slobodan pristup naoružanju

[fonTelefon]

Jbg ne zvace se zumance iz njih samo u Baznii.

[Agni]

A u čemu je problem sa kinder jajima? :unsure:Ja ih nikad nisam voleo, samo sam vadio igračke a onu gnjecavu čokoladicu ostavljao braći/sestrama, kao da sam znao da postoji neki risk factor.

Problem je sto mala deca kao mogu da se zadave delicima igracke, a i sto po americkom zakonu ne smes da meces nesto sto nije hrana unutar hrane.

[Anduril]

sa tvojom pricom je malo nekonzistentno to sto ovakvi stavovi isplivaju kada je na vlasti demokrata, a ne republikanac, no dobro

Pa opet ne cudi - republikanci jesu big government ali se bar trude da slazu ili udovolje small government fanovima dok demokrate jesu big government i jos se ponose time.Zato je Klinton i tako zavukao republikancima kad je odjednom postao fiskal conservative i small government/balanced budget posle debakla 1994.

[Turnbull]

Opasno im je zavukao. Prebacio je ideološku ravnotežu toliko u desno, da je jebeni health care bill viđen kao komunizam.

[Prospero]

ne znam da li je biloThe Greeley Tribune, Jim Rydbom/Associated Press - This April 26, 2013, photo shows a billboard in Greeley, Colo. in which images of Native Americans are used to make a gun rights argument. The two billboards are causing a stir with some residents who say the image is offensive and insensitive.

[Turnbull]

Besramno.

[WTF]

добро сам се наоружао, чекам да куцне час, зора доноси револуцију

Ja sam se pak naoruzao da imam da se branim od tih sto bi da se bore protiv "tiranije" i da dizu revolucije. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Indy]

Printed weapon triggers gun control concern

[mlatko]

nadam se da su obesili na web i uputstvo za mass-production

[Prospero]

loodiloGuns Allowed In Some Pennsylvania State Schools Amid ReviewBy MICHAEL RUBINKAM 05/11/13 03:05 AM ET EDT Gun Control, Edinboro University, Kutztown University, Millersville University, Pennsylvania State System Of Higher Education, Shippensburg University, Slippery Rock University, Gun Violence, Guns, Guns In Schools, Pennsylvania, Politics NewsKUTZTOWN, Pa. -- Students on some of Pennsylvania's college campuses might be carrying more than books.At least five Pennsylvania state-owned universities are now allowing guns on campus after the state's lawyers concluded that an outright ban on weapons was likely unconstitutional.Kutztown, Shippensburg, Edinboro, Slippery Rock and Millersville universities have all quietly changed their policies over the past year to reflect the advice of lawyers in the governor's office and the Pennsylvania State System of Higher Education. Students in those schools are now allowed to have weapons on campus, though they are still generally banned from school buildings and athletic events.Students with concealed-carry permits had questioned the constitutionality of blanket weapons bans at state-owned universities, prompting a legal review that found such bans were vulnerable to court challenge.Pennsylvania is among 23 states that allow individual colleges or universities to decide if they'll ban concealed weapons on campus, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Twenty-two states ban concealed weapons and five – Colorado, Mississippi, Oregon, Utah and Wisconsin – allow firearms on public university campuses.Kutztown changed its policy April 19, though it had largely escaped notice until Kutztown President F. Javier Cevallos emailed students, faculty and staff about it Thursday night.Under the new policy, licensed gun owners are permitted to bring their weapons onto campus, but not into buildings or athletic events without permission from the university police chief. The chief will consider making an exception if there is a "compelling reason" related to personal safety, the policy says.Kutztown is not endorsing weapons on campus, spokesman Matt Santos said Friday."Our president does not believe that guns have a place on campus," he said. "We will do what we can to keep our campus free of weapons and have written the policy to keep it as strong as possible to keep weapons away from buildings and campus events. We believe we provide a very safe environment for students to learn and live."Although there has been no legal challenge mounted in Pennsylvania, the state's lawyers cautioned that "blanket firearms bans were vulnerable to constitutional challenge and exposed the universities" to legal claims, said Nils Hagen-Frederiksen, a spokesman for the governor's Office of General Counsel.About a year ago, the state system provided a model weapons policy for consideration by all 14 schools "that more narrowly tailored the firearms restriction, addressing both public safety and constitutional concerns," Hagen-Frederiksen said.Pennsylvania's concealed-carry law is silent on the issue of guns on college campuses. Other state laws do prohibit firearms in K-12 schools and court facilities, but there is no statute banning firearms possession at state-owned universities.Thus "an outright weapons ban on public college campuses may be a problem under Pennsylvania law," Michael Moreland, a vice dean and professor at Villanova University's law school, said via email.Last year, he noted, the Colorado Supreme Court struck down the University of Colorado's ban, ruling it violated the state's concealed-carry law.The new university weapons policies seemed unlikely to turn Pennsylvania's campuses into armed camps. At Kutztown, gun owners are generally limited to wandering the campus with their firearms, locking them in their cars, or checking them in at the police department.Still, as word of the new policy spread across campus Friday, students debated whether it's a good idea to allow weapons."It promotes violence. You have lethal weapons on campus in a place where we're supposed to get a higher education, not carry bullets and guns and be prepared to kill someone. It's bizarre to me," said James Alexander, 21, a political science major from Pottstown.But another student raised the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre, in which a gunman killed 32 students before committing suicide, to argue in favor of a well-armed student body."It could potentially have been stopped," said Tony Pavoncello, 20, a freshman from York. "If one or more students had been armed and had been there when he came in the door, you never know what might have happened. It might have changed something."Pennsylvania's largest university, Penn State, bans all weapons from campus, though students who hunt or shoot recreationally are permitted to store them with police. Penn State receives a state appropriation each year but is not owned by the state. The University of Pittsburgh – likewise state-supported but not state-run – also prohibits weapons anywhere on campus."Our feeling is that police, who are trained in handling firearms, shooting accuracy during stressful situations and in making quick decisions and judgments, should be the ones with weapons," Penn State spokeswoman Lisa Powers said via email Friday. "They are the experts."Gun-rights advocates including Students for Concealed Carry – a group launched in the wake of Virginia Tech _maintain that an armed campus is a safer campus because police typically can't respond quickly enough to stop a mass shooter in the act.A campus police chiefs' association, the International Association of Campus Law Enforcement Administrators, takes an opposing view. Its board has declared that allowing guns on campus could "dramatically increase violence."Although Kutztown changed its rules just a few weeks ago, the Pennsylvania State System of Higher Education appeared to be having second thoughts Friday, telling all 14 member schools to hold off on weapons policy changes until a task force on campus safety can weigh in."Given the importance of this issue, the significance of this issue, we think it's a good idea to take a second look," state system spokesman Kenn Marshall said.

