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Stranica sa zvanicnim podacima o nesreci: https://avherald.com/h?article=528f27ec&opt=0

Ovo je zanimljivo, prvi izvestaj od strane Indijske agencije za avijaciju:

On Jun 13th 2025 the DGCA reported, that initial preliminary findings rule out a bird strike as no bird carcasses have been found. Loading of the aircraft was routine, hence a load problem is unlikely. The likelihood of a pilot error is considered minimal as is the simultaneous failure of both engines. An inspection of all Dreamliners (B788, B789) has been ordered.

Sa druge strane, ljudi po netu tvrde da cuju na snimcima startovanje RAT sto bi trebalo valjda da znaci da je avion izgubio napajanje?

Pilot pred penzijom i sa ne toliko iskustva za te godine:

According to information coming from India the captain of the flight (60) had accumulated 8200 hours of flying experience, was line training captain and was about to retire. The first officer had accumulated 1100 hours of flying experience.

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57 minutes ago, Shan Jan said:

Sa druge strane, ljudi po netu tvrde da cuju na snimcima startovanje RAT sto bi trebalo valjda da znaci da je avion izgubio napajanje?

Neki cuju, neki ne. Kao sto neki i vide RAT, a neki ne.

Ne zaboravi da je onaj prvi snimak u stvari snimak necijeg telefona koji pusta taj snimak - to je vrlo limitiran zvuk.

Piše da su pronašli jednu crnu kutiju, FDR, ali u komentarima se navodi da 787 ima objedinjenu crnu kutiju koja ima funkciju i FDR-a i CVR-a i to dva komada i da je jedna kutija definitivno dovoljna za rekonstrukciju leta.

The news in the summary about the FDR having been found is most certainly incorrect. The B787 does not utilise an FDR/CVR. B787 has dual EAFRs, each carries a redundant copy of the entire data (flight and audio). Finding one black box is all that is needed to reconstruct the flight.

Detalji o pilotu i kopilotu iz indijskih medija, oni kažu da je pilot imao 55 godina, da je leteo od '94. i da je hteo da dâ otkaz kako bi se posvetio nezi svog oca starijeg od 90 godina:

Captain Sumeet Sabharwal, 55

The captain of Air India Flight 171 from Ahmedabad to Gatwick, London, Sumeet Sabharwal, was one of Air India’s most experienced pilots with 8200 hours of flying logged in. Sabharwal, a resident of Powai, was unmarried and lived with his nonagenarian father. Neighbours recalled that Sabharwal had been a pilot since 1994. “Only a few days ago he told his father that he will be quitting his job to look after him full time,” said Shiv Sena lawmaker Dilip Lande who had come to the Sabhawals’ home to condole. The family, said neighbours, was deeply connected to the aviation industry. Captain Sabharwal’s father had retired from the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) while his two nephews are also pilots. “They are wonderful people,” said their next-door neighbour. “Whenever he flew out, Sumeet would ask us to keep an eye on his father. He has now been left devastated.”

Air India crash: The crew of the Dreamliner

Air India crash: The crew of the Dreamliner

First Officer Clive Kunder, 32

Like Captain Sabharwal, First Officer Clive Kunder too belonged to a family steeped in aviation. His mother was a flight attendant with Air India and Kunder grew up at the Air India colony at Kalina before moving to Borivali. Kunder completed his aircraft maintenance course at Bombay Flying Club (BFC) at Juhu. BFC president Captain Mihir Bhagvati tol HT, “Clive was a student of the 2006 batch. He also attended some ground school classes for flying in Florida.” Kunder had 1100 hours of flying under his belt and had worked with a private airline before joining Air India five years ago. Clive, a bachelor is survived by his parents and his sister Kliene, who told HT that they were in Sydney. “My father Clifford and mother Rekha are with me with in Sydney and we have no information on the condition of my brother. We are leaving on Friday for Ahmedabad to find out how he is.”

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/air-india-crash-the-crew-of-the-dreamliner-101749756620820.html

Evo i pored ovog gore pilota Stiva Šajbnera (prvi klip u poruci iznad) i pilot Bajron Bejli sa 30.000 sati iskustva većinom na sličnom avionu (Boingu 777) australijskom Sky Newsu misli da je u pitanju ljudska greška.

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Isto misli i naš pilot Stevan Ignjatović sa 22 hiljade sati leta, koji je gostovao na K1:

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A student named Bhoomi Chauhan was saved from this terrible fate [of dying in Air-India Boeing 787 crash] by busy roads on her way to the airport.

Scheduled to fly back to London where she’d rejoin her husband, Bhoomi arrived at the final check-in desk 10 minutes late.

She told local media: “The flight was scheduled to take off at 1.10pm. The boarding procedure was over at 12.10pm and I reached at 12.20pm.

“I had reached the checking-in gate and requested them to allow me to board the flight. I told them I shall clear all the formalities quickly but they did not allow me to proceed.”

Bhoomi was just about to leave the airport when she heard about the crash.

“I began shivering. My legs started trembling,” she said. “I felt numb for quite some time.”

https://www.joe.co.uk/news/investigators-identify-three-key-factors-that-may-have-caused-air-india-crash-491715

Ovaj lik je našao čist jedan snimak (dakle ne s ekrana) i po zvuku tvrdi da su najverovatnije motori otkazali i aktivirao se RAT (ona mini vetroeleketrana na donjem delu aviona).

Indijski mediji danas masovno javljaju da saznaju da se pilot pri pozivu u pomoć žalio na to da motori ne rade i da nema uzgon.

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'Mayday..No Power..Going Down': Air India AI171 pilot's l...

Sources said the last message from the pilot to the ATC was five seconds short. The message was, "MAYDAY… MAYDAY… MAYDAY… NO POWER… NO THRUST… GOING DOWN…" There is no official release of the audio...

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Koliko je star bio avion?

Boeing, ako su oba motora otkazala, a nije ljudska greška, ce da ima bas velikih problema...

1 hour ago, radisa said:

Koliko je star bio avion?

Boeing, ako su oba motora otkazala, a nije ljudska greška, ce da ima bas velikih problema...

Mislim 12 god da sam negde pročitao.

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