Prospero Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 Meni sve ovo miriše na ponavljanje 8. veka Hoće li imati ko da brani staru Jevropu na Katalaunskim poljima 21. veka? by TT
Roger Sanchez Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 Meni sve ovo miriše na ponavljanje 8. veka Hoće li imati ko da brani staru Jevropu na Katalaunskim poljima 21. veka? by TT Misliš valjda u Poitiersu 21. vijeka, bruko jedna od istorćara.
Gandalf Posted August 24, 2014 Author Posted August 24, 2014 U Libiji je eskaliralo kada je Heftar pokusao vojni udar. Valjda je pomislio da bi mogao da bude libijska varijanta Sisija, sta li. Sa druge strane, verovatno su tamosnji islamisti malkice paranoicni nakon onoga sto se desilo u Egiptu.
Lord Protector Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) Kakvo je sada stanje u Tunisu, Alžiru, Maroku, Jordanu? Koliko je tamo politička situacija stabilna, da li i tamo može doći do nekog haosa nalik na ovom u Libiji i Siriji? Meni se čini da će ovaj požar da se rasplamsa na sve strane i da je pred nama kriza ogromnih razmera... nađoh nešto za Maroko Morocco today remains one of only a handful of continuously stable countries in the Middle East and North Africa, ruled by what many would describe as a strong and widely popular monarchy. In a region that has experienced sustained political turmoil since protests erupted in Tunisia in December 2010, the US has a continued interest in deepening and broadening its existing security partnership with the country, as a key tool for furthering US foreign-policy interests in and countering regional security threats emanating from neighbouring states in North Africa and the nearby Sahel. The visit by US Secretary of State John Kerry to Morocco to meet his counterpart, Salaheddine Mezouar, and Moroccan King Mohammed VI in April offered an important opportunity to discuss ways to further advance the historic strategic partnership between the two countries. This, in turn, could help foster the continuance of Morocco’s stability over the longer term. Edited August 24, 2014 by slow
Lord Protector Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) Sunce ti kurir Edited August 25, 2014 by luba
iDemo Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 Sunce ti [kurir] Ove ko pomaze ili sa njima trguje da bog da mu zakucali na vrata kad im zafali za gorivo...
Аврам Гојић Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) ... Edited August 25, 2014 by Грешни Василије
Аврам Гојић Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) evo editovao sam. ja barem nisam toliko damaged goods da koristim priču o tuđim ratovima da pokažem koliko sam jebeno kul. iskreno, nisam od tebe očekivao ovu vrstu nezdrave ironije. Edited August 25, 2014 by Грешни Василије
x500 Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 Kakvo je sada stanje u Tunisu, Alžiru, Maroku, Jordanu? Koliko je tamo politička situacija stabilna, da li i tamo može doći do nekog haosa nalik na ovom u Libiji i Siriji? Meni se čini da će ovaj požar da se rasplamsa na sve strane i da je pred nama kriza ogromnih razmera... nađoh nešto za Maroko Slow, Bio sam (pre 4 nedelje) u Amanu poslednje nedelje posta i situacija je bila sasvim OK. Mislim da nece doci do sukoba u Jordanu. Pozdrav, X500
steins Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 evo editovao sam. ja barem nisam toliko damaged goods da koristim priču o tuđim ratovima da pokažem koliko sam jebeno kul. iskreno, nisam od tebe očekivao ovu vrstu nezdrave ironije. Jebote bro koji ti je vrag, samo te malo zezam, što si zapet ko puška?