[Indy]

To je jedna od stvari koje nikad necemo razumeti: teorije struna, prvih pet minuta po big bangu, postanak vrsta, americku ljubav ka oruzju... ja odustao, zivot je suvise kratak.

Edited May 12, 2013 by Indy

[Turnbull]

Shooting Our Way to Safety Charles Simic

Private citizens training for a volunteer police force in Sun City, Arizona, 1992

David Hurn/Magnum Photos

“How many Bostonians wished they had a gun two weeks ago?” Wayne LaPierre asked the rapt crowd at the NRA National Convention in Houston earlier this month. The huge audience of firearm enthusiasts, who call themselves “freedom’s biggest army, its greatest and brightest hope,” clapped in approval, their eyes having been just opened to how differently things would have turned out had the four million Bostonians and the marathon runners all been packing heat and had drawn their weapons and opened fire at the first sound of explosion. “How many other Americans now ponder that life-or-death question?” he thundered.At whom exactly they’d have shot, in that moment and during the next three days, as the hunt for the elusive bombers went on, didn’t seem to worry them. Their spirits rose with sudden hope that the inhabitants of Boston and other American cities and towns who ordinarily cringe at the thought of long lines at gun shows and regard with suspicion people who stockpile firearms and ammunition might finally come to their senses and arm themselves to their teeth. As speaker after speaker at the convention made clear, the crowning achievement of our Founding Fathers was the right to bear arms, in comparison to which every other right guaranteed in the Constitution takes second place. This is how LaPierre describes the Second Amendment’s history and intent:

We come from that line of patriots who broke from King George to live their own lives as free people. And nowhere does freedom live more than in our Second Amendment right to own a firearm to defend ourselves, our families and our nation. Without that freedom, we aren’t really free at all.…More Americans today than ever before understand the principle of the Second Amendment, the freedom it gives us as individuals to be responsible for our own safety, protection and survival. Imagine living in a large metropolitan area where lawful firearms ownership is heavily regulated and discouraged. Imagine waking up to a phone call from the police, warning that a terrorist event is occurring outside and ordering you to stay inside your home. I’m talking, of course, about Boston. Where residents were imprisoned behind the locked doors of their homes—a terrorist with bombs and guns just outside. Frightened citizens, sheltered in place, with no means to defend themselves or their families from whatever may come crashing through the door.

