da više nikad ne sedneš u te boinge... pitaj boga šta tim indijcima uvaljuju, ili možda oni traljavo rade održavanje aviona

Uzas. Nekako sam se odvikao od ovih ogromnih nesreca, bar bez nekih ekstremnih faktora (sletanje u Nepal, raketiranje od strane Rusa i sl.). Zato su nas i posokirali ona dva udesa 737MAX. Tek ce se znati sta je bio problem.

Stravicno.

Edited June 12Jun 12 by Shan Jan

https://x.com/IndiaTodayNE/status/1933159420206227865

https://x.com/BNODesk/status/1933163659460505663

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Aero Telegraf

Tragedija u Indiji: Šta do sada znamo o padu B787 Er Indi...

Više od 240 ljudi nalazilo se u avionu Boing 787-8 kompanije Er Indija (Air India), koji se danas srušio odmah nakon poletanja sa međunarodnog aerodroma Sardar.

@radisa Obrisao - nije u redu da širim neproverene informacije o kojima nemam pojma

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Dostupan snimak, kao da nije imao penjanje, kako se odvojio od piste, točkovi izvučeni, vuče se i... :(

Snimci:

reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1l9no7u/new_video_of_take_off_to_the_crash_of_air_india/

reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1l9i44l/air_india_plane_crash_after_take_off/

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Em pao u urbano naselje, em pun kerozina 😢

Ima dobar snimak cctv-a liči da se jedva odlepio od piste, i to baš kraja piste, podigao oblak prašine, još malo ostao u vazduhu i onda...

Just two days ago, his wife, Dr. Komi Vyas, a renowned doctor in Udaipur, resigned from her job. The bags were packed, goodbyes said, the future within reach.

This morning, the family of five, filled with hope and excitement, boarded Air India flight 171 to London. They clicked a selfie. Sent it to relatives. A one-way journey to a new life. But they never made it. The plane crashed. No one survived.

In a matter of moments, a lifetime of dreams turned to ash. A brutal reminder, life is terrifyingly fragile. Everything you build, everything you hope for, everything you love, it all hangs by a thread. So while you can, live, love, and don’t wait for happiness to start tomorrow.

https://x.com/theskindoctor13/status/1933194555350024374

Joooj tugo .

Užasno. Nadam se samo da je sve bilo trenutno, da ljudi nisu mogli ni da shvate šta se dešava.

A naročito ne deca.

We don’t just firewall (go to maximum thrust) the throttles for takeoff. Instead, we use “Reduced Thrust” settings. These are calculated based on the environment; runway length, temperature, pressure, winds, etc.. A reduced thrust takeoff saves wear & tear on the engines, but is always calculated to be able to get you off the ground. A computer does it; you just tell it where you are, what runway you’ll use & how heavy you are. It tells you what % thrust to use & what flap setting is needed.

Can takeoff data get screwed up? Yes. Most often by entering the wrong weight (after fuel is added). If so, you can get a lower thrust & incorrect flap setting back from the computer.

Takeoff data almost always employs the “balanced field” concept. On very long runways, you can use a lower reduced thrust. For our purposes, this just means it’s not unusual for jets to use most of the runway for takeoff, even if it’s very long.

During takeoff, many airlines have a procedure where, just after setting the pre-calculated takeoff thrust, the pilot flying calls “Check thrust”. The pilot monitoring looks at the engines & compares the thrust to the calculated reduced thrust, then replies “Thrust set, 92.6%” (or whatever it is that day). I don’t know if Air India does this.

You can always firewall the thrust if things don’t look right.

The critical point of takeoff is called “V1”. Without going into details, if something is wrong before V1, you can stop. If it’s wrong after V1, you should make every effort to fly because you can’t stop in the remaining runway available. It is considered safer to take it into the air.

All airliners must demonstrate the ability to lose an engine at V1, continue the takeoff & safely climb away from the ground to a minimum safe altitude. This sometimes gets complex, but there is always a plan for that.

Windshear is a major threat to takeoff & landing. Wind is part of your airspeed; if it’s blowing in your face at 20 knots while you have the parking brake on, you still theoretically have an airspeed of 20 knots. Lift is based, in part, on airspeed (I’m simplifying). In a windshear event, the wind is strong, but then suddenly stops blowing. You lose a lot of airspeed & with it, lift. This is usually associated with thunderstorms in the area, but not always.

Have airliners simultaneously lost both engines before? Yes, usually due to something like bird strikes (think “Sully”) or fuel issues (“Gimli Glider” or Air Transat 236). Fuel issues are pretty rare & don’t usually happen until in cruise. It could be fuel exhaustion or fuel contamination; contamination can mean many things here. Maybe dirt in the fuel (which would get stopped by a filter, until the filter clogs, which trips a bypass to keep fuel flowing to the engine & gives a warning light) or it could mean water in the fuel (which would probably not be stopped by the filter or detectable to pilots, but fuel supplies are routinely tested).

Can airliners glide? Yes, but not as well as you might imagine. In probably our most famous example, Sully reached a top altitude of about 3,000’ after birds killed both his engines, then was able to glide for about 2 minutes, 30 seconds, which is losing about 1,200’ per minute. Obviously, glides that start low to the ground are shorter.

Ok, that’s some basic background data on engines & how they are used.

As always – and I cannot stress this enough – nobody knows what happened here, as good as their theories may sound. I sure as hell don’t…I’m very confused by what I’ve seen.

Time & an investigation will tell. This will be an investigation for the history books; while I don’t trust many govt agencies, I have full confidence in the NTSB.

https://x.com/MCCCANM/status/1933299909429768378

Indijski premijer Narendra Modi iskoristio "priliku" za selfi.

to give to ANI - is commendable.

The nation is sick and tired of these photo-ops.

https://x.com/srivatsayb/status/1933384569094639903