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[noskich]

3 hours ago, Gojko & Stojko said:

I sve si ovo ispisao sedeći u plutokratiji koja testira više po stanovniku od te Južne Koreje koju su uzeli za primer na grafikonu koji si linkovao. Pa ti si šampion sveta i okoline.

 

SaE

 

Jel to ona plutokratija koja ima 2229 kreveta na intenzivnoj nezi na 25 miliona stanovnika? 

NSW ima 874 na 7 i po miliona.

[noskich]

13 hours ago, Host said:

Sta mu tacno zamerate?

 

Monarhija na Tajlandu je bila pred gasenjem kada ju je revitalizovala US da bi imala branik odbrane prema Vijetnamu i Kini. Pocivsi Bumibol je i bio rodjen u US. 

Gotovo sve lose na Tajlandu danas je zaostavstina US... 

 

Elem, a u nasoj plutokratijici danas zarazenih duplo vise i kusur nego ICU kreveta, 4737.

 

Doktor u Sidneju pise:

 

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[Indy]

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There was capacity to surge the number of ICU beds by an additional 4,261 (189%) if needed.

 

Btw. Australija nije plutokratija (barem za sada.)

[noskich]

4 hours ago, Gojko & Stojko said:

I sve si ovo ispisao sedeći u plutokratiji koja testira više po stanovniku od te Južne Koreje koju su uzeli za primer na grafikonu koji si linkovao. Pa ti si šampion sveta i okoline.

 

SaE

 

Ne bih lenj da proverim broj testova: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing-source-data

Australia

113615

 24.6 miliona  stanovnika

South Korea

316,664

51.47 miliona stanovnika

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104645/covid19-testing-rate-select-countries-worldwide/

 

Rate of coronavirus (COVID-19) tests performed in select countries worldwide as of March 20, 2020(per one million population)

 

South Korea 6148

Australia 4473

Edited April 2, 2020 by noskich

[Indy]

Prenosim ovo van glavne teme, jer se tiče nas down under najviše (plus toga, članak je iza paywalla, pa ga prenosim celog.)

 

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canberratimes.com.au

 

New Zealand modelling gives insight into Australian virus numbers

Kirsten Lawson

8-10 minutes

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New Zealand has released its coronavirus modelling, showing the country is facing between 12,600 and 33,600 deaths, with 6.8 per cent of the country's population requiring hospitalisation, due to the coronavirus.

If extrapolated to Australia, the figures suggest between 65,000 and 174,000 deaths, and 1.74 million hospitalisations. That extrapolation assumes the numbers are directly comparable - an assumption that has not been confirmed by authorities on either side of the Tasman.

The modelling shows how quickly hospitals could be overrun, and explains the thinking behind New Zealand's lockdown. It also gives insight into why Australia has imposed increasingly severe measures to prevent the spread of the virus.

New Zealand health authorities based their "plan-for" scenario on Australian modelling, their report said.

The New Zealand modelling considers what would happen with an infection rate (R0) of 1.5, when each infected person infects 1.5 others, and an R0 of 2.2.

It considers scenarios where the country is 25 per cent successful and 50 per cent successful in controlling the outbreak. But it points out that more intense control is plausible, including people keeping at home and closing off parts of the country. China's experiences suggested severe controls could result in less spread, with a higher than 50 per cent effectiveness, the report says.

New Zealand has since locked the country down and told everyone to stay home.

"If substantially uncontrolled spread of disease occurs in NZ during 2020, our 'plan-for' scenario based on the modelling work by our Australian colleagues sees 65 per cent of the population (3,230,000) contracting a COVID-19 infection, though only 34 per cent of the population (1,680,000) would probably be symptomatic (typically mild disease)," the report says, pointing out that the number could well be overestimated given it was not yet winter and control measures could be more effective than anticipated.

"Indeed, our 'plan-for' scenario is somewhat towards "worse case", and the most likely outcome for NZ is probably less severe."

The report says New Zealand's "plan-for" scenario assumes the higher infection rate, R0 of 2.2, and 25 per cent success in halting the spread.

If that played out, the epidemic would peak in week 21. Sixty-five per cent of the country would be infected, with just over half that number showing symptoms. That would translate to 8.6 million Australians showing symptoms.

