Fida'i Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Imagine their shock, then, when Khaled al-Johani, a teacher and father of five, walked straight up to the BBC crew, and said: "The royal family don't own us! We have a right to speak." As government minders closed in on the group, he grew more emphatic: "If you speak, they will put you in jail after five minutes!" When the BBC reporter asked him what would happen to him, he replied, "I will go in the jail with a big smile - because I am already in a jail!"(Al-Johani was arrested that day, and has been in prison since March. He stood trial in a closed court on February 22; the verdict has not been made public.)" Link to comment
Fida'i Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuCJcaQRIuA&feature=player_embedded Link to comment
Zaz_pi Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Mislim da ovo moze ovde jer je povezano sa trenutnim dogadjajima Suniti-Siti, od Sirije pa nadalje: Al Qaeda In Iraq Warns Of Looming War With Shiites BAGHDAD – A spokesman for Al Qaeda in Iraq said Friday that a Sunni Muslim war against Shiites in Iraq is inevitable and threatened relentless waves of attacks like the one a day earlier that killed at least 55 people.The statement by Abu Muhammad al-Adnani, spokesman for the Al Qaeda-linked Islamic State of Iraq, tap into fears in Iraq and abroad about the country's future stability and the government's ability to protect its citizens following the withdrawal of the last U.S. troops in DecemberDespite deadly assaults against the Shiite-led government's security forces and Shiite pilgrims, there has been no indication that Iraq is returning to the sectarian bloodshed of 2006 and 2007 that pushed the nation to the brink of civil war. But Iraqis are increasingly frustrated with the government's failure to prevent attacks that continue to kill scores of Iraqis every month.In the latest attack, a series of bombings and shootings across the country on Thursday killed 55 and wounded more than 225. Al Qaeda in Iraq claimed responsibility for the attacks.In a 33-minute audio statement posted on an extremist website, al-Adnani warned of an impending "stage of real confrontation and war against the despicable (Shiites).""The war of the Sunnis with the (Shiites) is a religious war, a holy war of faith," he said, according to a translation of the remarks provided by the SITE Intelligence Group, which tracks Islamist extremist messages. "There is no way out of it and there is no swerving from it."His comments played on fears of a new surge in sectarian violence two months after the American military withdrawal from Iraq. Attacks are nowhere as frequent as they were during the tit-for-tat sectarian fighting from 2005 to 2007.Tensions between Sunni and Shiite Muslims have lingered for centuries since Islam split into the two sects after the death of the Prophet Muhammed in 632. In Iraq, the minority Sunnis have feared being politically sidelined since the overthrow of Saddam's Sunni-led regime.On Friday, an aide to Iraq's most prominent Shiite cleric, demanded that the government protect its citizens."Is there a glimmer of hope that these explosions come to an end in Iraq?" Ahmed al-Safi, an aide to Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, said during a Friday sermon in the Shiite holy city of Karbala."After a few days, when people calm down and forget, these explosions take place again. We live in the whirl of this unsolved security problem. How long will the situation last?"Claiming responsibility for Thursday's attacks, a separate Islamic State of Iraq statement said it targeted security forces and government officials to avenge what it described as executions and torture of Sunnis in government prisons.Iraq's Shiite-led government has executed at least 68 prisoners so far this year, a rate that has alarmed human rights groups. Additionally, last fall Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, a Shiite, ordered detentions of hundreds of former Saddam Hussein loyalists, most of whom were believed to be Sunni. Link to comment
Аврам Гојић Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 ti si svestan da bi unistenje "cionistickog entiteta" podrazumevalo i novi genocid nad Jevrejima? Link to comment
Fida'i Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) ti si svestan da bi unistenje "cionistickog entiteta" podrazumevalo i novi genocid nad Jevrejima?Naravno da ne bi, cionizam je kapitulacija pred antisemitizmom i refleksija istog. Hajo Meyer i Hedy Epstein su preživeli Holokaust i protive se toj rasističkoj ideologiji, a pokojni Marek Edelman, heroj Varšavskog ustanka, čitav život se suprotstavljao Izraelu. Apsurdno je da danas cionističke organizacije poput ADL govore da im je misija borba protiv antisemitizma kada je upravo razlog zbog kog je Hercl osnovao taj pokret bio zato što je smatrao antisemitizam prirodnim i opravdanim, a antisemite saveznicima cionista: njegov cilj je bio da Jevreje izoluje u jednu državu i odvoji od ostalih naroda (s druge strane je smatrao Izrael zaštitom hrišćanske Evrope od varvarskog Orijenta). Kritikovao je Zolu i francuske socijaliste zbog borbe protiv antisemitizma i pisao kako oni žele da unište društveni poredak. O svemu tome je pisao Toni Klif koji je rođen u Palestini u porodici cionista i koji je odrastao kao cionista. Nije ni čudo da je osvedočeni antisemit Artur Balfur bio autor deklaracije o osnivanju Izraela, a ključnu ulogu u sastavljanju tog dokumenta igrao je i Mark Sajks koji je o Jevrejima pisao: "...this race, despised and weak, is universal and all powerful and cannot be put down."EDIT: http://www.the-isleague.com/ Edited March 4, 2012 by Fida'i Link to comment
