Amerika, zemlja velika

[mackenzie]

Interesantna neka zemljica, šta im Drump uradi za 3 godine, strašno...

 

 

[Anduril]

Nije najvece zlo Tramp nego GOP - oni ovo vec rade od Regana i sistematski blokiraju bilo kakvu reformu koja je ce olaksati zivot siromasnijima u US.

Istovremeno su kroz ratove i sece poreza zaduzili US i ojadili budzet. 

Kad tad ce se preigrati.

 

 

[3opge]

12 hours ago, Anduril said:

Nije najvece zlo Tramp nego GOP - oni ovo vec rade od Regana i sistematski blokiraju bilo kakvu reformu koja je ce olaksati zivot siromasnijima u US.

Istovremeno su kroz ratove i sece poreza zaduzili US i ojadili budzet. 

Kad tad ce se preigrati.

 

 

ajd da se jednom u zivotu slazem sa Andyjem.

 

[Krošek]

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ICE arrests 90 more students at fake university in Michigan

ICE has arrested about 250 students who were enrolled at a fake university in Farmington Hills set up by ICE to lure in students. 

About 90 additional foreign students of a fake university in metro Detroit created by the Department of Homeland Security have been arrested in recent months.

A total of about 250 students have now been arrested since January on immigration violations by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) as part of a sting operation by federal agents who enticed foreign-born students, mostly from India, to attend the school that marketed itself as offering graduate programs in technology and computer studies, according to ICE officials. 

Many of those arrested have been deported to India while others are contesting their removals. One has been allowed to stay after being granted lawful permanent resident status by an immigration judge.

The students had arrived legally in the U.S. on student visas, but since the University of Farmington was later revealed to be a creation of federal agents, they lost their immigration status after it was shut down in January. The school was located on Northwestern Highway near 13 Mile Road in Farmington Hills and staffed with undercover agents posing as university officials. 

Out of the approximately 250 students arrested on administrative charges, "nearly 80% were granted voluntary departure and departed the United States," the Detroit office of ICE's Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) told the Free Press in a statement Tuesday. 

Out of the remaining 20%, about half of them have received a final order of removal; some of them were ordered removed by an immigration judge, and others "were given an expedited removal by U.S. Customs and Border Protection," said HSI Detroit. 

The remaining 10% "have either filed for some sort of relief or are contesting their removals with Executive Office for Immigration Review," said HSI Detroit. 

ICE said in March that 161 students had been arrested, which has now increased to about 250; the 250 arrests took place from January to July, said an ICE spokesperson.

Meanwhile, seven of the eight recruiters /indijci/ who were criminally charged for trying to recruit students have pleaded guilty and have been sentenced in Detroit, including Prem Rampeesa, 27, last week. The remaining one is to be sentenced in January. 

Attorneys for the students arrested said they were unfairly trapped by the U.S. government since the Department of Homeland Security had said on its website that the university was legitimate. An accreditation agency that was working with the U.S. on its sting operation also listed the university as legitimate. 

There were more than 600 students enrolled at the university, which was created a few years ago by federal law enforcement officials with ICE. Records filed with the state Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs (LARA) show that the University of Farmington was incorporated in January 2016. 

Many of the students had enrolled with the university through a program known as Curricular Practical Training (CPT), which allows students to work in the U.S through a F-1 visa program for foreign students. Some had transferred to the University of Farmington from other schools that had lost accreditation, which means they would no longer be in immigration status and allowed to remain in the U.S. 

Emails obtained by the Free Press earlier this year showed how the fake university attracted students to the university, which cost about $12,000 on average in tuition and fees per year. 

The U.S. "trapped the vulnerable people who just wanted to maintain (legal immigration) status," Rahul Reddy, a Texas attorney who represented or advised some of the students arrested, told the Free Press this week. "They preyed upon on them."

 The fake university is believed to have collected millions of dollars from the unsuspecting students. An email from the university's president, named Ali Milani, told students that graduate programs' tuition is $2,500 per quarter and the average cost is $1,000 per month.

"They made a lot of money," Reddy said of the U.S. government. 

Reddy said that two of the students who were sent back to India through a voluntary departure agreement with ICE were denied entry into the U.S. after they tried to reenter this year.

No one has filed a lawsuit or claim against the U.S. government for collecting the money or for allegedly entrapping the students. 

Attorneys for ICE and the Department of Justice maintain that the students should have known /kada?/ it was not a legitimate university because it did not have classes in a physical location. Some CPT programs have classes combined with work programs at companies.  

"Their true intent could not be clearer," Assistant U.S. Attorney Brandon Helms wrote in a sentencing memo this month for Rampeesa, one of the eight recruiters, of the hundreds of students enrolled. "While 'enrolled' at the University, one hundred percent of the foreign citizen students never spent a single second in a classroom. If it were truly about obtaining an education, the University would not have been able to attract anyone, because it had no teachers, classes, or educational services."

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[Weenie Pooh]

Video juče, čisto ludilo.

