Tolkien vs. Andric

[Аврам Гојић]

Eto, saznali smo (Sydsvenska Dagbladet) i cudo nevidjeno: da je Tolkina 1961. Nobelov komitet proglasio za drugorazrednog pisca koji ne ume da pripoveda i umesto toga Nagradu dao otmenom hronicaru bosanskih zbitija. Kusturica se spremno slozio mada mu nije najjasnije o cemu se tu radi (kaze da nije gledao filmove), i, generalno, sprema se 1 hajka na Tolkina, eto, nas Andric, niskobudzetni, antiglobalisticki pisac, nadjebao holivudskog pisca koji ne pise nego stvara specijalne efekte.Sta vi mislite?....JRR Tolkien was passed over for the 1961 Nobel literature prize after the storytelling in his Lord of the Rings trilogy was described as second rate.Newly-released documents - declassified after 50 years - show that he was nominated by fellow author CS Lewis.The Nobel prize jury said "the result has not in any way measured up to storytelling of the highest quality".Yugoslav writer Ivo Andric won for the "epic force with which he has traced themes and depicted human destinies"....edit: izvinite sto nema trece opcije, zlatne sredine ili tako necega. postoje trenuci u zivotu kada se covek mora opredeliti. vino ili rakija? zene ili muskarci? psi ili macke? Andric ili Tolkin?edit edit: siguran sam da bi Kud Genijalci imao neku anegdotu za ovaj topic. ko ga jebe kad je spamovao forum

Edited January 8, 2012 by Marko M. Dabovic

[ToniAdams]

sofijin izbor. najozbiljnije.

[Indy]

Citajuci komentare po anglo-medijima, proizilazi da iskljucivo masovno popularni autori koji pisu na engleskom treba da budu razmatrani za Nobelovu nagradu. :fantom:EDIT. Posle previse razmisljanja, glasao sam za Andrica. Prevashodno zato sto je, ovaj, bolji pisac.

Edited January 8, 2012 by Indy

[Vapad]

Ja ću iskreno...Tolkina ne mogu da čitam, smara me, Andrića mogu.

[gospa buba]

Ja ću iskreno...Tolkina ne mogu da čitam, smara me, Andrića mogu.

+1al da me branish ako neko sad nasrne ^_^

[Lynn]

Dakle, nije samo Ćosić zakinut :o

[Weenie Pooh]

....JRR Tolkien was passed over for the 1961 Nobel literature prize after the storytelling in his Lord of the Rings trilogy was described as second rate.The Nobel prize jury said "the result has not in any way measured up to storytelling of the highest quality".

Ja volim LOTR, ali - šta od gorenavedenog nije tačno? Tolkinova proza je... pa, leaves a lot to be desired. Moorcock je to objasnio bolje nego što bih ja ikad umeo u Epic Pooh.Wiki Summary: Moorcock criticises a group of celebrated writers of epic fantasy for children, including Tolkien, C. S. Lewis, and Richard Adams. His criticism is based on two principal grounds: what he sees as the poverty of their writing style, and a political criticism. Moorcock accuses these authors of espousing a form of "corrupted Romance", which he identifies with Anglican Toryism. The defining traits of this attitude are an anti-technological, anti-urban stance which Moorcock sees as ultimately misanthropic, that glorifies a vanishing or vanished rural idyll, and is rooted in middle-class or bourgeois attitudes towards progress and political change.The title arises from Moorcock's argument that the writing of Tolkien, Lewis, Adams and others has a similar purpose to the Winnie-the-Pooh writings of A. A. Milne, another author of whom he disapproves: it is fiction intended to comfort rather than challenge.Writers whom Moorcock cites approvingly, in contrast to his treatment of Tolkien, Lewis and Adams, include Terry Pratchett, Ursula K. Le Guin and Alan Garner.

[Sludge Factory]

Mudro zbori taj Murkok. Glasao za Andrica, jer sam njega citao (i uzivao), a Tolkina nisam jos uvek ni takao, a posle onih pola sata filma koje sam jedva izdrzao, nesto ni nemam zelju. :P

[Phil]

Sramota što je ovo glasanje napeto.

[slepa živana]

ivi andriću je za nobelovu izdvojen roman travnička hronika.

[Indy]

Hm. Malo mi je diskutabilno da li treba da glasaju oni koji nisu citali jednog od dva pisca? (Ili nijednog :D)Kad sam to vec rekao, citao sam obojicu vise puta u originalu, a Andrica i u prevodu na engleski. Tolkien je pisao o magiji, a Andricevo pisanje je magija.EDIT. Malo ipak imam problem sa ovima koje Tolkien "smara". Ja nisam poznat po strpljenju, a barem 2x sam u celosti procitao trilogiju iz 4 dela.

Edited January 8, 2012 by Indy

[Tolaa]

Ja ću iskreno...Tolkina ne mogu da čitam, smara me, Andrića mogu.

Mudro zbori taj Murkok. Glasao za Andrica, jer sam njega citao (i uzivao), a Tolkina nisam jos uvek ni takao, a posle onih pola sata filma koje sam jedva izdrzao, nesto ni nemam zelju. :P

+1 za oba posta, s tim sto sam pokusala da citam Tolkina.

[Аврам Гојић]

ivi andriću je za nobelovu izdvojen roman travnička hronika.

jebeni retard jatacno, u pravu si. edit: ili nisi. Nobelov komitet izdvaja 3 knjige u presentation speechu: NDĆ, Travničke hronike i Gospođicu. Edited January 8, 2012 by Marko M. Dabovic

[Cane Vukic Prebranac]

LotR је одличан филм. На Дрини ћуприја је одлична књига. :D

[Weenie Pooh]

Mudro zbori taj Murkok.

Moram još samo ovo da prenesem:

Tolkien and Moorcock walk into a bar."What are you having?" says the affable, donnish Tolkien."Nothing from you, imperialist pig-dog,!" shrieks Moorcock, slicing off his head with a shrieking sword wreathed in black fire.At that moment, in walks Philip K Dick. "God told me if I came here a member of the Christian resistance would buy me a drink. Or maybe it was the Soviets, I'm not sure."Moorcock claps his arm around Dick's shoulders and says, "Behold, the man!"

:P