jms_uk Posted January 17 Posted January 17 18 minutes ago, smooth.Op said: Da li se na ovaj panel misli? Nije to isti tip motora, ovo je IAE V2500 - panel je ceo zadnji deo 1
jms_uk Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Na danasnji dan 2008. godine Quote On 17 January 2008, flight BAW38 crash landed short of the runway at Heathrow Airport following a total loss of power to both engines. Remarkably there were no fatalities, but it remains the most serious commercial aircraft accident in the UK in recent years. The fact that it did not end in tragedy is testament both to how incredibly safe modern aviation has become, and to the training and professionalism of all the individuals involved. But what is it really like to be faced with an unfolding emergency? Can any amount of training equip someone with the skill, confidence, and courage to do what’s needed in the midst of a potential disaster? Hear from two of the controllers in the tower that day about what would be the most memorable, pressurised and emotionally charged few minutes of their lives. Find out how events unfolded and the legacy the incident has had on their lives, careers and wider industry.
Yoyogi Posted February 16 Posted February 16 (edited) Ovaj Thai Airways Airbus A330, sleteo sa piste u Bangkoku, sa leta iz Guangzhou (Gangdzo), Kina, 8 septembar 2013. Niko od 288 putnika i clanova posade nesto povredjen. Preneli su ga u Khorat (Nakhon Ratchasima), kao da su ga doneli sa Surcina u Vranje. Citava mala industrija oko njega, kafici, izlozen aparat, 95% stanovnistva Khorata nije nikada ni videlo avion a kamoli putovalo. Koliko konjskih snaga ima avionski motor? Formula 1 ima 800 ks. Ovaj aparat je imao CF6 General Electric motore, svaki po 32,000 konjskih snaga. Zadesilo se i ovo konjche, bas meni za sliku. Edited February 16 by Yoyogi 1
Radoye Posted February 16 Posted February 16 3 hours ago, Yoyogi said: Koliko konjskih snaga ima avionski motor? Formula 1 ima 800 ks. Ovaj aparat je imao CF6 General Electric motore, svaki po 32,000 konjskih snaga. Zadesilo se i ovo konjche, bas meni za sliku. Snaga mlaznih motora se ne meri u konjskim snagama nego u kg potiska. Korelacija sa KS postoji ali zavisi od brzine kretanja. Ako se avion ne krece motor moze da radi pod punim gasom svejedno razvijace 0 KS.
Yoyogi Posted February 16 Posted February 16 10 minutes ago, Radoye said: Snaga mlaznih motora se ne meri u konjskim snagama nego u kg potiska. Korelacija sa KS postoji ali zavisi od brzine kretanja. Ako se avion ne krece motor moze da radi pod punim gasom svejedno razvijace 0 KS. Dobro, a nije lose ni znati u konjskim snagama.
Radoye Posted February 16 Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, Yoyogi said: Dobro, a nije lose ni znati u konjskim snagama. Nije lose ni znati snagu automobilskog motora u predjenim kilometrima. Otprilike toliko smisla ima i tvoja recenica. Korelacija izmedju kg potiska mlaznih motora i KS kod SUS motora se moze izvesti ali nije direktna. Kad se kaze da SUS motor maksimalno razvija 200 KS to je 200 KS nezavisno da li se vozilo krece, stoji, da li je i koliko natovareno teretom, kakav je specificni otpor vazduha (koeficijenat otpora samog vozila, nadmorska visina / efekat razredjenog vazduha)... Kod mlaznih motora svi ovi faktori uticu na proracun KS. Dok automobil pod punim gasom (tojest: pod idealnim brojem obrtaja) razvija svojih 200 KS nezavisno od toga da li ide 30 ili 300 ili 3000 na sat, da li je prazan ili natovaren 700 t, da li vozi po obali Mrtvog Mora ili po vrhovima Himalaja, mlazni motor moze da bude pod idealnim brojem obrtaja za maksimalni potisak i da proizvodi tacno 0 KS. Ili nekoliko desetina hiljada KS. Dakle ne govorimo o kompatibilnim velicinama kad pricamo o kg potiska i KS. 1
namenski Posted February 16 Posted February 16 17 minutes ago, Radoye said: Snaga mlaznih motora se ne meri u konjskim snagama nego u kg potiska. Korelacija sa KS postoji ali zavisi od brzine kretanja. Ako se avion ne krece motor moze da radi pod punim gasom svejedno razvijace 0 KS. Polako @Radoye, nije tako prosto: snaga tacnije potisak ne mlaznog (inace problematicantm, uslovan izraz, ali bolji u srpskom nemamo, jebiga) nego avionske gasne turbine sto bi bio pravilan izraz na srpskom se zaista meri kilogramima ne snage nego potiska (mada je danas na snazi izrazavanje takozvane snage/potiska u kilonjutnima kN)... I, tu stupa na scenu - tredicija: avionski motor/gasna turbina imao bi i vrteci se i na zemlji, u leru - konjske snage. Ali merene na osovini, inace OK srpski izraz, poznat kao BHP, Brake Horse Power... Gaspard de Prony, taj rad, vremena parnih masina, mocnih lokomotiva, najmocnijih naprava koje je covek napravio - parnih turbina, itd, itd...... SUS motore da ne pominjemo... Ali: taj isti ili slican avionski motor/gasna turbina, smesten u brod ili elektricnu centralu, a toga ima poprilicni, imao bi onoliko konjskih snaga... Na osovini naravno... Ili kad se bas mora kilovata, jebali i kilovati...