About 20 per cent of symptomatic cases would be severe and end up in hospital - 1.7 million in the Australian context.

Between 4 and 4.7 per cent of symptomatic cases would need intensive care - up to about 400,000 people if the figures are extrapolated to the Australian population.

Deaths would range from 0.75 per cent to 2 per cent of symptomatic cases under the "plan-for" scenario.

This scenario, assuming 2 per cent of people with symptoms die, anticipates deaths in every age group other than 0-9, although the numbers are comparatively low under the age of 50, with fewer than 1000 deaths in under-50s in New Zealand. The big impacts start from 50 and accelerate, with the modelling suggesting that as many as 9.3 per cent of over 80-year-olds in New Zealand could die. Overall, it anticipates 0.68 per cent of the country's population could die - which equates to 2 per cent of symptomatic people.

The New Zealand data also assumes people can transmit the virus for 48 hours before they show symptoms; Australia's advice so far is that people can transmit 24 hours before symptoms manifest.

 

 

 

[Gojko & Stojko]

1 hour ago, noskich said:

 

Ne bih lenj da proverim broj testova: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing-source-data

Australia

113615

 24.6 miliona  stanovnika

South Korea

316,664

51.47 miliona stanovnika

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104645/covid19-testing-rate-select-countries-worldwide/

 

Rate of coronavirus (COVID-19) tests performed in select countries worldwide as of March 20, 2020(per one million population)

 

South Korea 6148

Australia 4473

'Ajde?

 

A pazi ovo, 1 aprila, Južna Koreja testirala 421.547 stanovnika (vidi ovde).

1 aprila, NSW (7.5 miliona) testirao 110537 (vidi ovde, na zvaničnom sajtu NSW plutokratske vlade, u državi u kojoj ti živiš).

2. aprila ujutro, Australija testirala više od 261000 stanovnika (vidi ovde, na sajtu savezne plutokratske vlade).

 

Pa sad opet ne budi lenj i kaži nam gde je veći broj testiranja na milion stanovnika, i kaži nam u kakvoj to plutokratiji ti jadan živiš.

 

SaE

[noskich]

3 hours ago, Gojko & Stojko said:

'Ajde?

 

A pazi ovo, 1 aprila, Južna Koreja testirala 421.547 stanovnika (vidi ovde).

1 aprila, NSW (7.5 miliona) testirao 110537 (vidi ovde, na zvaničnom sajtu NSW plutokratske vlade, u državi u kojoj ti živiš).

2. aprila ujutro, Australija testirala više od 261000 stanovnika (vidi ovde, na sajtu savezne plutokratske vlade).

 

Pa sad opet ne budi lenj i kaži nam gde je veći broj testiranja na milion stanovnika, i kaži nam u kakvoj to plutokratiji ti jadan živiš.

 

SaE

 

A koliko je ROK testirala 2 aprila ujutro? 

 

Evo kako to rade plutokratije: 

https://www.rt.com/news/484723-us-france-face-masks/

 

The US bought out a planeload of Chinese-made face masks right on the tarmac just as the haul of the much needed protective gear was about to set off for France, the head of a French region told RT.

 

A kako rade Kubanci od prvog dana pobede revolucije: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_medical_internationalism 

 

"Cuba has 42,000 workers in international collaborations in 103 different countries, of whom more than 30,000 are health personnel, including no fewer than 19,000 physicians."[2] Cuba provides more medical personnel to the developing world than all the G8 countries combined.

 

 

 

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[noskich]

"Today in the morning in China, the Americans bought out the French order for cash right on the tarmac. The France-bound plane full of the much needed masks in France departed to the US afterwards."
"Remember, Trump also wanted to buy a German vaccine-developing company, co-funded by Germany, to get the Coronavirus vaccine exclusively (!) for the United States. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/not-for-sale-anger-in-germany-at-report-trump-seeking-exclusive-coronavirus-vaccine-deal)
Earlier, Trump wanted to buy Greenland from Denmark and called it "nasty" when it refused to sell it.
Imagine, China, another powerful country with deep pockets, imitates America's predatory policies and buys Angola, because it needs its oil."

