Zemljotres od 9 stepeni Rihtera u Japanu, 11.03.2011

[Yoyogi]

Svuda ima lopova

Miki maus stanica izvestava o nemogucem.Kao nekadasnji sw developer za ATM tvrdim da to nije moguce. Cak i prevrnut ATM mora da se nasilno otvori, tu treba svasta a to nema neko ko nije bas zato dosao.Japanska policija saopstila iz mesta gde niko nije mogao da udje od mulja i blata? Kako je banka znala bez da ATM ima komunikacionu vezu i da je otvoren? Bullshit.Treba mi vise uveravanja da je to igde moguce.

[Muwan]

Možda svuda ima lopova ali malo gde ima ovakvih ljudi:

Sedamdesetogodišnja Japanka iz Osake predala je gradskim ocima svog rodnog mesta 10 miliona jena (preko 123.000 dolara) kao bespovratnu pomoć postradalima od katastrofalnog zemljotresa koji je u petak prošle nedelje uzdrmao Japan. Kako javljaju danas tokijski mediji, starica je došla u gradsku većnicu sa velikim paketom obmotanim običnim pak-papirom. “Molim vas da ovu sumu iskoristite za pružanje pomoći ljudima u nevolji, koju su im doneli zemljotres i cunami”, rekla je ona.

[čekmeže]

Miki maus stanica izvestava o nemogucem.Kao nekadasnji sw developer za ATM tvrdim da to nije moguce. Cak i prevrnut ATM mora da se nasilno otvori, tu treba svasta a to nema neko ko nije bas zato dosao.Japanska policija saopstila iz mesta gde niko nije mogao da udje od mulja i blata? Kako je banka znala bez da ATM ima komunikacionu vezu i da je otvoren? Bullshit.Treba mi vise uveravanja da je to igde moguce.

Osoblje banke prijavilo policiji da je neko ukrao novac iz sefa, ne ATMa. Idi objasni im kao sw developer za ATM da to nije moguce.

[sherman]

ti sto su krali su sigurno Svrbovi na privremenom radu u Japanu. zna se ko voli da krade

[cmrlj]

ti sto su krali su sigurno Svrbovi na privremenom radu u Japanu. zna se ko voli da krade

:D nema drugog objasnjenja. i jakuze su isto nase, nema to veze s japancima ;)

[sherman]

:D nema drugog objasnjenja. i jakuze su isto nase, nema to veze s japancima ;)

nemoj tako da insinuiras. Jakuze se bave humanitarnim radom, koliko sam ja obavesten

[Yoyogi]

Idemo dalje: Fukushima postaje jos vece nista a mediji, srecni da je dosla Libija, je opet podgrevaju.Against this background the initial Japanese decision to do nothing at all about food shipments looks like the correct one. Unfortunately public hysteria has been fanned by ridiculous statements from overseas and UN officials, forcing the present limited climbdown.Barring some new and unforeseen event at the powerplant, it seems clear that there will be no measurable radiological effects on anybody as a result of the quake and tsunami. Unfortunately the psychological consequences – almost entirely a result of fearmongering and bad reporting in the media worldwide – seem set to be measurable. Mainstream media finally have some decent analysis here and there, but every minor development in the case is still reported on breathlessly, in a panic-stricken tone. Even those who seek to give a calmer view are still, a week after the quake, writing things like this:Those at real risk now are the truly brave technicians inside the plant trying to cool it down: the Fukushima 50. They will almost certainly receive fatal doses of radiation as they work around the clock.No, they won't: nor even such doses as to measurably affect their health. Nobody else looks to be affected either. But the hysteria seems set to go on and on, even among relatively impartial and calm-minded observers – who remain rare. Asinine talk of an "apocalypse" and a "situation out of control" by the EU Energy Commissioner has drawn condemnation even from the French – who themselves have been guilty of inflating the seriousness of the Fukushima situation over recent days. (One can't help noticing that Japan is perhaps the main competition facing France in the export market for new reactors, potentially enormous in coming decades.)Ovo za Francuze sam mislim vec rekao. Podlost i gore od beskorisnosti - prava stetnost: salju iodine tablete, salju evakuacione avione za svoje gradjane, salju nepotrebne i tehnoloski retardirane robote ...samo da oni kao nesto tu kao rade. Usput daju izjave o Apokalipsi. Ceo clanak

Edited March 22, 2011 by Yoyogi

[Takeshi]

Whistleblower slams Japan nuclear regulationA nuclear industry whistleblower who helped design protective containment vessels for reactors has attacked the Japanese government, its nuclear industry and regulators over their safety record. Dr Masashi Goto, a nuclear engineer, resigned from his job at the Toshiba Corporation over safety concerns.

