Peti oktobar na bliskom istoku i arapskom svetu

[Bane5]

Gde je sad Fida'i kad se Tahrir opet budi ili su i to uzurpatori revolucije...Tens of thousands of protesters have massed in Tahrir Square in the Egyptian capital, Cairo, to demonstrate against continuing military rule.Za to vreme u Bahreinu CNN-ov Fred Pleitgen nekako iskamcio 3-dnevnu vizu, ali ne i produzetak iste pa nece moci da prati trku F1 koja je u senci sukoba demonstranata i policije.http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2012/04/19/pleitgen-bahrain-riot-police.cnn

[Fida'i]

Gde je sad Fida'i kad se Tahrir opet budi ili su i to uzurpatori revolucije...Tens of thousands of protesters have massed in Tahrir Square in the Egyptian capital, Cairo, to demonstrate against continuing military rule.Za to vreme u Bahreinu CNN-ov Fred Pleitgen nekako iskamcio 3-dnevnu vizu, ali ne i produzetak iste pa nece moci da prati trku F1 koja je u senci sukoba demonstranata i policije.http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2012/04/19/pleitgen-bahrain-riot-police.cnn

Već godinu dana (gotovo neprekidno) su na Tahriru masovne demonstracije koje predvodi revolucionarna levica. Sada su se priključili i liberali i islamisti, ali seti se sramnog ćutanja Ikhwan tokom novembarskog masakra (na kraju jeste bila neka mlaka osuda). Što se tiče Bahreina, Latuf je to najbolje prikazao.

[zorglub]

Link?

[Tutankamon]

Ako mene pitaš nedam, bolje ti je da ne gledaš veruj mi...i sam se kajem

[steins]

Egipatskim muževima uskoro bi moglo biti dozvoljeno da polno opšte sa svojim preminulim suprugama - i to do šest sati nakon što je smrt nastupila. Nek cveta hiljadu cvetova.

[Budja]

Egipatskim muževima uskoro bi moglo biti dozvoljeno da polno opšte sa svojim preminulim suprugama - i to do šest sati nakon što je smrt nastupila. Nek cveta hiljadu cvetova.

Izvor: BlicA Blic je to verovatno preuzeo od Daily Mail-a ili tako nekog.

[Аврам Гојић]

Bas od Daily Maila, a nego od koga ce. ultra pouzdan izvor informacija.inace prica je potpuna izmisljotina, da ne kazem da smatram dosta cudnim da neko veruje da bi bilo koja velika verska grupa na svetu, pod bilo kojim okolnostima, dosla na ovakvu ideju. to je ravno prici da su svi Srbi monstumi i siledzije, pa i dosta gore od toga.

Edited April 28, 2012 by Marko M. Dabovic

[Gandalf]

btw, predsednicki izbori bi mogli biti daleko interesantniji od parlamentarnih. tri jaka kandidata: Musa (populista, kameleon, ima podrsku vojske), Morsi (MB, najjaca organizacija), i Abu Fotuh (delovao najtanji i bez sanse, ali bi mogao ispasti na vrhu)politika je cudo, salafi podrzavaju najliberalnijeg kandidata.

Why Al-Nour Chose Abul-Fotouh? I don't know.According to news outlets, the Salafi party voted by more than 80% internally to support the considerably much more liberal Abdel-Mon'eim Abul Fotouh, with around 15% going to the MB/FJPs Mohammed Morsy, and less than 3% going to Selim El-Awwa. The votes took place on three levels, according to a journalist calling Television host Amr Adeeb. Al Nour's MPs, said the journalist, had a poll amongst them, the Salafi Call Council voted amongst itself, and the High Committee of Al-Nour also had a vote. All three votes chose Abul-Fotouh with margins crossing 75%. That same journalist said that El-Awwa and Morsi actually attended the announcement of the results of the votes, while Abul-Fotouh didn't.

