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koja vest :lolol:  mukice, kako znaju geografiju kada im je potrebno i kako ne znaju geografiju kada im je potrebno :fantom:

 

uzgred napisano, otete osobe nisu diplomate vec tehnicka lica, sofer ambasade i vezistkinja/sifrantkinja

 

meni je naludji dziberaj komunikacije u tabloidima izmedju ambasadora potezice i mip-a tj. resornog ministra, nema bolje ilustracije stanja srpske diplomatije i njenih kadrova

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Kurdske Pešmerge jutros zauzele Sindžar u Iraku, mesto u kojem je IS izvršio pogrom nad Jazidima. Osim toga, presečen je i put između Rake i Mosula, i Pešmerge napreduju na jug prema mestu Baaj, tako da je IS na severu Iraka praktično odsečen od ostatka teritorije pod njihovom kontrolom (ako gledamo putne pravce).

 

Južnije, iračka vojska i šiitske milicije vode borbe u dolini Eufrata, kod Hadite su imale i određene uspehe protiv IS.

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uzgred napisano, otete osobe nisu diplomate vec tehnicka lica, sofer ambasade i vezistkinja/sifrantkinja

 

Ovi ljudi su i dalje oteti? Nikakva nova informacija?

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U zemlji se sprema drzavni udar a ti bi da pricas o soferu i sekretarici? Nije to lepo od tebe...

 

TT via LG G3

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Ovi ljudi su i dalje oteti? Nikakva nova informacija?

 

nikakva nova informacija, jednostavno, boli qrac ikoga u drzavnim strukturama za to dvoje ljudi

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sudeci po nacinu na koji se izvestava o njima (otmica Srba trebalo je, po svim zakonima medija, da bude prvorazredna medijska senzacija), rekao bih da su urednici redom zamoljeni da ne talasaju suvise o ovome, jer su u toku osetljivi pregovori i ne treba "dizati cenu" tim ljudima i praviti od njih zvezde.

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glupi zapadnjaci. kada otmu njihove drzavljane onda njihovi mediji talasaju ne do neba nego do granica poznatog svemira i tako dizu cenu otetim ljudima i od njih prave zvezde.

 

mada, dirljiva je tvoja racionalizacija i ljudska potreba da verujes da u ovoj zemlji ima makar malo razuma i odgovornog ponasanja, pre ce biti da tzv. drzavi puca prsluk za otete + sto unapred minimiziraju stetu ukoliko oteti stradaju, to ce biti vest negde u zapeku medijskog prostora a udarne vesti ce biti neka farma, neki kristijan, cerecenje neke licnosti po slobodnom izboru, neka zavera i drzavni udar, nesto

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Ponekad talasaju, a ponekad uvode prakticno mere cenzure kako ne bi ugrozili pregovore. Ovo ti je samo jedan primer, imas ih mnogo.

 

Colin Freeman, chief foreign correspondent for the Sunday Telegraph, who was once kidnapped in Somalia, says blackout requests generally come from the hostage negotiation teams rather than government.

The most obvious reason, he says, is that a huge publicity campaign to free a hostage can "backfire by convincing the kidnappers that they have a very high value prize, who should not be lightly released".

 

 

Ponovicu da mi tisina medija izgleda vestacki. Lako je zamisliti da je neko zamolio urednike da ne pisu bas svakog dana o ovome. Taj neko uopste ne mora biti predstavnik vlasti.

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slazem se ja sa tobom da je tisina medija vestacka samo se ne slazemo oko motiva za uvodjenje te medijske tisine :)

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Videcemo.

 

Moja pretpostavka je da su porodice nekako nakrpile pare za otkup, da su u toku razgovori (pri tome uopste ne mislim da je ova drzava kao takva koristan agens u tom procesu, ali da unutar drzavnog sistema jos uvek rade poneki ljudi sa bezbednosnim iskustvom i znanjem koje umeju da primene na ovakve situacije. a na kraju krajeva, oni mozda deluju i mimo drzavnog okvira) i da cemo ove ljude u nekom trenutku videti zive u Srbiji.

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porodica sofera ambasade i porodica vezistkinje/sifrantkinje nakupile pare za otkup? ma, da.

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Dobro, nisu namakli. 

 

Izneo sam pretpostavku na osnovu ovoga što vidim. Možda sam u pravu, možda i nisam, ne mogu dalje da spekulišem na osnovu skoro ničega.

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pa to da, nema nicega u smislu vesti ali kako ima vesti o stanju naseg mip-a i ostalih institucija ove drzave, neke spekulacije su ipak moguce

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Emirates Secretly Sends Colombian Mercenaries to Fight in Yemen

 

 

WASHINGTON — The United Arab Emirates has secretly dispatched hundreds of Colombian mercenaries to Yemen to fight in that country’s raging conflict, adding a volatile new element in a complex proxy war that has drawn in the United States and Iran.

 

It is the first combat deployment for a foreign army that the Emirates has quietly built in the desert over the past five years, according to several people currently or formerly involved with the project. The program was once managed by a private company connected to Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater Worldwide, but the people involved in the effort said that his role ended several years ago and that it has since been run by the Emirati military.

 

The arrival in Yemen of 450 Latin American troops — among them are also Panamanian, Salvadoran and Chilean soldiers — adds to the chaotic stew of government armies, armed tribes, terrorist networks and Yemeni militias currently at war in the country. Earlier this year, a coalition of countries led by Saudi Arabia, including the United States, began a military campaign in Yemen against Houthi rebels who have pushed the Yemeni government out of the capital, Sana.

 

It is also a glimpse into the future of war. Wealthy Arab nations, particularly Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the Emirates, have in recent years embraced a more aggressive military strategy throughout the Middle East, trying to rein in the chaos unleashed by the Arab revolutions that began in late 2010. But these countries wade into the new conflicts — whether in Yemen, Syria or Libya — with militaries that are unused to sustained warfare and populations with generally little interest in military service.

 

“Mercenaries are an attractive option for rich countries who wish to wage war yet whose citizens may not want to fight,” said Sean McFate, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council and author of “The Modern Mercenary.”

 

“The private military industry is global now,” said Mr. McFate, adding that the United States essentially “legitimized” the industry with its heavy reliance on contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan over more than a decade of war. “Latin American mercenaries are a sign of what’s to come,” he said.

 

The Colombian troops now in Yemen, handpicked from a brigade of some 1,800 Latin American soldiers training at an Emirati military base, were woken up in the middle of the night for their deployment to Yemen last month. They were ushered out of their barracks as their bunkmates continued sleeping, and were later issued dog tags and ranks in the Emirati military. Those left behind are now being trained to use grenade launchers and armored vehicles that Emirati troops are currently using in Yemen.

 

Emirati officials have made a point of recruiting Colombian troops over other Latin American soldiers because they consider the Colombians more battle tested in guerrilla warfare, having spent decades battling gunmen of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, in the jungles of Colombia.

 

The exact mission of the Colombians in Yemen is unclear, and one person involved in the project said it could be weeks before they saw regular combat. They join hundreds of Sudanese soldiers whom Saudi Arabia has recruited to fight there as part of the coalition.

 

In addition, a recent United Nations report cited claims that some 400 Eritrean troops might be embedded with the Emirati soldiers in Yemen — something that, if true, could violate a United Nations resolution restricting Eritrean military activities.

 

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