Amerika, zemlja velika

[Venom]

To se zove i demokratija.

 

Zanimljivo.

[porucnik vasic]

To se zove i demokratija.

 

*edit:

 

da je poštovana izborna volja (ako ćeš tim putem) onda bi u Rusiji u tom trenutku vladali eseri, možda u kombinaciji sa kadetima, a ne boljševici koji su nakon što nisu pobedili na izborima poslali crvenogaardejce i raspustili Dumu jer im deputatski sastav nije bio po volji.

 

Komunistima u Jugoslaviji je uskraćeno pravo vlasti na lokalu (na nekoliko mesta), što je naravno problem i simptom (jedan od) represivne međuratne vlasti, ali ipak miljama daleko od gaženja demokratije koje su komunisti priređivali tamo gde su zaseli na vlast.

Молим лепо.

[kobni zelaya]

Misliš, narodna volja u Jugoslaviji i Španiji nije poštovana zbog onog što su uradili komunisti u Rusiji? To je tebi logično?

[iDemo]

Bog visoko, Amerika daleko...

[Paul]

:D

[Prospero]

Misliš, narodna volja u Jugoslaviji i Španiji nije poštovana zbog onog što su uradili komunisti u Rusiji? To je tebi logično?

 

Ne, nego kontekstualizujem stanje i problem epohe.

[Prospero]

Džizuse, nisam znao da je Saka baš ovoliko propao. Na turističkoj vizi, u ujakovom stanu koji je ko zna kako plaćen. Pomalo tužna priča:
 

EUROPE

Exile on North Seventh Street

Mikheil Saakashvili, Georgia’s Ex-President, Plots Return From Williamsburg, Brooklyn

By JASON HOROWITZ

SEPT. 19, 2014
 

 

Mikheil Saakashvili, the former president of Georgia, has made a new home for himself in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.CreditTodd Heisler/The New York Times

At the Smorgasburg food fair in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, Mikheil Saakashvili motored in fluorescent green sneakers among bearded men with tattoos and women in revealing overalls. They lined up for Cheese Pops,Dun-Well Doughnuts and other local delicacies. He ordered a coconut.

“My friend, one of the biggest sheikhs of the United Arab Emirates, gave Georgia 20,000 palm trees,” Mr. Saakasvhili, the former president of Georgia, said as he dropped a straw in the machete-opened fruit and emptied its milk with a few deep pulls. “As a personal gift.”

Mr. Saakashvili is in self-imposed exile on North Seventh Street — plotting a triumphant return, even as his steep fall from grace serves as a cautionary tale to the many American government officials who had hoped he would be a model exporter of democracy to former Soviet republics.

Since leaving office last November, this George W. Bush favorite — whose confrontation with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia led to a disastrous war in 2008 — has commandeered his uncle’s apartment in a tower on the Williamsburg waterfront, where he luxuriates in the neighborhood’s time-honored tradition of mysteriously sourced wealth. When not lingering in cafes, riding his bike across the bridge or spending stag evenings with friends on the Wythe Hotel rooftop, Mr. Saakashvili seizes on the Ukrainian conflict and his experience with Mr. Putin’s wrath as a lifeline back to political relevance.

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At Smorgasburg, on the Williamsburg waterfront. CreditTodd Heisler/The New York Times[/size]

 

“It’s the end of Putin,” Mr. Saakashvili, 46, said of Russia’s aggression in Ukraine, the topic of discussion on Thursday as its president, Petro Poroshenko, met in Washington with President Obama and Congressional leaders. Mr. Saakashvili called Mr. Putin’s actions “very, very similar” to those in Georgia. “I think he walked into trap.”

But Mr. Saakashvili, considerably plumper than when he was in power, argues that the conflict should also mark a reappraisal of his own reputation as a reckless leader whose peaceful Rose Revolution and commitment to reform were eclipsed by years of riding roughshod over opponents, bending the rule of law and provoking Mr. Putin into a war that resulted in the death, displacement and impoverishment of thousands of Georgians. “It should be revisited,” he said.

Mr. Saakashvili said that while he had a “normal life” in Brooklyn, he considered himself a big deal in Eastern Europe, pointing out that on a recent trip to Albania “they shut down traffic for us and our 20-car escort.”

Mr. Saakashvili’s personal rehabilitation project is complicated by his eroded popularity back home and charges filed against him by Georgian prosecutors on charges of human rights violations and embezzlement of government funds. He shrugs off the prosecutors as politically motivated puppets of his nemesis, the billionaire and former prime minister Bidzina Ivanishvili. Some of Mr. Saakashvili’s critics agree that the charges say as much about the current Georgian government’s hunger for revenge as they do about him.