  

3 hours ago, Krošek said:

 /kada?/

 

Pa kao, negde tokom godina je trebalo da skapiraju. Univerzitet™ je osnovan 2015, dakle u ono zlatno pretrampovsko doba.

[mustang]

what a waste of money!!!! pa jebote na sta koriste moje takse nabijem ih na onu stvar

[Weenie Pooh]

Ne troše nego zarađuju! Vidiš da su namlatili milione od lažnog univerziteta, stotine studenata a školarina $12,000. Posle ih samo pohapsiš i trijumfalno deportuješ, a pare zadržiš.

[porucnik vasic]

On 28.11.2019. at 0:45, Anduril said:

Nije najvece zlo Tramp nego GOP - oni ovo vec rade od Regana i sistematski blokiraju bilo kakvu reformu koja je ce olaksati zivot siromasnijima u US.

Istovremeno su kroz ratove i sece poreza zaduzili US i ojadili budzet. 

Kad tad ce se preigrati.

 

 

Ћути, демократе нису ниједан рат почели, нити никада нису имали у исто време све полуге власти од регана наовамо...

[ObiW]

5 hours ago, Weenie Pooh said:

Ne troše nego zarađuju! Vidiš da su namlatili milione od lažnog univerziteta, stotine studenata a školarina $12,000. Posle ih samo pohapsiš i trijumfalno deportuješ, a pare zadržiš.

Nekoliko recruitera je pohapšeno i čeka sudjenje. To su ljudi koji su nalazili studente... kako oni nisu bili drzavni agenti ako je ceo univerzitet bio klopka drzave?

 

Mozda je taj univerzitet postojao neko vreme i stancovao vize, a imigraciono  provalilo da je to fake U, preuzelo univerzitet, a prethodnu administraciju/recruiters pohapsila?

[Weenie Pooh]

Ako sam ja dobro ispratio, i ti recruiters su bili navučeni - ugradili se ljudi da posreduju jer im je delovalo kao legit operacija (za dobijanje studentske vize).

 

Meni je veća misterija kako može država da prekršajno goni bilo koga ako je prethodno dala garancije veštačkom univerzitetu? Navodno je Farmington imao sve potrebne sertifikate, nije bilo načina da se sa distance ustanovi da ne postoji. (A kad dođeš, tada si već valjda uplatio neke pare i nema nazad.)

Edited November 29, 2019 by Weenie Pooh

[ObiW]

Inače, kod mene u Teksasu se dogodio sličan slučaj, samo nisu u pitanju savezne vlasti nego lokalne, i nije u pitanju univerzitet nego kupleraj:

 

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/HPD-prostitution-stings-includes-Houston-cop-and-12308727.php?

 

 

[ObiW]

1 hour ago, Weenie Pooh said:

Ako sam ja dobro ispratio, i ti recruiters su bili navučeni - ugradili se ljudi da posreduju jer im je delovalo kao legit operacija (za dobijanje studentske vize).

 

Meni je veća misterija kako može država da prekršajno goni bilo koga ako je prethodno dala garancije veštačkom univerzitetu? Navodno je Farmington imao sve potrebne sertifikate, nije bilo načina da se sa distance ustanovi da ne postoji. (A kad dođeš, tada si već valjda uplatio neke pare i nema nazad.)

Ja sam negde pročitao da vladini agenti koji su ovaj slucaj preuzeli tvrde da na sajtu univerziteta nigde nije bilo tehnickih detalja koji inace postoje na pravim univerzitetima: kancelarije profesora, raspored casova, fizicka adresa zgrade gde su predavanja... i da je sve to ukazivalo - onome ko zaista zeli da se obrazuje - da je ovo neki scam.

[Weenie Pooh]

Ma da, ali to je baš ono najbahatije opravdanje za iživljavanje i otimačinu. Osnuješ lažni univerzitet, daš mu sertifikat, plaćaš posrednike da ti dovlače studente iz Indije, a onda ih sve trijumfalno pohapsiš i deportuješ zato što te nisu provalili. A mogli su, realno, da su samo hteli!

 

Šta je trebalo da urade ti klinci kad su došli i shvatili da nema ni nastave, ni predavača, ni ničega? Da se obrate CFPB-u? Da se oproste od para koje su već uplatili i vrate se kući o svom trošku?

 

Čemu je poslužila čitava pokazna vežba, osim da ICE budži statistiku? Da nisu možda hteli da obore poverenje 3rd world očajnika u pay-to-stay aranžmane?

[ObiW]

Nikakvo dovlacenje studenata iz Indije se ne spominje ni u jednom clanku koje sam citao, to si ti sada krenuo u svoj drama queen mode da skrenes paznju ne sebe.

 

Izgleda da su to bili studenti koji su izgubili pravo studiranja na  nekim drugim univerzitetima, i trazili su nacina da se transferuju na neki drugi U i da tako ostanu u Americi. 

[Weenie Pooh]

Jeste, ja obično skrećem pažnju na sebe dramljenjem o Indijcima  

 

Ljudi su deportovani zato što im je US of A ponudila nepostojeći fakultet a oni na to naivno naseli.