Edited April 29, 2012 by Gandalf

[Gandalf]

sto se tice nekrofilije...

The chances of any such piece of legislation being considered by the Egyptian parliament for a vote is zero. And the chance of it ever passing is less than that....There was a Moroccan cleric a few years back who apparently did issue a religious ruling saying that husbands remained married to their wives in the first six hours after death and, so, well, you know. But that guy is far, far out on the nutty fringe. How fringe? He also ruled that pregnant women can drink alcohol. Remember, alcohol is considered haram, forbidden, by the vast majority of the world's Muslim scholars.

[hazard]

Islamic Revolution 2.0 here we comehttp://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/NE01Dj06.html

Egypt is in a classic pre-revolutionary situation that favors the firebrand Muslim Brotherhood and its desire to seize all the reins of power it is now grabbing from the country's disintegrating military rulers. The Brotherhood thrives on chaos that has put essential services under pressure, risks increasing the price of bread, and is giving Egyptians a foretaste of Somali-style horrors to come. (Apr 30, '12)

The horror and the pitaBy SpenglerEgypt's national tragedy took a turn towards farce April 27, when Saudi Arabia closed its embassy and several consulates after demonstrations that "threaten the security and safety of Saudi and Egyptian employees, raising hostile slogans and violating the inviolability and sovereignty", according to a Saudi statement. Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States were supposed to anchor an international aid package that will forestall a disorderly financial crisis.With a critical fuel shortage cutting into food supplies and essential services, Egyptians already have a foretaste of chaos. The two-for-a-penny pita, the subsidized flat bread that provides much of the caloric intake for the half of Egypt's population living on less than $2 a day, is at risk.A battle over the Muslim Brotherhood's international ambitions may push Egypt over the edge into a Somali level of horror. I warned in this space on April 11 [1] that the Muslim Brotherhood thinks that it can thrive on chaos. The anti-Saudi demonstrations support this interpretation of the Brotherhood's actions.The anti-Saudi demonstrations began after a Saudi court sentenced an Egyptian lawyer, Ahmed el-Gezawi, to a year in prison and 20 lashes for offending the Saudi monarch King Abdullah. It's not clear who started them, but Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood apparently encouraged them.The Saudis claim that Gezawi was smuggling Xanax into the kingdom. Just who started the demonstrations against Saudi embassies and consulates is unclear, but the Muslim Brotherhood is holding a net to catch the fallout. As Reuters reported April 28, The Muslim Brotherhood's political party said the protests at the Saudi embassy showed "the desire of Egyptians to preserve the dignity of their citizens in Arab states". Analysts point to the rise of the Brotherhood as a cause of Saudi concern about the direction of the post-Mubarak Egypt. As I reported April 11, [2] the Brotherhood prefers an early economic crisis to a later one, so that it can blame the disaster on the present military government. The Muslim Brotherhood's then presidential candidate Khairat al-Shater"said he realized the country's finances were precarious and a severe crunch could come by early to mid-May as the end of the fiscal year approached, but that this was the government's problem to resolve." Since then, the military-controlled elections commission has excluded al-Shater as a candidate, and the Brotherhood replaced him with Mohammed Morsi.Meanwhile, Egypt's Salafist party, the extreme Islamists, withdrew support from Mohammed Morsi and backed instead the more liberal Islamist candidate, Abdel Moneim Aboul Fotouh, often described as a "defector" from the Brotherhood.Although the Salafists propose an even more extreme version of the Muslim Brotherhood's program, oil is thicker than blood in the region; the Salafists get a reported $50 million annual subsidy from the Saudis, and presumably are acting under Saudi orders.As the situation on the ground deteriorates, Egypt's military government is becoming a bystander to events. Egypt is in a classic pre-revolutionary situation, like Russia in October 1917 or German in March 1933, with a vanguard party ready to dislodge a disintegrating civil society, and replace it with totalitarian party rule at street level. The Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt's largest political party, is poised to ride to power on the back of this crisis.The International Monetary Fund (IMF) is negotiating a US$3 billion loan with the Egyptian government, with the understanding that all the major parties will support severe belt-tightening, and that the Saudis and other Gulf states will fund the loan as well as additional aid. Saudi Arabia had promised to lend Egypt $3.75 billion, but paid in only $500 million of its pledge. Last week the Saudis said that they would pay in another $1 billion. But that was before the demonstrations against their embassy.As the main opposition body to military misrule during the past six decades, the Brotherhood harbors parliamentarians as well as firebrands. But the revolutionary dynamic in Egypt favors the firebrands. As critical shortages spread through Egypt's fragile economy, Islamist street justice already is replacing the corrupt and crumbling institutions of the military regime. There is a second analogy to revolutionary Leninism, in the form of the Brotherhood's international ambitions.In effect, the Muslim Brotherhood has chosen to push the country towards chaos. "North Africa's biggest economy has imploded since a democratic uprising last year and the country will run out of money to meet basic subsidies including wheat and oil by the summer," the Daily Telegraph reported April 16. The proposed $3 billion loan from the International Monetary Fund, the newspaper added, was part of a $12 billion emergency financing package from the IMF and European Union to save the Egyptian economy from collapse. "Brussels is most worried about the popular backlash that would result from deep cuts in public spending," the Telegraph reported.The backlash, though, has been in progress for more than a year. Islamist organizations began to take control of food and fuel distribution as shortages appeared after the overthrow of president Hosni Mubarak in 2011. The first Islamist equivalent of workers' soviets, or "revolutionary committees," were formed to discipline bakeries and propane sellers who "charge more than the price prescribed by law," the Federation of Egyptian Radio and Television reported on May 3, 2011.These committees formed under the aegis of the Ministry of Solidarity and Social Justice. What has already emerged in Egypt, to use Leninist terminology, is a situation of dual power. The military government remains in command, but critical economic functions already are in the hands of Islamist parties.The Ministry of Solidarity and Social Justice began forming "revolutionary committees" to mete out street justice to bakeries, propane dealers and street vendors who "charge more than the price prescribed by law", the Federation of Egyptian Radio and Television reported on May 3, 2011. The Solidarity ministry declared that "Gangsters are in control of bread and butane prices" and "people's committees" would be formed to combat them.Fuel shortages have become critical in many parts of Egypt. UN observers report that the supply of diesel is down by 35%, and is so scarce that food supplies are threatened. According to the UN news service IRIN in an April 2 report from Cairo, "It has been three months since a fuel shortage hit Egypt, and people's patience is wearing thin amid fears the crisis could disrupt the production of subsidized bread. The government blames hoarding for the crisis. Thousands of cars queue outside petrol stations from early morning, while long queues form outside gas cylinder centers."More than a hundred Egyptian bakeries shut down in mid-April to protest the fuel shortage, the Egyptian news site Youm7.com reported April 12 [3]. In Beni Suef, dozens of bakery owners gathered in front of a government flour warehouse to complain that they could obtain fuel only at black market prices, which required them to sell bread at black market prices.Hoarding explains part of the problem. Egypt is running out of cash - its liquid foreign exchange reserves have fallen from $25 billion when Mubarak fell to only US$9 billion in March - and a devaluation of the Egyptian pound is widely expected, followed by a sharp rise in the price of imported commodities. But outright theft of exportable commodities also contributes to the shortages. Daily demand for gasoline jumped to 23 million liters from 14 million liters last September, the Egyptian General Petroleum Corporation reported, and Egyptian press reports alleged that the additional demand reflected illegal sales of gasoline to overseas buyers.It is not clear whether the government is trying to make its dwindling reserves last longer by cutting fuel imports, whether hoarding of fuel is in anticipation of a devaluation, or whether fuel supplies simply are being loaded onto tankers and sold to foreign buyers. Judging from Arab-language press reports and blogs, though, the public's perception is that corruption and incompetence have brought about an economic disaster. The military government has created a vacuum, and the Muslim Brotherhood must fill this vacuum or lose its chance to accede to power. Judging from al-Shater's opposition to an IMF loan, the Brotherhood has decided that worse is better.The military government appears to have responded to the threat from the Muslim Brotherhood indirectly, through the Electoral Commission's April 14 announcement that it had disqualified al-Shater along with nine other presidential candidates. The pretext for banning al-Shater has to do with a jail term he served under the Mubarak regime.Another Islamist candidate, Hazem Salah Aboul Ismail, was disqualified on the grounds that his mother was naturalized an American citizen. Ismail has threatened to retaliate to reveal secrets about corruption in the military government. A day before the Electoral Commission's announcement, the Muslim Brotherhood in alliance with the Salafist Front had filled Tahrir Square with demonstrators. Now the Salafists and the Brotherhood are fighting.The Saudi Crown Prince, Interior Minister Prince Nayif bin Abd al-Aziz, is a bitter enemy of the Brotherhood. "In the past Nayif has castigated the Muslim Brotherhood for their influence in Saudi Arabia, so he can be expected to look on with suspicion as the Brotherhood moves towards power in Egypt and perhaps in Syria and Tunisia," Joshua Teitelbaum wrote in a paper for the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies [4].And on April 16, Jordan's parliament passed a draft political law that would disqualify the country's branch of the Muslim Brotherhood from participation elections, effectively banning the largest opposition party to the Hashemite monarchy.The Arab monarchies fear that the ascent of the Muslim Brotherhood to power in Egypt by revolutionary means portends a further revolutionary assault on their own regimes. And the result of American failure to take decisive action to interdict the Brotherhood's march to power is likely to be greater instability and a decline of American influence in the region.Interdicting the Brotherhood, in turn, requires an uncharacteristic harshness on the part of American policy. War correspondent Peter Arnett might have concocted the notorious statement, "It became necessary to destroy the town to save it," supposedly said by an American officer of the Vietnamese provincial capital Ben Tre in 1968. Something like that might be the outcome for Egypt.