For now Mr. Saakashvili is writing a memoir, delivering “very well-paid” speeches, helping start up a Washington-based think tank and visiting old boosters like Senator John McCain and Victoria Nuland, :0.6:  the assistant secretary of state. He said he was in the process of changing his tourist status here to a work visa and in the meantime is enjoying the bars and cafes of his adopted homeland. On his roof deck, with sweeping views of Manhattan, he has entertained David H. Petraeus, the former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, and is expecting Nicolas Sarkozy, the former French president, at the end of the month. Usually, his cousin mans the grill, along with the chef from Fabbrica, the neighboring Italian restaurant opposite a CVS. Like those chain drugstores, glassy high-rises and Eurocentric nightclubs, Mr. Saakashvili is evidence of Williamsburg’s steady transition to a playground for moneyed out-of-towners.

“I used to look at this place from Manhattan, it was such a pity, it was mafia, a place where hit men dump bodies,” he said, recalling his time in the 1990s as a Columbia University Law School student. Now he sees “a jazzy atmosphere” rife with energy and new construction.

“Williamsburg is part of the democratic transformation,” he said.

Mr. Saakashvili tends to see a lot of things through the lens of democracy building. He calls the fashionable Cafe Mogador “my absolute favorite cafe, because it’s very democratic.” And while he complains about Williamsburg’s high cost of living (“I’m not poor poor, but it really bites”), the champion of free enterprise admires the social mobility of his new neighbors.

“They are hipsters,” he said. “But they are still making tons of money, and they live a pleasant lifestyle and make it in life. They are no longer a marginal part of society.”

On one of his first nights in Williamsburg, Mr. Saakashvili waited in line with friends to get into the Wythe, but was turned away because he did not have identification. “It’s O.K.,” he said. “It’s not a posh place like in Manhattan.”

On a more recent weekend, the man the Secret Service once dubbed “the Energizer Bunny”  :ziga: charged out of the food fair and into the Artists & Fleas market, where he pulled Prada sunglasses from his graying sideburns and went straight to a booth selling clocks made from retro hardcover books. “I bought 50 of them and sent them back to my presidential library,” he said. Five months before, he said, a woman spotted Leonardo DiCaprio here.

Moments later, a Georgian living in Manhattan, Lali Lobzhanidze, approached him and asked, “Are you Mikheil Saakashvili?”

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Mr. Saakashvili in Williamsburg. CreditTodd Heisler/The New York Times[/size]

“My DiCaprio moment,” he said, delighted.

Mr. Saakashvili is frequently noticed by his countrymen, whose opinions of him vary. “He’s creating rifts in the diaspora,” said Vakhtang Gomelauri, a critic of Mr. Saakashvili who organized a 2012 protest of him at the United Nations after the revelation of rampant rapes of prisoners in Georgian prisons. But a group of Georgian students was eager to pose with him on the Bedford Street subway platform. “It went viral,” Mr. Saakashvili said.

The former president usually takes the L train into Manhattan, where he frequents Oda House in the East Village (the owner likes him, the waiter does not) and Pepela, where he orders a 2004 vintage of the dry red Georgian wine Orovela Saperavi and he recently lunched with Bill Clinton.

In his Columbia days, he lived in Astoria, Queens, with his Dutch wife, Sandra Roelofs, who worked at Cheesy Pizza before they found jobs at Manhattan law firms and moved to the Upper West Side. “Queens is like wannabe New York,” Mr. Saakashvili said. “I remember that bitterly. Williamsburg is like New York, not over-the-bridge people.” As he spoke he looked over the Williamsburg Bridge.

These days, Ms. Roelofs remains in Georgia with their younger son in a Tbilisi apartment. Their older son, Eduard, who once broke the world record for speed typing on an iPad, is at Swarthmore College in Pennsylvania.

Mr. Saakashvili said he expected a renewal of his own tenure as “senior statesmen” at Tufts, but the university said the relationship ended in May. In addition, Mr. Saakashvili said he had not pursued a position at his alma mater, Columbia, but a former professor said people close to Mr. Saakashvili had inquired about a job for him at the law school. Lincoln Mitchell, a critic of Mr. Saakashvili who was an associate professor at Columbia, said leaders of the law school had concerns. “Was he going to be indicted by an international tribunal?” Mr. Mitchell recalled their asking. “And concerns about his personal behavior.”

In August, Georgian prosecutors charged Mr. Saakasvhili with using public money to pay for, among other things, hotel expenses for a personal stylist, hotel and travel for two fashion models, Botox injections and hair removal, the rental of a yacht in Italy and the purchase of artwork by the London artist Meredith Ostrom, who makes imprints on canvases with her naked, painted body. They have also charged him in a violent crackdown on a rally of political protesters in 2007. If convicted, Mr. Saakashvili could serve up to 11 years in prison.