In other words, it’s not our police and our military that will protect us from terrorists, intruders into our homes and whoever else intends us harm, but fellow citizens wielding their guns. Forget about calling 911. Just be sure you have a weapon with plenty of fire power that can outgun bad guys, and if you need to, cops and “jackbooted thugs,” as government agents are called in NRA circles, should they attempt to break into your home and confiscate your arsenal. No mention, of course, in his speech about who was in fact responsible for identifying the two bombers and then killing one and arresting the other.Following on the premise that the more guns a person owns, the safer he and his family are going to be, the nation LaPierre and his supporters envision is one in which law enforcement would be supplanted by vigilantes in our communities. Given that there are three people killed and almost seven shot by a gun every hour in the United States, making it as easy to buy a gun as chewing gum or candy would not only make us less safe but would accelerate the end of any semblance of civil society and return us to barbarism.All the specious arguments we hear about our Second Amendment rights to arm ourselves—with not only hunting rifles but also military-style murder weapons and even hollow-point rounds that are banned in warfare under the Geneva Convention and even the Hague Convention of 1899 before it—were debunked more than twenty years ago by former Chief Justice Warren Burger, a conservative Republican who called them “one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word ‘fraud,’ on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.” Nevertheless, the gun-rights arguments are taken seriously by millions of Americans and our media, who either believe or pretend to believe that these are principled and sincere efforts by men and women of integrity to safeguard the freedoms given to us by the Founders of this nation.Nothing could be further from the truth. Any discussion about the influence of the NRA and other gun lobbies ought to make it clear that their chief mission is to drum up business for the 1,200 gun makers in this country. Guns, as even half-wits ought to realize, are manufactured not by freedom-loving patriots, but by people for whom private profit outweighs public good. That is why they are against the background checks that 90 percent of Americans say they want. Preventing criminals and mentally ill people from buying guns would cut into their earnings. Knowing that sales of guns go up and their coffers fill up after every mass shooting in the news, the manufactures hire mountebanks like LaPierre to appeal to the fears, hatreds, and ignorance of gullible Americans and make certain that no restrictions are in place. And some in Congress go a good deal further even than he: Senator Rand Paul recently warned his constituents that “Obama and his anti-gun pals” are conniving with the United Nations in a secret “plot against the Constitution.” As the recent defeat of a modest proposal for background checks in the Senate reminded us, in the United States today the wishes of gun manufacturers take precedence over the wishes of the people.The only hindrance that I can see to their dream of unlimited proliferation of weapons in private hands is our growing surveillance state. Since snooping on our phone calls, emails and movements no longer presents any legal or technological obstacle for the government, will it someday be able to monitor the 310 million firearms already in circulation and the many more to come?One doesn’t need to be a prophet to predict that sooner or later some of these guns will be used to settle political differences in our already extraordinarily polarized country. As someone who by the age of six was used to hearing gun shots, explosions, and screams and to seeing dead and wounded people during World War II, the German occupation, and the civil war in Yugoslavia, I learned early that the primary purpose of a weapon is to kill people. Anyone who tells you that having a lot of them around will make us safer is either out to make money out of dead children or living in a fool’s paradise.May 15, 2013, 1:06 p.m.

[April]

Nepoznati Island Island - društvo bez klasaNakon razgovora sa profesorima, pravnicima, novinarima i običnim građanima u ovoj nordijskoj zemlji, Klark je došao do nekih opštih zaključaka koji po njegovom mišljenju objašnjavaju ovaj fenomen.Prvo što mu je palo u oči - a po svoj prilici i najvažnije - bilo je da u zemlji praktično nema razlika između više, srednje i niže klase, a time ni napetosti u odnosima između ekonomskih klasa, što je retka pojava u svetu.U studiji klasnog sistema na Islandu koju je izradio Univerzitet Misrija, samo 1,1% ispitanika izjasnio se da pripada višoj klasi, a 1,5% nižoj, dok preostalih 97% sebe doživljava kao pripadnike više ili niže srednje klase, ili radničke klase.Bivši predsednik poslaničkog kluba socijaldemokratske alijanse u islandskom Paralmentu, Bjorgvin Sigurdson, slaže se - kao i većina Islanđana - da ovaj osećaj jednakosti predstavlja ključni uzrok relativnog nepostojanja kriminala u zemlji.Sigurdson s ponosom ističe da u njegovoj zemlji dete tajkuna može da pohađa istu školu kao i obična deca, i dodaje da sistem socijalne zaštite i obrazovni sistem zemlje neguju i unapređuju ovu kulturu jednakosti.

[Indy]

Hm, a koja je tacno veza s temom?

[Lezilebovich]

Island je prosto preplavljen vatrenim oružjem - ima 90.000 legalno registrovanih komada vatrenog oružja na 300.000 stanovnika, po čemu je 15. u svetu. U isto vreme, ova zemlja ima i najnižu stopu nasilja u svetu - samo 1 ubistvo na 100.000 stanovnika godišnje