Roger Sanchez Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 Cinkaju ih Ameri sve u 16! Egypt and United Arab Emirates Said to Have Secretly Carried Out Libya Airstrikes By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK and ERIC SCHMITTAUG. 25, 2014 CAIRO — Twice in the last seven days, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates have secretly teamed up to launch airstrikes against Islamist-allied militias battling for control of Tripoli, Libya, four senior American officials said, in a major escalation between the supporters and opponents of political Islam.The United States, the officials said, was caught by surprise: Egypt and the Emirates, both close allies and military partners, acted without informing Washington or seeking its consent, leaving the Obama administration on the sidelines. Egyptian officials explicitly denied the operation to American diplomats, the officials said.The strikes are the most high-profile and high-risk salvo unleashed in a struggle for power that has broken out across the region in the aftermath of the Arab Spring revolts, pitting old-line Arab autocrats against Islamists. Since the military ouster of the Islamist president in Egypt one year ago, the new Egyptian government, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have formed a bloc exerting influence in countries around the region to rollback what they see as a competing threat from Islamists. Arrayed against them are the Islamist movements, including the Muslim Brotherhood, backed by friendly governments in Turkey and Qatar, that sprang forward amid the Arab spring revolts.Libya is the latest, and hottest, battleground. Several officials said that United States diplomats were fuming about the airstrikes, believing they could further inflame the Libyan conflict at a time when the United Nations and Western powers are seeking a peaceful resolution.“We don’t see this as constructive at all,” said one senior American official.Officials said that the government of Qatar has already provided weapons and support to the Islamist aligned forces inside Libya, so the new strikes represent a shift from proxy wars —where regional powers playout their agendas through local allies —to direct involvement.The strikes have also proved counterproductive so-far: the Islamist militias fighting for control of Tripoli successfully seized its airport the night after they were hit with the second round of strikes.American officials said Egypt had provided bases for the launch of the strikes. President Abdel-Fattah el-Sisi of Egypt and other officials have issued vigorous but carefully worded public statements denying any direct involvement inside Libya by Egyptian forces. In private, officials said, their denials had been more thorough.The officials said that the U.A.E. — believed to have one of the most effective air forces in the region, thanks to American aid and training — provided the pilots, warplanes, and aerial refueling planes necessary for the fighters to bomb Tripoli out of bases in Egypt.The U.A.E. has not commented directly on the strikes. But on Monday an Emirati state newspaper printed a statement from Anwar Gargash, minister of state for foreign affairs, calling questions about an Emirati role “an escape” from the recent election that he suggested showed a desire for “stability” and a rejection of the Islamists. The allegations about the U.A.E. role, he said, came from a group who “wanted to use the cloak of religion to achieve its political objectives,” and “the people discovered its lies and failures.”The first strikes occurred before dawn a week ago, hitting positions in Tripoli controlled by Islamist-friendly militias, blowing up a small weapons depot, and killing six people.A second set of airstrikes took place south of the city early on Saturday, hitting rocket launchers, military vehicles, and a warehouse all controlled by Islamist-allied militia.The second strike might have been motivated by a desire to prevent an imminent capture of the Tripoli airport by Islamist aligned militia, many of whom are based in the coastal city of Misurata and more tribal than Islamist in orientation. It had previously been held by militias based in Zintan and aligned against the Islamists. But after besieging the airport for a month, the Islamist aligned forces overtook it that night.Responsibility for the airstrikes was initially a mystery. After the first set, several American officials initially said that signs pointed to the United Arab Emirates, but some said that the evidence was not conclusive.Anti-Islamist forces based in eastern Libya under the renegade former general Khalifa Hifter sought to claim responsibility, but their statements were inconsistent and the strikes were beyond their known capabilities.A former Qaddafi official now consulting with the Emirates, meanwhile, argued on the condition of anonymity that the strikes must be the work of the United States, contending that the Western powers had sought to deter the danger posed by Libya’s Islamists.On Monday, however, American officials said that the second set of strikes had provided enough evidence to conclude that the Emirates were responsible, even provided the refueling ships necessary for fighters to reach Tripoli from Egypt.The officials said this was not the first time that the Egyptians and Emirates had teamed up to strike against Islamist targets inside Egypt. In recent months, a special forces team operating out of Egypt but possibly composed primarily of Emirates personnel had also successfully destroyed an Islamist camp in eastern Libya without detection.American officials said the success of that earlier raid may have emboldened Egypt and the U.A.E. to think they could carry off the airstrikes without detection. Or the brazenness of the attack may reflect the vehemence of their determination to hold back or stamp out political Islam.
Bane5 Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 IS je, kao sto se ocekivalo, brutalno pocitio sve tri preostale baze snaga odanih Asadu u Raki (Sirija). Poslednja u nizu je bila baza i aerodrom u Tabki (Tabaki). Ostaje da vidimo u kom pravcu ce nastaviti. Sasvim je sigurno da su im apetiti ogromni.
Zaz_pi Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Nece biti. Iz baze Tabka su se povukli prethodno se desilo ovo: Tokom prethodnih par dana je pokusao ISIS nekoliko puta da zauzme bazu ali nije uspeo. Evo kako su izgledale nocne borbe oko baze: Onda je komanda SAA donela odluku da spali konvoje ISISa i izvuce ljude iz okruzenja. Kamo lepe srece da su to uradili sa onom bazom kod Raqqa, umesto sto su drzali ljude skoro dve godine u okruzenju, bez ikakvih mogucnosti da nesto naprave izvan baze, i na kraju su ljudi izginuli. Sada se to nije ponovilo. Danas je RV SAA przio ISIS kod Tabke. Edited August 25, 2014 by Zaz_pi
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