minka Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) To je dobra vest (cini mi se da sam pominjao jemenski scenario ranije). Steta sto se od pocetka nije vuklo na tu vodenicu. Mozda bi se ovolike zrtve izbegle. To je diplomatije koje ponovo nije bilo (slicno kao u Libiji) ali koja je relativno dobro funckionisala u Jemenu (gde je, ipak, broj zrtava bio daleko manji i u odnosu na Libiju i u odnosu na Siriju).Za svaku zemlju je daleko bolje da se diplomatski (pre eskalacije) resi spor. Svaka strana intervencija, Libija/Bahrein sve jedno, ili drzanje po strani donosi patnje. Da je to tako uverili smo se bezbroj puta (pa ako hoces tako, i na sopstvenom primeru). Edited March 5, 2012 by minka Link to comment
Bane5 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 To je dobra vest (cini mi se da sam pominjao jemenski scenario ranije). Steta sto se od pocetka nije vuklo na tu vodenicu. Mozda bi se ovolike zrtve izbegle. To je diplomatije koje ponovo nije bilo (slicno kao u Libiji) ali koja je relativno dobro funckionisala u Jemenu (gde je, ipak, broj zrtava bio daleko manji i u odnosu na Libiju i u odnosu na Siriju).Bilo je i u Libiji, ali ne dovoljno i zakasnelo. Link to comment
Fida'i Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) To je dobra vest (cini mi se da sam pominjao jemenski scenario ranije). Steta sto se od pocetka nije vuklo na tu vodenicu. Mozda bi se ovolike zrtve izbegle. To je diplomatije koje ponovo nije bilo (slicno kao u Libiji) ali koja je relativno dobro funckionisala u Jemenu (gde je, ipak, broj zrtava bio daleko manji i u odnosu na Libiju i u odnosu na Siriju)."Jemenski scenario" svakako nije nešto pozitivno: GCC je instalirao novi marionetski režim (predsednik je Salehov čovek koji je za njega ugušio pobunu na jugu, a Imperiji je drag zato što je saučesnik u prikrivenom ratu koji vode tamo) i kolonijalne sile dele zemlju. Edited March 6, 2012 by Fida'i Link to comment
Fida'i Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 So take Libya:NATO came in and overthrew the dictator. What happened next? Well, Bin Ladenite militias rule the country, Barqa wants to go its own way and the state is fragmenting, and the relative of the last king is being brought in to rule the new splinter state. Impressed? Link to comment
Bane5 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 So take Libya:NATO came in and overthrew the dictator. What happened next? Well, Bin Ladenite militias rule the country, Barqa wants to go its own way and the state is fragmenting, and the relative of the last king is being brought in to rule the new splinter state. Impressed?Ma nije moguce, tamo stotine hiljada protestuje svaki dan! Njima su ukrali revoluciju!Drz'te lopova! Cuvajte drzavu! Link to comment
zorglub Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 World War II graves smashed in Libya Link to comment
Fida'i Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Libya autonomy declaration poses threat of civil war Link to comment
Bane5 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Libya autonomy declaration poses threat of civil warNisam siguran da ce ratovati samo zbog ovoga. Stvar je u tome da ne postoji jaka sila koja cini zajednicku drzavu dok regionalnih podela ima dovoljno. Lokalni rat izmedju tih regiona moze izbiti samo zbog aspiracija prema bogatim nalazistima. Dakle, Libijska buducnost jeste mozda u labavijoj federaciji, a potencijalni sukob nikad nece izbiti zbog "jedinstva drzave" ma koliko pojedinci to potencirali.ps. Siri lokalni sukob moze biti sprecen uticajem spolja. Edited March 8, 2012 by Bane5 Link to comment
Tutankamon Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Delove Homsa još uvek drže opozicionari (oko četvrtinu), danas je zamenik ministra za Naftu prebegao (najviši zvaničnik koji je učinio isto iz vlasti) a ima i ovo Abdullah Gul has suggested he would back some form of regional military intervention Edited March 8, 2012 by Tutankamon Link to comment
Gandalf Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Libya autonomy declaration poses threat of civil warsto je babi milo... problem sa ovakvim "vestima" je sto se anti-imperijalisti iskreno nadaju potpunom haosu u Libiji. poslednja stvar koju bi zeleli je da neko pomisli da su imperijalisticke naftokrvopije u ovom slucaju odradili valjano. pupupu, daleko bilo! Edited March 8, 2012 by Gandalf Link to comment
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