morgana Posted October 17 Posted October 17 upravo, ovo se pitanje tice politike reprezentacije zrtve/zene zrtve, a ne samo konkretne osobe sta god da je odgovor 3
garcia Posted October 17 Posted October 17 redakciju ebdoa čine teške debilčine, ali to mi je bila percepcija i ranije. 2
Svemir Zeka Posted October 17 Posted October 17 27 minutes ago, Filozof manijak said: Lično, ne osećam nikakvu odgovornost. Nisam nikog silovao, niti prikrivao tuđe silovanje. Ako samim žrtvama silovanja ovakav karikaturni prikaz ne smeta, aferim. Tako je. 1
Boksi Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Razmišljam, a da li je, možda, poruka, da smo i mi voajeri ili pasivni učesnici i da ćemo kao i nad celim slučajem da se šokiramo i nad crtežom i neće se promeniti ništa? 1
Leia Posted October 17 Posted October 17 13 minutes ago, Filozof manijak said: Pričamo o kritici francuskog društva, ne? Ja to uz najbolju volju ne vidim na karikaturi Zato ovo ima tu neku dubinu i promišljanje stanja u društvu, wink wink hintovanje na Brižit Makron, kvalitet kao takav, pajz sad - Drogirao je muž, probudila se u predsedničkoj rezidenciji I svi se nasmejaše
Filozof manijak Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Just now, Svemir Zeka said: Tako je. Da sam ja žrtva, itekako bi mi smetalo. 1 1
Svemir Zeka Posted October 17 Posted October 17 14 minutes ago, Hermetico said: Uopšte nije na žrtvama da odlučuju o prikazima medija, nit su one za to sposobne. Ne zato što su žrtve, prosto opušteno mogu da ne umeju da procene uticaj, nit je to njihov posao Kako to misliš? I zašto
Svemir Zeka Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Just now, Filozof manijak said: Da sam ja žrtva, itekako bi mi smetalo. Ali pošto nisi žena žrtva silovanja.... 1
garcia Posted October 17 Posted October 17 58 minutes ago, Svemir Zeka said: Niste svesni šta vam prve komšije rade neće ošišani (et mlohavi) jež da nam podigne awarnes, za nešto sto je već odjeknulo u mejnstrim medijima. trebalo je to ranije ali su bili zauzeti zajebavanjem muhamedanaca.
Moonwalker Posted October 17 Posted October 17 (edited) https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/12/coco-website-pelicot-rape-trial?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other upstanding citizens/s medicina, polcija, vatrogasci, majstori… svi koji na poverenje obavaljaju svoje poslove i dolaze u kontakt sa osobama koje su u osetljivom polozaju. Quote As a court in Avignon has heard Pelicot’s case and allegations against 50 other defendants over the last several weeks, a pattern has emerged of men who lived publicly upstanding lives while allegedly engaging in abhorrent acts online and in private. As the men accused of mass rape have taken the stand, they have detailed how Pelicot found them and coordinated his abuse on an illicit chat forum called Coco. What has emerged during the trial is that the scale of Pelicot’s crimes and his ability to keep them concealed for so many years would seemingly not have been possible without Coco and its administrators’ disregard for the content being shared on the platform. The site has become one of the starkest examples in memory of how platforms can result in extreme harm when left unmoderated. Since its founding in 2003, Coco has been implicated in killings, pedophilia, homophobic attacks and sexual assaults as it evaded accountability and led law enforcement on an international manhunt. When European authorities finally shut down Coco earlier this year and arrested its founder along with other executives, the website had been cited in more than 23,000 reports of criminal activity and more than 480 victims had been involved in judicial proceedings involving the site, according to French prosecutors Quote The Pelicot trial is meanwhile still ongoing as French society grapples with how such acts, committed by men from a variety of ages and backgrounds, could go undetected for so long. It’s a question that advocates against sexual abuse say involves the country reconsidering how these crimes happen, and who perpetrates them. “We are trying to dismantle the idea that these criminals are monsters,” Antoine said. “The Mazan case showed with websites like Coco these people can be your neighbors – even in the smallest town people can connect online and commit these crimes.” Edited October 17 by Moonwalker
Filozof manijak Posted October 17 Posted October 17 1 minute ago, Svemir Zeka said: Ali pošto nisi žena žrtva silovanja.... Da li čini ikakvu razliku što sam muškarac? Nemam pravo na stav zato što sam muškarac, a muškarci su silovatelji? 2
Svemir Zeka Posted October 17 Posted October 17 1 minute ago, garcia said: neće ošišani (et mlohavi) jež da nam podigne awarnes, za nešto sto je već odjeknulo u mejnstrim medijima. trebalo je to ranije ali su bili zauzeti zajebavanjem muhamedanaca. Meni je neverovatno koliko se maši poenta. Jebo Šarli Ebdo. Niko ne reaguje ni na šta.... 1
Svemir Zeka Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Just now, Filozof manijak said: Da li čini ikakvu razliku što sam muškarac? Nemam pravo na stav zato što sam muškarac, a muškarci su silovatelji? Ne, nego ne treba da govoriš u ime žene koja jeste žrtva. 1 1
Filozof manijak Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Meni je neverovatno koliko se stvari ovde učitava. Početna premisa je o (neukusnoj) karikaturi.
Filozof manijak Posted October 17 Posted October 17 1 minute ago, Svemir Zeka said: Ne, nego ne treba da govoriš u ime žene koja jeste žrtva. Lepo sam napisao da govorim u svoje ime. Više puta. 1
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