Yoyogi Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Ma samo sam hteo da uporedim konjske snage sa avio motorima. A bilo je i jasno to poredjenje.
Radoye Posted February 16 Posted February 16 1 hour ago, namenski said: Polako @Radoye, nije tako prosto: snaga tacnije potisak ne mlaznog (inace problematicantm, uslovan izraz, ali bolji u srpskom nemamo, jebiga) nego avionske gasne turbine sto bi bio pravilan izraz na srpskom se zaista meri kilogramima ne snage nego potiska (mada je danas na snazi izrazavanje takozvane snage/potiska u kilonjutnima kN)... I, tu stupa na scenu - tredicija: avionski motor/gasna turbina imao bi i vrteci se i na zemlji, u leru - konjske snage. Ali merene na osovini, inace OK srpski izraz, poznat kao BHP, Brake Horse Power... Gaspard de Prony, taj rad, vremena parnih masina, mocnih lokomotiva, najmocnijih naprava koje je covek napravio - parnih turbina, itd, itd...... SUS motore da ne pominjemo... Ali: taj isti ili slican avionski motor/gasna turbina, smesten u brod ili elektricnu centralu, a toga ima poprilicni, imao bi onoliko konjskih snaga... Na osovini naravno... Ili kad se bas mora kilovata, jebali i kilovati... Tacno, ako upregnes gasnu turbinu (sto mlazni motori u sustini i jesu) na osovinu da tera da li brod, lokomotivu, tenk, automobil (bilo je i takvih slucajOva ) onda se moze izmeriti osovinska snaga u KS ekvivalentno onoj kod SUS motora. Ali mi ovde pricamo o reaktivnim motorima gde prosta korelacija izmedju potiska i snage ne postoji. Reci "mazni avion ima motor od 32000 KS bez da se to kvalifikuje drugim parametrima je besmisleno - iako bi taj isti motor u nekoj drugoj aplikaciji mogao imati izmerenu snagu u KS (pa mozda bas i 32000). Koliko KS je imala raketa koja je poslala coveka na mesec? Quote A rocket does not produce Horsepower. A horsepower is a unit of “power,” which is the time derivative of work. A rocket does not produce “work” in the normal sense, either. Things like turbine power plants or automobile engines produce “work” in the sense that they “produce” a shaft that is rotating at a given speed and is capable of rotating at that speed while delivering a given torque. The torque and speed of the output shaft are power, which can be rated in horsepower. So, a Saturn V rocket (or any rocket) does not produce either of these things. A rocket produces one thing and one thing only. And that is thrust. Some claim that the rocket produces “work,” at least in a sense, in that the rocket’s current flight velocity, when multiplied by the thrust, evaluates to units of “power.” However, even this is misleading for the following reasons. A turbine-generating power or an automobile engine-generating power produces the same power whether or not the engine itself is moving. For the rocket, the “power” produced (by this definition) when the rocket is being static fired (velocity = zero) is identically equal to zero. Therefore, the “power” that we would compute is a strong function of the rocket’s flight conditions. These flight conditions can be changed arbitrarily, as in the case of a static firing. For this reason, such a definition is not (at least in my experience) considered useful. 1
mlatko Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 17. 1. 2025. at 14:27, zorglub said: Serbian A319 shed large engine panel during climb out of Belgrade Jesu našli deo? Nadleće Dunav na uzlaznoj putanji, barem ovaj ATR danas
mlatko Posted February 16 Posted February 16 (edited) On 17. 1. 2025. at 14:27, zorglub said: Koliko je verovatno da je prikriveno nalazište panela 2x1m pronađeno u nečijem dvorištu? Edited February 16 by mlatko
Radoye Posted February 16 Posted February 16 6 minutes ago, Yoyogi said: Sto si, googlatoru, zagadio topik? Smaracu idi premeravaj tatamije.
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