[Fida'i]

Gaddafi funding of Sarkozy election campaign: the proofThose were the days: kad je cvetalo prijateljstvo s pukovnikom.

[Gandalf]

I warned in this space on April 11 [1] that the Muslim Brotherhood thinks that it can thrive on chaos. The anti-Saudi demonstrations support this interpretation of the Brotherhood's actions.

dalje od toga ne vredi citati, Spengler ne zna nista o MBu.

[Fida'i]

Logo Islamske komunističke partije Libije.Istorija komunističkog pokreta u Libiji je veoma zanimljiva, iako nema previše materijala i uglavnom je na arapskom i italijanskom.

[Roger Sanchez]

At least two security officials have been killed after ex-rebels attacked the office of the Libyan prime minister in the capital, Tripoli.Ashur Shamis, a media adviser to Prime Minister Abdurrahim al-Keib, told the BBC that the prime minister and other officials were safe and that the fighting - which lasted several hours - had ended. Witnesses said the attack was being carried out by militia from Yafran, a town populated by members of the Berber ethnic minority located about 100km (60 miles) south-west of Tripoli. The whereabouts of Prime Minister Abdurrahim al-Keib are unknown "Many men encircled the building and opened fire against it with weapons including anti-aircraft cannons," a government employee told AFP news agency. "Some men entered the premises and fired from inside," he added. An interior ministry official said at least two security guards had been killed, and others were injured, in the ensuing battle. The BBC's Rana Jawad in Tripoli says that as well as the cash hand-outs, the rebels are demanding that those wounded in the uprising last year are given medical treatment abroad. The reward scheme was suspended last month amid allegations of fraud.

[Roger Sanchez]

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