Mr. Saakashvili is also accused of using public money to fly his massage therapist, Dorothy Stein, into Georgia in 2009. Mr. Saakashvili said he received a massage from Ms. Stein on “one occasion only,” but Ms. Stein said she received 2,000 euros to massage him multiple times, including delivering her trademark “bite massage.”

“He gave me a bunch of presents,” said Ms. Stein, who splits her time between Berlin and Hoboken. “He said, ‘Oh, my wife won’t mind.’ He gave me a gold necklace with some kind of religious pendant, which obviously I’m not going to wear because my God is Frank Zappa.”

Mr. Saakashvili said the charges proved nothing more than that he is the target of a political witch hunt. “If you cannot find, for somebody who has been in power for nine years in a post-Soviet country, anything connected with corruption or enrichment or finding like you know businesses or offshore accounts,” he said, adding, “That makes me very proud.”

When not catching movies or plays with friends, Mr. Saakashvili considers cycling his chief pastime. “You want a picture with bike?” he asked during a lull in conversation.

Mr. Saakashvili changed into red shorts for the photo, taken opposite a coffee shop where bearded men sat on the stoop in studied ennui.

“You know there is this Hasidic area,” he said as he pedaled his bike south. “They walk around in these big hats!”

 

[Turnbull]

Potrošenko.

[Turnbull]

A mislio sam da ćeš da podvučeš i ovo.

 

My friend, one of the biggest sheikhs of the United Arab Emirates, gave Georgia 20,000 palm trees,” Mr. Saakasvhili, the former president of Georgia, said as he dropped a straw in the machete-opened fruit and emptied its milk with a few deep pulls. “As a personal gift.”

 

[Prospero]

A, to je hidden gem, 1 bambi za tebe što si uvukao A.V. u priču. :D

[Eraserhead]

"delivering her trademark “bite massage.”"

 

E jebi ga sad moram da googlam :D

[Prospero]

BTW, izgleda da se Hilari neće tek tako izvući iz fijaska oko Bengazija. Kecaće je do izbora sa tim:
 

Raymond Maxwell was Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, covering Libya. Soon after Ambassador Chris Stevens and others were killed in Benghazi, Maxwell participated in a secret Sunday session, he says, where Clinton aides Cheryl Mills and Jake Sullivan oversaw a document review with the aim to “pull out anything that might put anybody in the front office or the seventh floor in a bad light.” (“Seventh floor” is slang for the Secretary of State.)

...

Document reviews at State following a significant event are not unheard of; an affected office needs to recap how it got to where it is. Conducting such a review in secret, on a Sunday, with some of the Secretary’s most senior advisors personally overseeing things, is in fact unheard of. The details of Maxwell’s story ring true, the place, the procedures. Checks of State Department entry and exit records and room use requests should establish the basic facts. Proving what happened at that document review will be much, much harder and will focus in large part on Maxwell’s own credibility.

Is Maxwell a disgruntled employee with an agenda? Possibly, but whistleblowers act on conscience, not revenge; the cost is too high for that, and in this day revenge is available much cheaper via a leak or as an unnamed source. Going public and disgruntlement often coincide but are not necessarily causally connected. Knowing the right thing to do is easier than summoning the courage and aligning one’s life to step up and do it.

I think Ray Maxwell is credible. I don’t think his timing suggests he is not. We’ll see, paraphrasing Clinton’s own words on Benghazi, if it really matters anymore, and what difference it does make.

[namenski]

...komunizam je super kao boogeyman priča ali katastrofa kao sistem u kome mora da se živi.  ^_^

 

Bolshevism is knocking at our gates, we can't afford to let it in...We must keep America whole and safe and unspoiled. We must keep the worker away from red literature and red ruses; we must see that his mind remains healthy.

 

 

Alphonse Gabriel Capone

(1899 - 1947)

[Budja]

Džizuse, nisam znao da je Saka baš ovoliko propao. Na turističkoj vizi, u ujakovom stanu koji je ko zna kako plaćen. Pomalo tužna priča:

 

 

Uh, kako si ti to predstavio ja mislio stvarno tuzna prica.

A, ono, cova vodi boemski zivot jer tako hoce. 

Lakse nego da sprema predavanja na nekom univerzitetu, recimo Harvardu.

Uziva.

[iDemo]

Uh, kako si ti to predstavio ja mislio stvarno tuzna prica.

A, ono, cova vodi boemski zivot jer tako hoce. 

Lakse nego da sprema predavanja na nekom univerzitetu, recimo Harvardu.

Uziva.

Sasvim zasluzeno. Osim, naravno, ako neko odluci da "zeli da veruje" da je on to sve sam i na svoju ruku onomad - kad se izrodilo ono u Gruziji