ostalih' u odnosu na sve koje je ucinio kada im je, navodno, bio saveznik je zanimljiv. negde se barata cifrom od 6:1. ta disproporcija je drasticna i zbog toga sto je period kada se ISIS smatrao protivnikom asada bio duzi neko period u kojem ratuje protiv 'ostalih'. necu da 'okolisam'. asad je u ISIS-u video namernog ili slucajnog saveznika. nekog koga treba ohrabriti da podriva suprotnu stranu na svaki moci nacin, cuvati ga tako sto ga nece napadati i na kraju pomagati u borbi protiv 'ostalih'. to se nije moglo desiti odjednom, to verovatno traje od pocetka ekspanzije ISIS-a na sveru i istoku Sirije. ja nisam sklon terijama zavere pa necu da direktno povezem stvaranje ISIS-a sa asadom, ali splet 'okolnosti' i cinjenica je isuvise nameran da bi se sve moglo smatrati slucajnoscu - od nacina nakoji je iSIS funkcionisao do danas kada pokusava da odbrani stecene pozicije. ps.jedna od 'optuzbi' stoji i danas, ISIS se mahom sirio tako sto se uvlacio u vec 'oslobodjene' delove i uspostavljao svoju vlast. jako je tesko naci pravi meru da bi se reklo koliko je ISIS direktno ucestvovao u sukobima protiv asada. u nekom procentu jeste, ali mislim da je svakako jako nizak u odnosu na teritotiju koju su zaposeli.
Bane5 Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Tanjug za trogodisnjicu rata u Siriji sasvim korektno (u odnosu na njihov dosadasnji nacin pracenja ovog sukoba) kompiluje tekst iz nekoliko izvora (mahom svetskih agencija): Tri godine sirijskog pakla http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2014&mm=03&dd=12&nav_category=78&nav_id=822625
Roger Sanchez Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan says its armed forces have shot down a Syrian military jet which had violated its airspace. The incident reportedly took place in an area where Syrian rebels and government forces have been fighting for control of a border crossing.
Muwan Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) Yeap, naredna sedmica uoči lokalnih izbora u Turskoj mogla bi doneti svakojaka dešavanja unutar tog pojasa od 30 kilometara koliko ima od granice do grobnice Sulejmana Šaha. Edit: zvanično priopćenje kaže da je turski F-16 oborio sirijskog MiG-23 čim je ovaj povredio vazdušni prostor, u skladu sa konceptom "mrtve straže" koji je Turska uvela prošle godine. Imaju stalne patrole uz granicu a naredjenja su da se odmah otvara vatra. Edited March 23, 2014 by beowl
Bane5 Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 mislim da incident sustinski nije povezan sa turskim izborima vec da samo koincidira. ofanziva pobunjenika na granicni pojas sa turskom odvija se iz njihovih uporista u planinskom zaledju latakije i verovatno nije planirana da se pokrene zbog izbora u turskoj vec najpre zbog toga da se asadove snage maksimalno moguce angazuju svuda gde pobunjenici imaju mogucnost da ih organizovano napadnu da bi se time smanjio pritisak koje asadove snage vrse u nekim drugim delovima sirije (alep, hama i deo uz libansku granicu). takodje, ovo nije prvi avion asadovih snaga koji je turska oborila (bio je najmanje jos jedan ranije). turska je do sada uzvratila vise destina puta na prekogranicnu vatru pa su tako asadove snage vec bile cilj turskih vojnih snaga, ali i ne samo asadove snage vec i ISIS-ove jedinice i jos neke jedinice pobunjenika.
Muwan Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 To ranije je bio sirijski helikopter, a Turska je izgubila jedan F-4 pa su posle toga promenili rules of engagement. Ne znam šta se dešava sa sirijske strane ali u turskoj se šuška da bi svašta moglo da bude u narednih 4-5 dana.
Bane5 Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 sumnjam, ali ostaje da vidimo. meni je od uloge turske zanimljivije (i dalje) kako ce se stvari odvijati na relaciji izrael i sirija tj asad i njegovi saveznici. postoji gotovo javna pretnja da izrael nece tolerisati bilo kakvo gomilanje snaga hezbolaha blizu golanske visoravni. sa druge strane asadu je tesko da ima sigurnu odbranu damaska ako ne bude kontrolisao quineitru pokrajnu koja obuhvata i sirijski deo golana, a u kojoj pobunjenici imaju znacajne snage. u ovom trenutku ozbiljniju koncentraciju snaga bilo gde u siriji asad ne moze da uradi bez hezbolaha i desetina siitskih milicija skupljenih sa raznih strana.
Prospero Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 nije da je više bitno ali ajde: Syria opposition claims has evidence of chlorine gas attackSource: Reuters - Mon, 14 Apr 2014 09:12 AMAuthor: Reuters* Opposition posts video of unexploded "chlorine gas" canister* Both sides blame the other for the attack* Syria has surrendered 65.1 percent of reported chemical weapons - OPCW BEIRUT, April 14 (Reuters) - Syrian opposition activists have posted photographs and video that they say shows an improvised chlorine bomb to back up claims that President Bashar al-Assad's forces used chemical weapons in two attacks last week.Rebels and the government have blamed each other for the alleged poison gas attacks on Friday and Saturday on rebel-held Kfar Zeita village in the central province of Hama, 125 miles(201 km) north of Damascus.Both sides said chlorine gas - a deadly agent widely used in World War I - had been used. The gas, which has industrial uses, is not on a list of chemical weapons that Assad declared to the global chemical weapons watchdog last year for destruction.It is a so-called dual-use chemical, which would have to be declared to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), a spokesman said.State-run television on Saturday accused the al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front of carrying out the attacks, which it said wounded dozens.On Sunday, activists from the "Syrian Revolution in Kfar Zeita" posted video footage and pictures of an unexploded canister with the chemical symbol for chlorine, Cl2, on its side which they said was found in the village.Reuters could not verify the authenticity of the video or pictures.Eliot Higgins, a respected UK-based researcher who trawls daily through online videos of Syria's civil war to verify weapons in them, could not verify the opposition's claims but said the videos did appear to show an industrial chlorine cylinder."It looks like they (the government) have taken an industrial chlorine cylinder, put it in a improvised barrel bomb and dropped it out of a helicopter," he told Reuters.The yellow paint on the cylinder complies with international standards on industrial gas colour codes indicating it contains chlorine, he said.BEHIND SCHEDULEA U.N. inquiry found in December that sarin gas had likely been used in the rebel-held Damascus suburb of Ghouta, where hundreds of people were killed.The inquiry only looked at whether chemical weapons had been used, not who used them. The Syrian government and the opposition have each accused the other of using chemical weapons on several occasions, and both have denied it.The Ghouta attack sparked global outrage and a U.S. threat of military strikes, which was dropped after Assad pledged to destroy his chemical weapons.Syria has destroyed or surrendered 65.1 percent of the 1,300 metric tonnes of chemical weapons it reported possessing but must increase the pace if it is to meet deadlines it agreed to, the global chemical weapons watchdog said on Monday.A 13th shipment was loaded onto cargo ships in the port town of Latakia on Monday to be destroyed abroad, it said.OPCW head Ahmet Uzumcu said while the latest handover was encouraging, "both the frequency and volumes of deliveries have to increase significantly to restore alignment of actual movements against the projected time frame."Syria has until June 30 to completely abandon its program but is running several weeks behind schedule.Syria's three-year civil war has killed more than 150,000 people, a third of them civilians, and caused millions to flee.(Reporting by Oliver Holmes in Beirut and Anthony Deutsch in Amsterdam; Editing by Sonya Hepinstall)
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