Only God Forgives (2013)

[Jimmy Kowalski]

Peter Bradshaw iz Guardiana dao pet zvezda, meni ipak interesantnije kad procitam iskreni rant:

Stink Spreads All OverMovies really don’t get much worse than Nicholas Winding Refn‘s Only God Forgives. It’s a shit macho fantasy — hyperviolent, ethically repulsive, sad, nonsensical, deathly dull, snail-paced, idiotic, possibly woman-hating, visually suffocating, pretentious. I realize I sound like Rex Reed on one of his rants, but trust me, please — this is a defecation by an over-praised, over-indulged director who thinks anything he craps out is worthy of your time. I felt violated, shat upon, sedated, narcotized, appalled and bored stiff.I hate all that cheap Asian macho shit to begin with (seething rage, swords, vengeance, territoriality, kickboxing, bloodlettings) and this rancid fantasy wank pushed all the bad buttons from the get-go. I sat there seething, my teeth grinding. Thank God it lasted only 90 minutes.Effyoueffyoueffyoueffyoueffyou, Refn…eff you and the whole Asian action-porn attitude you rode in on. You’re now a dead man in my book. Dead as Jimmy Hoffa. Drive is still a good film but now I want to trash it somehow. Let’s see…it was also paced like a funeral of an 89 year-old Italian man with too many relatives, and like Only God Forgives it had this fetish about slicing flesh and limbs with sharp knives and swords, and it definitely needed one more fast-car sequence. I can tell you this — I’ll never watch Bronson ever again and I’ll never, ever visit Bangkok, not even with one of Refn’s swords at my neck. I’m even starting to re-think Pusher in the wake of this shite.The Nicholas Winding Refn takedown insurgency starts here. He has played his last macho sadism sword-knife card. Well, I’m sure he hasn’t but if I was the dictator of Hollywood I would shun his ass.I even have this idea that Refn has personal problems. Seriously. Watch this movie and you’ll soon be saying to yourself, “Who the hell is this fucking guy? Is he a monster? A sadism machine? What does he feel? Who or what does he care about?” If I were Refn I would think about submitting to therapy and whatever medications might help in the general effort, but I’m not Refn and he has his own life to live. I only know that Only God Forgives is malignant, odious crap.

Only God Forgives is basically about a gang of Bangkok-based white-guy drug dealers (led by a pair of glaring, psychotic, inarticulate zombie brothers played by Ryan Gosling and Tom Burke) who ignite a tit-for-tate vengeance feud for morally reprehensible reasons and who get their asses handed to them by a sword-wielding Asian cop known on the Wiki page as “the Angel of Vengeance” and played by Vithaya Pansringarm. I was on the cop’s side all the way. Waste those assholes. Take them down. Make them howl and scream and beg for mercy. Up with sword-wielding Asian cops!It starts with Burke, obviously an asshole and some kind of diseased Hannibal Lecter-type psychopath, hiring a pretty teenaged prostitute and then going upstairs with her and carving her up like a turkey. He obviously needs to die painfully. Pansringarm and some other cops show up and survey the scene with Bruke sitting on a bed, and then Pansringarm goads the father of the girl to kill Burke, which he does. And then Pansringarm decides that the father has to be mutilated for urging or allowing his other daughters to become prostitutes, and so he cuts off part of his arm with a sword.My God, what a brilliant beginning for a film! I desperately wanted to see a Godzilla-like serpent crawl out of the Bangkok river and find all these characters and eat them and their clothes.Gosling, naturally, gets it in his head that his brother’s death needs to be avenged, when in fact it needs to be celebrated. Then he has second thoughts when he realizes his brother had slaughtered a teenage prostitute. When he informs his gargoyle mafia-godmother mom, played by Kristin Scott Thomas, that the scenario is “complicated” due to his brother’s crime, KST is unfazed. “I’m sure he had his reasons,” she says. She reveals later on that she always favored Burke because he was ballsier and braver and had a much bigger schlong than Gosling did. And then stone- faced Gosling is shown hanging out with a very pretty prostitute, played by Rathar Phongam, except she offends him greatly in one scene by asking him why he takes so much shit from his mother. He snaps and pushes her against the wall and demands that she take her dress off, which she does. And then he gives it back to her.

It’s rare to find a movie as dedicated as this one to making absolutely no sense.Anyway, one guy gets killed and then another one and then a couple of hit men take out a whole roomful of folks in a cafe in an attempt to hit Pansringarm, and then Pansringarm runs and kills the hitmen with his sword and then he kills Gosling’s top henchman, and then Gosling goes after his family and yaddah yaddah. The basic thrust, as previously noted, is that the cop rules and the white guys are toast.I was repelled by this film in ways I didn’t know I could be repelled before I saw it. Okay, I liked Kirstin Scott Thomas but she isn’t given much in the way of understandable motivation, and she really doesn’t have a lot of great dialogue. NWR just gives her some, just enough. What he’s really in love with is lighting everything with a blood-red tint. And getting Gosling to play a stone-faced asshole.

[3opge]

bs,bs,bs......I even have this idea that Refn has personal problems. Seriously. Watch this movie and you’ll soon be saying to yourself, “Who the hell is this fucking guy? Is he a monster? A sadism machine? What does he feel? Who or what does he care about?” If I were Refn I would think about submitting to therapy and whatever medications might help in the general effort, but I’m not Refn and he has his own life to live....

did somebody say QT?