 

Hajmo nazad na broj kreveta u bolnicama:

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-hospital-beds-per-capita-us-south-korea-italy-2020-3

 

 

Sve ce to pre ili kasnije doci na svoje. Sta je pravi prosperitet, raditi i stedeti, kao sto radi Azija. A ne stampati novce iz pozadine i pumpati balone kao na zapadu.

 

 

Cuban and Chinese doctors arriving in Italy to assist the health authorities.

Cuba has the interferon Alpha-2B, powerful in the treatment of coronavirus and China has the experience of having overcome the peak of infections in its territory.

Edited April 2, 2020 by noskich

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Nisam dobio odgovor na pitanje kolko je testirao Vijetnam [emoji3064]

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Načekaćeš se.

[Gojko & Stojko]

13 hours ago, noskich said:

A koliko je ROK testirala 2 aprila ujutro?

Manje od plutokratije u kojoj živiš i kukaš da ništa ne valja.

 

Da ti ja pomognem pošto si se ućutao - Južna Koreja 8190 testova na milion stanovnika, Australija 10609 testova na milion stanovnika, tvoj NSW 14652 testova na milion stanovnika. Plutokratija.

 

SaE

[magi]

Kukuuu

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[peralozac]

Eto dočekasmo i to čudo, da nam liberali uvedu komunizam. Ispade da svašta može kad se hoće. Doduše 6-month trial version, ali ćeraćemo se još po isteku probnog perioda.

[Gojko & Stojko]

11 hours ago, peralozac said:

Eto dočekasmo i to čudo, da nam liberali uvedu komunizam. Ispade da svašta može kad se hoće. Doduše 6-month trial version, ali ćeraćemo se još po isteku probnog perioda.

Laburisti ili liberali, što bi rek'o Radovan III, ne pravim  pitanje.

 

Na SBS bratstvo i jedinstvo (moracikus da se žali što su ga zapostavili)). Plutokratija

 

Na srpskom; Најважније чињенице о вирусу корона (КОВИД-19)

Na hrvatskom: Važno o koronavirusu (COVID-19)

Na bosanskom: Korona virus (Covid-19) činjenice

Na slovenačkom: Dejstva o koronavirusu (COVID-19)

Na makedonskom:  Се што треба да знаете за коронавирусот (КОВИД-19)

SaE

[noskich]

On 3.4.2020. at 9:55, Gojko & Stojko said:

Manje od plutokratije u kojoj živiš i kukaš da ništa ne valja.

 

Da ti ja pomognem pošto si se ućutao - Južna Koreja 8190 testova na milion stanovnika, Australija 10609 testova na milion stanovnika, tvoj NSW 14652 testova na milion stanovnika. Plutokratija.

 

SaE

 

Broj testova nije cilj sam po sebi. Cilj je valjda minimizovanje umrlih na prvom mestu. Najuspesnije zemlje do sada po tom pitanju su upravo azijske drzave, narocito uzimajuci u obzir da su one bile prve na udaru. Najneuspesnije ne-drzave plutokratije prve na crnoj listi statistike. 

 

Ajmo jos malo o plutokratiji kako to funkcionise:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-masks/u-s-big-bucks-turn-global-face-mask-hunt-into-wild-west-idUSKBN21L253

 

In France and Germany, senior officials said the United States was paying far above the market price for medical-grade masks from No. 1 producer China, on occasion winning contracts through higher bids even after European buyers believed a deal was done, and Brazil’s health minister reported a similar incident.

 

U.S.-listed multinational 3M Co said Friday that the White House had ordered it to stop all shipments to Canada and Latin America of respirators that it manufactures in the United States, despite what 3M called “significant humanitarian implications.”

 

In another case, an order of 200,000 masks bound for Germany from a 3M factory in China were “confiscated” in Bangkok, Berlin Secretary of Interior Andreas Geisel, said in a statement, calling it an “act of modern piracy.”

 

“On the (airport) tarmac, the Americans get out their cash and pay three or four times what we have offered,” Rottner told radio RTL France on Wednesday.

 

“It boils down to market forces,” the official said. “The one who pays the most gets the prize.”

 

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"North Korean-style Socialism is taking over the world: social distancing, no gatherings, no bars, welfare support, free kindergartens, empty roads, police roadblocks, shortages of toilet paper and long queues are the new normal."

 

 

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Edited April 4, 2020 by noskich