Mustafa Kemal'in askerleri

[Prospero]

RTE je pojačao anti-zapadnu retoriku

 

Turkey's Erdogan accuses West of 'supporting coup plotters'

 

Fulya Ozerkan and Stuart Williams•August 2, 2016

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Istanbul (AFP) - President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Tuesday launched his most bitter attack yet on Turkey's Western allies over the July 15 attempted putsch, accusing them of supporting both "terror" and the coup plotters who tried to unseat him.

 

Erdogan, who blames the plot on the US-based preacher Fethullah Gulen, also described the coup as a "scenario written from outside" in an allusion to foreign involvement.

 

Turkey meanwhile issued arrest warrants for about 100 staff, including doctors, at Ankara's main military hospital, and even fired football referees in a new phase of the crackdown after the failed coup that has seen some 18,000 detained and caused international consternation.

 

"Unfortunately, the West is supporting terror and standing by the coup plotters," said Erdogan in a typically combative speech at his presidential palace, denouncing "those who we imagined to be friends".

 

Erdogan lashed out at Germany's judicial authorities for not allowing him to address via video conference a weekend rally in Cologne in his support.

"Bravo! The courts in Germany work very fast!" Erdogan said with heavy irony.

 

He accused Germany of allowing leaders from the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) to address previous events via video conference.

 

The president, who had previously alluded to foreign states' involvement, gave his strongest indication yet that external powers could have played a role.

 

"This coup was not just an event planned from the inside. The actors inside acted out a scenario for a coup written from the outside," Erdogan said.

 

Turning directly on Washington over its hosting of Gulen, he asked: "How can it be, when we are strategic partners... you keep on hiding and sheltering him?"

 

Already strained ties between NATO allies Turkey and the United States have been aggravated by the failed putsch, with some government ministers even alleging Washington could have had a hand in the plot, which US officials firmly reject.

 

Erdogan also rounded on the European Union, saying it had "not yet lived up to its promises" in a deal on reducing the flow of migrants to Europe.

 

 

 

- 'Flee to 3rd country' -

 

Police searched the Gulhane Military Medical Academy (GATA) hospital in the capital and detained some 50 staff including military doctors, the state-run Anadolu news agency reported, quoting police sources.

 

A Turkish official, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed detention warrants had been issued for 98 staff.

 

The official said staff there were suspected of helping fast-track Gulen supporters into the military by giving them favourable medical reports.

Similar claims have also been made about military schools where officials say exams were rigged. Almost half of Turkey's generals were fired in the wake of the coup.

 

This was first time a medical establishment has been targeted in a clampdown under a three-month state of emergency which has also hit journalists and academics.

 

Turkey's football authorities meanwhile fired 94 officials -- including referees and assistant referees -- in the wake of the coup, the football federation said.

 

Police also detained at least 36 people over a sex tape scandal that felled the leader of the main opposition party in 2010, with prosecutors linking the affair to Gulen.

 

Gulen has lived in self-imposed exile in the United States since 1999 and has denied any involvement in the putsch.

 

Turkish authorities stepped up pressure on the United States to extradite Gulen, sending a new package of documents to the American authorities, Justice Minister Bekir Bozdag said.

 

"He needs to be arrested urgently as we have intelligence that he might flee to a third country," Bozdag added.

 

- 'Not my son'-

 

Erdogan snapped at the Italian authorities over an investigation into his eldest son Bilal, who was studying in Bologna, on suspicion of involvement in money laundering.

"Let Italy's judges deal with the mafia, not my son," Erdogan said in an interview with Italian news channel Rai News24, warning the issue could affect relations with Rome.

Turkey has also launched a sweeping overhaul of state institutions, sacking tens of thousands of civil servants and shaking up the military.

 

Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said his government had started "virus and traitor cleansing" to weed out Gulenists from state institutions.

 

The Hurriyet daily said the overhaul would also hit the powerful intelligence service which would be split into separate units for foreign and domestic intelligence, in line with Britain's system where foreign intelligence is handled by MI6 and domestic intelligence by MI5.

Meanwhile, Customs and Commerce Minister Bulent Tufenkci said the overall cost of the coup on the Turkish economy could amount to $100 billion ($89 billion).

 

[Prospero]

Evo ga i K. Bilt:

 

Europe, stand up for Erdoğan

Coups have no place in a region built on democratic values.
By Carl Bildt

8/2/16, 5:21 PM CET
 

Is Brussels asleep, or just ignorant? That’s the question being asked after European leaders responded tepidly to the attempted military coup in Turkey on July 15.

Imagine the rebellious military units had succeeded, and some sort of military-political junta had captured the instruments of state power in Turkey.

I doubt it would have been as easy as when the colonels and their tanks took power in Athens in April 1967, arresting many thousands and starting a nightmare for Greece and Europe that lasted for nearly a decade.

We would have seen major bloodshed on the streets of Ankara and Istanbul as coup forces tried to suppress opposition demonstrations. Think back to the deadly violence that erupted in Cairo in the immediate aftermath of the July 2013 coup.

A successful coup in Turkey would in all probability have engulfed the country in civil war. And the consequences would have been immense.

Millions of Turkish citizens fleeing violence, chaos and death would have joined the more than 2 million Syrian refugees hosted in Turkey in setting sail for Europe. The EU would now be facing a refugee disaster of even larger magnitude than in 2015.

The EU has never witnessed a serious military coup attempt in any of its member or accession countries. In Hungary and elsewhere, challenges to our concept of the rule of law fade in comparison to a fully-fledged attempted coup that occupied TV stations, bombed the parliament and tried to capture the elected President of the country.

The threat was averted, but at the cost of at least 265 lives and 1,100 wounded. Turkey’s political parties were quick to come together to condemn the coup. We can hope that this unique show of solidarity will put democracy in Turkey on more secure footing.