[Jimmy Kowalski]

Ne voli Wells ni Tarantina, mada posle Djanga nije ovoliko ispizdeo.Nego, ovo me nasmejalo (iz drugog reviewa)

By far the most pertinent scene comes early on when we watch a girl masturbate while Gosling is tied down to a chair. What a wonderful analogy for the entire film.

[3opge]

Ne voli Wells ni Tarantina, mada posle Djanga nije ovoliko ispizdeo.Nego, ovo me nasmejalo (iz drugog reviewa)

ускоро ће поставити и табле по кинима да је мастурбирање на Гослинга забрањено јер тапацирунг на седиштима пропада од влаге. Edited May 22, 2013 by 3opge

[Jimmy Kowalski]

Bez brige. Film ce ici samo u malom broju bioskopa, pa nece biti neke velike stete..

[3opge]

“Only God Forgives” is about Scott Thomas’ demonic, scene-eating performance paired with Gosling’s impassive silence; Smith’s meticulous, almost Ozu-like camerawork paired with the supersaturated night-world colors of Bangkok; and the pulsing, haunting, many-layered electronic score by one-time Red Hot Chili Pepper Cliff Martinez. (One might also mention the sugary-sweet karaoke numbers sung by Pansringarm after some of the worst scenes of violence.) I’m not claiming it’s some misunderstood masterpiece; I’m saying that Refn has coherent artistic goals here and largely meets them. Those goals do not happen to include telling a conventional story or giving the audience what it wants.

[fonTelefon]

Nikolas Winding Refn, nakon svog popularnog Drivea, stigao je na Kroazetu sa filmom Samo Bog oprašta - praznom i pretencioznom stilskom vežbom o nasilju. To je film koji je definitivno podelio publiku, budući da neki u njemu – za razliku od mene – vide virtuozan, radikalan film noir.I u ovom, kao i u Driveu, glavnu ulogu igra Rajan Gosling, ali ovoga puta u ulozi lošeg momka. On upravlja klubom thai-boksa koji mu zapravo služi samo da bi prikrio svoju glavnu aktivnost – trgovinu drogom. U trenutku kada saznaje da mu je stariji brat divljački ubijen, on kreće da se sveti. U egzekuciji te brutalne osvete u pomoć mu pristiže i majka (Kristin Skot Tomas) i tako kreće spirala nepojmljivog nasilja.Refnov film je tanka, neuverljiva, artificijelna priča sastavljena od anegdota i oslobođena svake emocije. Sveden, hladan, krajnje stilizovan, na kraju još pokušava i da ispraznim intelektualisanjem doda dubinu ovoj neuverljivoj priči. Rajan Gosling je neurasteničan, takoreći nem, a Kristin Skot Tomas je mešavina lejdi Magbet i Donatele Versaće. Sve skupa, po meni, razočaravajuće delo, a svakako ne festivalsko. Ali, pogledaćete ga, pa ćete se sami opredeliti – za one koji su zviždali, ili one koji su mu aplaudirali u festivalskoj dvorani.

[3opge]

биће крви...

[Sludge Factory]

http://youtu.be/WGUX7AUH0lg

[kim_philby]

Nikolas Winding Refn, nakon svog popularnog Drivea, stigao je na Kroazetu sa filmom Samo Bog oprašta - praznom i pretencioznom stilskom vežbom o nasilju. To je film koji je definitivno podelio publiku, budući da neki u njemu – za razliku od mene – vide virtuozan, radikalan film noir.I u ovom, kao i u Driveu, glavnu ulogu igra Rajan Gosling, ali ovoga puta u ulozi lošeg momka. On upravlja klubom thai-boksa koji mu zapravo služi samo da bi prikrio svoju glavnu aktivnost – trgovinu drogom. U trenutku kada saznaje da mu je stariji brat divljački ubijen, on kreće da se sveti. U egzekuciji te brutalne osvete u pomoć mu pristiže i majka (Kristin Skot Tomas) i tako kreće spirala nepojmljivog nasilja.Refnov film je tanka, neuverljiva, artificijelna priča sastavljena od anegdota i oslobođena svake emocije. Sveden, hladan, krajnje stilizovan, na kraju još pokušava i da ispraznim intelektualisanjem doda dubinu ovoj neuverljivoj priči. Rajan Gosling je neurasteničan, takoreći nem, a Kristin Skot Tomas je mešavina lejdi Magbet i Donatele Versaće. Sve skupa, po meni, razočaravajuće delo, a svakako ne festivalsko. Ali, pogledaćete ga, pa ćete se sami opredeliti – za one koji su zviždali, ili one koji su mu aplaudirali u festivalskoj dvorani.

duda?

[kim_philby]

btw, da li da citam scenario koji je iscureo?

[Blueberry]

Čitaj, bre! I javi da li u skriptu ima i poneka shemale sa Patpong-a ili se Trenutnonajvećasvetskamuškafilmskazvezdaisexsimboluniverzuma^tm šiba samo s muškim populusom Muai Thai-a.A i taj Refn, tek je nešto malo precenjeniji od 1 Kjubrika, ali to se na ovom forumu uvek lako da ispraviti, iako nažalost nije režirao SLP.

Edited May 24, 2013 by Blueberry

[nisam ja]

uh sve što je ovaj nasro na vr strane sam ja osećao nakon gledanja premotavanja drajva.

[kim_philby]

wanna fight?:Pbtw, evo idem na deciji rodjendan pa da se vidim sa nekim drugarima s kojima nisam dugo pa cu da iscitam scenario.

[kobni zelaya]

Pao je izgleda debakl u Kanu, nikakva nagrada se nije ni očešala o film.