mustang Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, precog said: mislim da sam vidjao te ignore liste u potpisu kod nekog, pre 5-10 godina, ispravi me ako gresim. nego, opet trolujes, ne rece za sorosa i chemtrailse. trolujes ti sa sorom i chaimtrails...ne znam samo kako si to povezao al me ni ne zanima bila sam dovoljno lepo vaspitana da u svom potpisu stavim ko mi je sve na ignore list, da ne bi dzabe trosili vreme “komunicirajuci” sa mnom. al ta faza je prevazidjena, tako da tu opciju ne koristim Edited August 27, 2020 by mustang
precog Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 pomislio sam da su, posto verujes u chemtrailse, a sorosa spominjes u svakom trecem postu, soros i chemtrailsi povezani, odnosno da je i to sorosovo maslo. ono kao okamova britva, princip ustede mentalne energije i tako to.
Gandalf Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, trustno1 said: Jes ti bio na treningu za američkog policajca? bio na treningu koje su američki panduri pružali za kosovsku policiju. prioritet u obuci je bezbednost pandura. pucanje u ekstremitete je manje efikasan način za eliminaciju pretnje, plus je veća verovatnoća promašaja. eventualna percepcija među američkim pandurima da je prosečan AA opasniji od ostalih prosečnih ima barem nekakvu podlogu u realnosti. Are black or white offenders more likely to kill police? There were 511 officers killed in felonious incidents and 540 offenders from 2004 to 2013, according to FBI reports. Among the total offenders, 52 percent were white, and 43 percent were black. ... From 1980 to 2013, there were 2,269 officers killed in felonious incidents, and 2,896 offenders. The racial breakdown of offenders over the 33-year period was on par with the 10-year period: 52 percent were white, and 41 percent were black. ... The black population in America ranged from 11.6 percent to 13 percent between 1980 to 2013. Compared to that percentage in the population, the percentage of black offenders who killed police officers appears to be disproportionately high. But blacks tend to be concentrated in the South and in cities; some large urban areas, such as Detroit, have majority African American populations. About 51 percent of police killings were in cities and counties with a population of less than 250,000. Edited August 27, 2020 by Gandalf 1
Weenie Pooh Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, ObiW said: Ma da, evo sad cemo da pricamo da je to u stvari klasni problem, hou jes nou. Nije klasni problem, crnac koji predje u srednju/visu klasu i dalje ima isti problem sa policijom kao i ranije. Citation needed, da ne kažem baš da si izvukao iz dupeta ovu nemerljivu statistiku. 1 hour ago, ObiW said: Mora da se podje od onoga sto jeste: kada te policija zaustavi, bez obzira da li je bilo pucnjave ili ne, drugacije te tretira ako si beo - to jest ne pretpostavlja a priori da si lopov. Mora da se pođe od onoga što jeste: Policija ti je puna neiživljenih wannabe vojnika koje uče da se igraju oslobađanja Faludže po pripizdincima Floride. Policija ti strelja sugrađane iz straha, iz paranoje, iz patološkog siledžijstva, iz bezbroj razloga koji se mogu svesti na psihotični power trip na nacionalnom nivou. Ovaj grafik veze nema sa rasom. Tebi i sličnim liberalima se uporno podmeće rasni motiv policijskih ubistava kako bi ostali pasivni i suštinom problema se ne bavili uopšte. "Nije problem šira slika, problem je što postoje neki zli rasisti koji streljaju sirote crnce; nama privilegovanima je u stvari sve OK, nema razloga da se previše aktiviramo." 3
trustno1 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Weenie Pooh said: Mora da se pođe od onoga što jeste: Policija ti je puna neiživljenih wannabe vojnika koje uče da se igraju oslobađanja Faludže po pripizdincima Floride. Policija ti strelja sugrađane iz straha, iz paranoje, iz patološkog siledžijstva, iz bezbroj razloga koji se mogu svesti na psihotični power trip na nacionalnom nivou. Ovaj grafik veze nema sa rasom. Tebi i sličnim liberalima se uporno podmeće rasni motiv policijskih ubistava kako bi ostali pasivni i suštinom problema se ne bavili uopšte. "Nije problem šira slika, problem je što postoje neki zli rasisti koji streljaju sirote crnce; nama privilegovanima je u stvari sve OK, nema razloga da se previše aktiviramo." Pa ne nego ima više problema. Nije sve jedan master problem. Jedan problem je rasizam, jedan je ovo što si ti rekao. Kad se pomešaju svi problemi koji postoje u policiji u Americi, jedan od ishoda je da kokaju više crnce nego belce. I to kokanje je samo manifestacija celokupnog položaja crnaca u Americi. Da su "samo" ubili nekoliko crnaca nego belaca više, ne verujem da bi se dizali protesti. To je samo najdramatičnija manifestacija činjenice da crni život u Americi vredi manje nego beli. Ne izlaze ljudi za sve na ulicu (nije ovo Francuska ), mora da im prekipi. Evo, crncima je sad prekipelo. Ja sam doživela niz nepravdi i korupcija u Americi, u pitanju su bili zdravlje, život i sloboda. Je l treba sad da izadjem na ulicu i da krenem listom da se bunim za sve to? Moraš i da živiš život. Brate. Umesto da pozdraviš što se ljudi bune protiv nepravde ti kažeš, što se ne bune i protiv ove i one nepravde. Evo da priložim i ja neke statistike: Although Black people represented 12 percent of the population in the states we studied, they made up 25 percent of the deaths in police shootings,” Miller says. By comparison, Miller says, white people represented 62 percent of the population—and made up 54 percent of the deaths in encounters with police. https://news.northeastern.edu/2020/07/16/the-research-is-clear-white-people-are-not-more-likely-than-black-people-to-be-killed-by-police/ Victims were majority white (52%) but disproportionately black (32%) with a fatality rate 2.8 times higher among blacks than whites. Most victims were reported to be armed (83%); however, black victims were more likely to be unarmed (14.8%) than white (9.4%) or Hispanic (5.8%) victims. Fatality rates among military veterans/active duty service members were 1.4 time https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/