Toshiba supplied two of the reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant that was stricken by an earthquake and tsunami on March 11. Dr Goto criticised his country's record on nuclear safety. "We have the government commission overseeing nuclear safety standards and in my opinion they are not doing their job," he told ABC correspondent Eric Campbell last Thursday in Tokyo in an exclusive interview for Four Corners. Around 300 engineers are working round-the-clock at Fukushima to contain the worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl in 1986. They have been spraying the reactors with sea water so fuel rods will not overheat and emit radiation. Hopes for a more permanent solution depend on connecting electricity cables to reactivate on-site water pumps at each of the reactors. Working in suits sealed by duct tape, engineers have managed to re-establish power cables to the No. 1, 2, 5 and 6 reactors and plan to start testing systems soon. But Dr Goto says the Fukushima crisis shows Japan has not yet learned the lessons of history. "At Three Mile Island the nuclear fuel melted. Fuel is melting here now," he said. "We have to design reactors to withstand melting fuel rods. Right now the reactor will break down due to the heat generated by the melting rods." Dr Goto alleges that in Japan's nuclear industry profits take precedence over safety standards. "No-one says it officially or openly. When setting standards for future earthquakes, the thought is of money - how much is it going to cost?" he said. "This underlies the government's decision making. They are thinking the costs could have a bad repercussion on the economy." Dr Goto says one of his special research interests at Toshiba was how to make containment vessels stronger. He says Japan's nuclear safety standards have been based on an insufficient acknowledgment of the potential severity of natural disasters. "What's wrong with the standards is that the anticipated level of the worst-case-scenario earthquake is not correct," he said. "Seismologists have different opinions and predictions. Some say bigger quakes are coming. Others say a big one is unlikely. "Decisions have been made based on the opinion of the more optimistic seismologist and the opinions of the pessimistic ones are ignored." The earthquake that shook Japan on March 11 was magnitude 9.0 - the strongest recorded earthquake in Japan, and far stronger than the country's nuclear industry had anticipated. Despite this, the Tokyo Electric Power Company, which operates the Fukushima plant, boasted in its corporate publicity that its nuclear power stations were "designed for the largest conceivable earthquake" and that "all designs provide margins of safety capable of withstanding even natural disasters".

[Yoyogi]

Osoblje banke prijavilo policiji da je neko ukrao novac iz sefa, ne ATMa. Idi objasni im kao sw developer za ATM da to nije moguce.

By SHINO YUASA, Associated Press Shino Yuasa, Associated Press – Tue Mar 22, 7:44 am ETTOKYO – The earthquake and tsunami that pulverized coastal Japan crippled a bank's security mechanisms and left a vault wide open. That allowed someone to walk off with 40 million yen ($500,000).The March 11 tsunami washed over the Shinkin Bank, like much else in Kesennuma, and police said between the wave's power and the ensuing power outages, the vault came open."The bank was flooded, and things were thrown all over. It was a total mess. Somebody stole the money in the midst of the chaos," said a police official in Miyagi prefecture, where Kesennuma is located.The bank notified police on Tuesday, 11 days after the disaster, said the official, who spoke on customary condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.Pa znas sta, cak i da pare nisu negde u mulju, 11 dana drzati pare na ponudu u onom haosu i nanosu pa posle od toga praviti vest...Stanovnistvo Maldiva nije verovalo bankama pa je ustedjevinu drzalo po kucama u slamaricama. Onda ih je strefio tsunami 2004. i svi su izgubili sve. Niko nije dosao da kaze "neko u haosu i neredu mi maznuo pare, vataj ga!".

[Yoyogi]

Cek jos malo o ovoj "vesti", ako je tacna. Nisam je nasao u japanskim vestima. Videvsi kako su mediji izvestavali, moguce da je i ovaj AP-ov dupeglavac jednostavno poslao nesto sto je moguce (za njegovu publiku cak i upadljivo odsustvo kradje je nelagodno) a neproverljivo. Ili pre nego sto je provereno i koliko novca i da nije pod muljem.Grad Mladenovac, da ga recimo zadesi nesto tesko i da ga zbrise sa lica zemlje, koliko bi imao poslovnica banaka, osiguravajucih drustava i ustanova gde se cuva novac? Pet? 10?Pa da neko krene i da trazi pare pod rusevinama (zamislimo da nema metar mulja). E, ovde ima vise mrtvih nego sto Mladenovac ima stanovnika pa je "nadjena" jedna banka gde neko anoniman prica sta mu padne na pamet. Gde su sve ostale banke? Gde su prodavnice? Japan je 70% cash society, najvise od bogatog sveta, cash je na sve strane. Kreditne kartice su retke, mozda i redje nego u Srbiji.Dalje, Lawson (lanac kao 7-11) je izgubio 40 prodavnica, 100 zaposlenih je "nestalo" i u svakoj je bio cash. Ima takvih radnji na stotine, hiljade. Nikakvih prijava kradje.Pola miliona evakuisanih, to je vise nego Novi Beograd + Zemun, koliko banaka i cash-places je bilo u tom podrucju? Mozda hiljade. Koliko prijava?Evo, jedna, neproverljiva, od osvedocenih "weekend reporters".