But on the night of the coup, it took some time for the EU to condemn the events. And there was no sign of senior EU representatives afterward flying Turkey in support of an accession country facing the gravest threat to its constitutional order yet.

Instead, Europe’s leaders immediately began to question measures taken by the Turkish authorities to cleanse from power any elements thought to be associated with the Gülen movement.

When Turkey asked for derogation from the European Convention on Human Rights, EU leaders howled with disapproval, forgetting that France did the same after the November terror attacks in Paris. There is no question that Turkey has the right to, and indeed must, take measures to safeguard itself against forces trying to topple its constitutional order.

Nor is there any question that there is a severe risk these measures will go too far. I sincerely hope that the Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights will evaluate the situation very carefully as things start to calm down. Journalists hardly likely to have supported the coup have been arrested, and this must, of course, be criticized.

It is distinctly good news that Council of Europe Secretary General Thorbjørn Jagland is headed to Ankara this week.

Europe risks losing its moral authority if it does not appear particularly engaged in dealing with the coup itself. And there is little doubt that the EU’s rather shameful reaction to the 2013 coup in Egypt has already eroded its position in this regard.

It was indeed telling that, only days after the coup, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s close adviser Ibrahim Kalin responded to Western criticism of the government’s counter-actions by tweeting, “Had the coup succeeded, you would have supported it, like in Egypt. You don’t know this nation but they know you.”

The EU would be in a far better position today if EU leaders had gone to Turkey immediately to express their horror at the coup, congratulate the people of Turkey for defeating it and sit down with the President, the government, the leaders in the Grand National Assembly and others to discuss how to collectively ensure a democratic and European path for Turkey.

Of course, there is no guarantee this would have prevented the country from sliding further toward authoritarianism. But Europe could at least have tried to stand up for its political ideal and democratic values.

Now President Putin may be the first leader to meet with Erdoğan after the coup. If that happens, it will be a disgrace for Europe.

 

[urkozamanje]

a za koga navija rijad?gulen or erdoan?

a katar?

ima li tih gulenovaca u mne?

 

Zvanicno, Katar je rte do koske. Mediji ladno uspevaju da prevazidju sebe (a to je ozbiljan podvig) u kolicini biasa.

 

Plus su turci ovde otvorili prvu bazu na bliskom istoku (ako sam dobro razumeo prvu od raspada otomanskog carstva) pre par meseci. 3000 vojnika.

[bradilko]

Zvanicno, Katar je rte do koske. Mediji ladno uspevaju da prevazidju sebe (a to je ozbiljan podvig) u kolicini biasa.

 

Plus su turci ovde otvorili prvu bazu na bliskom istoku (ako sam dobro razumeo prvu od raspada otomanskog carstva) pre par meseci. 3000 vojnika.

cekaj bre!ti si u kataru?

doha?

[urkozamanje]

Yep

[bradilko]

Yep

[Prospero]

The head of a top European rights watchdog Wednesday backed a “cleaning up” of Turkish institutions after a failed coup blamed on supporters of US-based preacher Fethullah Gülen.

Despite growing concern over the post-coup crackdown, Council of Europe chief Thorbjørn Jagland said there had been insufficient understanding in Europe about the challenges faced by Turkey.

His comments came as President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, in a rare apology, asked forgiveness for having an alliance with Gülen in the early years of his political career.

Almost 26,000 suspects have now been rounded up after the coup, which Ankara blames on followers of Gülen who built up a presence in key institutions including the military. Gülen denies the accusations.

Jagland’s comments accepting the need for a crackdown contrasted with the tone of several EU officials who while condemning the coup have expressed alarm over the scope of the arrests.

“I recognise that of course there is a need for taking on those who were behind this coup and also on this secret network,” Jagland said after talks with Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu in Ankara.

“I would like to say there has been too little understanding from Europe over what challenges this has caused to the democratic and state institutions of Turkey,” said Jagland, referring to Gülen’s group.

“We however have been informed about it for a very long time. So therefore of course we see a need for cleaning up all of this,” added Jagland, one of the most senior European officials to visit Turkey in the wake of the botched July 15 putsch.

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[Geo]

Erdogan 9.avgusta ide u zavnicnu posetu Moskvi ...

[Eraserhead]

Putin (December 2016): "Erdoğan is a man of strong character "

[Prospero]

Brate, ko će dobiti na izborima kad već čitaš izjave iz decembra 2016? :D

[Filozof manijak]

Pa pokazao je karakter, čim je posle svega odlučio da ide Putinu na noge.

[Eraserhead]

Brate, ko će dobiti na izborima kad već čitaš izjave iz decembra 2016? :D

 

Trump :D

[bradilko]

Putin (December 2016): "Erdoğan is a man of strong character "

erdogan je putinova bicharka

ali putin je talentovan politicar.savrseno igra.podrzava usa u borbi protiv terorizmasa kitajcima je ok.sa iranom takodje.sa nemcima dobro.briti se odjebali sami.

..

e moj erezere

[Eraserhead]

erdogan je putinova bicharka

ali putin je talentovan politicar.savrseno igra.podrzava usa u borbi protiv terorizmasa kitajcima je ok.sa iranom takodje.sa nemcima dobro.briti se odjebali sami.

..

e moj erezere

 

Ne zna se na kom planu bolje igra domacem ili inostranom 

[bradilko]

Ne zna se na kom planu bolje igra domacem ili inostranom

pa na inostranom.

evo ti sam si malne podrzao obaranje ruskog avijona svojevremeno a sad se erdoan ogradjuje od toga.nudi se erdy putinu.zar to nije ubavo.najzad ljubav medj dva stara neprijatelja.a tek kako putin ima lepe odnose sa svabovima..

Edited August 5, 2016 by bradilko