trustno1 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Gandalf said: bio na treningu koje su američki panduri pružali za kosovsku policiju. prioritet u obuci je bezbednost pandura. pucanje u ekstremitete je manje efikasan način za eliminaciju pretnje, plus je veća verovatnoća promašaja. Respect. Ali, ostaje ovaj grafik koji je priložio Weenie Pooh gore. Da američka policija neproporcionalno više ubija nego bilo koja druga. Kako to? 1 hour ago, Gandalf said: eventualna percepcija među američkim pandurima da je prosečan AA opasniji od ostalih prosečnih ima barem nekakvu podlogu u realnosti. Are black or white offenders more likely to kill police? There were 511 officers killed in felonious incidents and 540 offenders from 2004 to 2013, according to FBI reports. Among the total offenders, 52 percent were white, and 43 percent were black. ... From 1980 to 2013, there were 2,269 officers killed in felonious incidents, and 2,896 offenders. The racial breakdown of offenders over the 33-year period was on par with the 10-year period: 52 percent were white, and 41 percent were black. ... The black population in America ranged from 11.6 percent to 13 percent between 1980 to 2013. Compared to that percentage in the population, the percentage of black offenders who killed police officers appears to be disproportionately high. But blacks tend to be concentrated in the South and in cities; some large urban areas, such as Detroit, have majority African American populations. About 51 percent of police killings were in cities and counties with a population of less than 250,000. Ok, ali pobuna je oko nenaoružanih crnaca koje je policija ubila. Mislim da se mnogo manje dovode u pitanje slučajevi kada osumnjičeni ima oružje i pravi sranja. Ovde se radi o nenaoružanim ljudima, koje je policija, recimo, ugušila nogom dok su molili za život.
Budja Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Gandalf said: bio na treningu koje su američki panduri pružali za kosovsku policiju. prioritet u obuci je bezbednost pandura. pucanje u ekstremitete je manje efikasan način za eliminaciju pretnje, plus je veća verovatnoća promašaja. eventualna percepcija među američkim pandurima da je prosečan AA opasniji od ostalih prosečnih ima barem nekakvu podlogu u realnosti. Are black or white offenders more likely to kill police? There were 511 officers killed in felonious incidents and 540 offenders from 2004 to 2013, according to FBI reports. Among the total offenders, 52 percent were white, and 43 percent were black. ... From 1980 to 2013, there were 2,269 officers killed in felonious incidents, and 2,896 offenders. The racial breakdown of offenders over the 33-year period was on par with the 10-year period: 52 percent were white, and 41 percent were black. ... The black population in America ranged from 11.6 percent to 13 percent between 1980 to 2013. Compared to that percentage in the population, the percentage of black offenders who killed police officers appears to be disproportionately high. But blacks tend to be concentrated in the South and in cities; some large urban areas, such as Detroit, have majority African American populations. About 51 percent of police killings were in cities and counties with a population of less than 250,000. Ajmo jos jednom ono od Rolanda Frajera i ono o statistickoj diskriminaciji (koja sada takodje postaje no-no). https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/701423?mobileUi=0
Gandalf Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, trustno1 said: Ali, ostaje ovaj grafik koji je priložio Weenie Pooh gore. Da američka policija neproporcionalno više ubija nego bilo koja druga. Kako to? jedan faktor to da SAD ima najbolje naoružane građane na svetu, što znači da je i percepcija o pretnji među pandurima znatno izraženija nego u npr. UK. pa panduri i reaguju u skladu sa tim. drugi razlog je to da Ameri imaju manje pandura nego mnoge druge zemlje. pa se od američkih pandura očekuje da rade više od drugih pri čemu im je posao opasniji (zamor materijala je tu neizbežan, pa su i zajebi učestaliji). Underpoliced and Overprisoned, revisited Here’s a graph from Daniel Bier on the ratio of police to prison spending comparing the United States to Europe. The US spends relatively less on police and more on prisons than any European country. And here’s a graph from President Obama’s CEA report on incarceration and the criminal justice system. The graph shows that the United States employs many more prison guards per-capita than does the rest of the world. Given our prison population that isn’t surprising. What is surprising is that on a per-capita basis we employ 35% fewer police than the world average. That’s crazy. Edited August 28, 2020 by Gandalf
iDemo Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 9 hours ago, Gandalf said: bio na treningu koje su američki panduri pružali za kosovsku policiju. prioritet u obuci je bezbednost pandura. pucanje u ekstremitete je manje efikasan način za eliminaciju pretnje, plus je veća verovatnoća promašaja. ...cops "could shoot them in the leg instead of the heart." "There are a lot of different things that can change," Biden said. Trebalo je neko Joe-a da posavetuje u tom pravcu.
cedo Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) je ... i pri tom ga vuci za majicu a pre toga ga pratiti oko kola sa uperenim pistoljem sa jos dvojicom/trojicom kolega ali povici ovih sto snimaju ... something like ... stop, they will shoot you ja bih rekao da otac tog ubijenog nije izvrsio svoju crnacku duznost i naucio ga da kada ga policajac zaustavi mora da se smrzne u mestu i ne radi, ne govori nista ... to je pravi razlog zasto je covek ubijen Edited August 28, 2020 by cedo
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