Edited March 23, 2011 by Yoyogi

[Yoyogi]

Evo, sad sam je nasao u japanskim novinama. Identicna kao sto je AP preneo bez onog nervirajuceg "anonyimity as he is not authorized to speak to media".Kaze, zemljotres pa tsunami su otvorili sef i omogucili nekome da odseta sa 40 miliona yen. Pre ce biti da otpliva sa onim krshem.Pri tome, kao da se misli da je tsunami bio kao jedan udarac cekica a ne stihija koja je nosila kamione, 100-tonske teretne brodove, kuce, sve na sta naidje, pola sata pa onda u povlacenju skoro isto tako.Sada, ispada da je tsunami (spoj izazvan vodom u elektronskom mehanizmu za zakljucavanje) samo otvorio sef, ostavio vrata da landaraju i pare na ponudu. Kao da je samo prvih donjih 1-2m (od 12 metara tsunamija) bilo tu da se petlja sa sefom a jos trospratnu visinu vode preko toga to nije zanimalo.Ko je bio u Japanu ili vidjao Japance kad izvade novac, odmah je primetio da su novcanice glanc nove, kao sad odstampane. To je iz dva razloga: prvi je da nisu heavy duty i brzo se cepaju. Jedva da su nesto bolje od mekih korica nedeljnih novina. Drugi razlog je da u interesu narodnog zdravlja, novac ne kruzi previse i ne prenosi bakterije. Jedanput izadje nov iz ATM masine ili sa saltera i kad se vrati ide na spaljivanje a novi se stampa i vraca u promet. Toliki novac (40 miliona yena) poslat u banku sigurno iza sebe ima trag serijskih brojeva koji su poslati.Onaj ko je stvarno hteo nesto da mazne, bolje da je otisao da trazi kase poplavljenih 7-11 i slicnih. Jos bolje Japan Post gde pojedinci donose cash depozite i nema serijskih brojeva.

[Yoyogi]

Evo jos, (Sreda 23. mart, 0:12am Bg.) Skoro isto mesto, bez tsunamija. Kao da hoce da vidi da li je Fukushima neunistiva.Strong quakes jolt northeastern Japan; nuclear plants unaffectedWednesday 23rd March, 09:20 AM JSTTOKYO — Several strong earthquakes jolted northeastern Japan on Wednesday morning, after the area was severely damaged by the devastating March 11 quake, the Japan Meteorological Agency said.No tsunami warnings were issued following the quakes, believed to be the aftershocks of the deadly quake, while the Fukushima Daiichi and Daini nuclear power plants were not damaged by them and the ongoing reconstruction work there was not hindered, the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said.Among them, a quake with a preliminary magnitude of 6.0 jolted mainly Fukushima Prefecture at 7:12 a.m., where a disaster has been unfolding at the Daiichi nuclear power plant in the wake of the March 11 quake.The quake measured upper 5 on the Japanese seismic intensity scale of 7 in Iwaki, Fukushima, and 4 in several locations in Fukushima, Miyagi and Ibaraki prefectures, according to the agency.It was followed by additional quakes, one of which also measured upper 5 in Fukushima Prefecture and lower 5 in Ibaraki Prefecture.It was the first time that an aftershock measured upper 5 since Saturday.

[Weenie Pooh]

Novinarski Hall of Shame glede izvestavanja iz Japana.

Spektakularno. Britanski Kuriri prednjače, kao po običaju. Meni je najbolji je onaj "izveštaj" Keely from Croydon za Sun :isuse:U samom vrhu su i Daily Mail koji javlja da radioaktivni oblak stiže u Kaliforniju do petka... i opet Sun sa svojim Supermesecom na koji se izgleda samo još RTS primio

[hoffnung]

jedan moj poznanik se brine jer mu se nedeljama ne javlja najbolja drugarica. slao je mail, kontaktirao druge prijatelje, sms... i do sada nije cuo nista a tice se nje. pa da pitam, jel postoji neki sajt ili bilo sta drugo gde bi mogao da se obrati?

[Yoyogi]

jedan moj poznanik se brine jer mu se nedeljama ne javlja najbolja drugarica. slao je mail, kontaktirao druge prijatelje, sms... i do sada nije cuo nista a tice se nje. pa da pitam, jel postoji neki sajt ili bilo sta drugo gde bi mogao da se obrati?

Videcu ujutro iz ofisa, mislim da ima nesto.Ako hoces, posalji na PM ime i prezime i ako jos nesto treba (godina rodjenja, mesto gde je zivela) pa cu da pitam moje da potraze.