Amerika, zemlja velika

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The United States Must Be the World’s Policeman

Only America has the material and moral greatness to stop the slide into chaos and foster peace.

 

By ANDERS FOGH RASMUSSEN

Sept. 20, 2016 7:04 p.m. ET

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Barely had I been seated before Vladimir Putin told me that NATO—the organization that I then headed—no longer had any purpose and should be disbanded. “After the end of the Cold War, we dissolved the Warsaw Pact,” he said. “Similarly, you should dissolve NATO. That is a relic from the Cold War.”

During my visit to Moscow in December 2009, I sensed that President Putin was challenging the world order that the U.S. created so successfully after World War II. Beginning in 2014, he invaded Ukraine and launched a military action in Syria.

From my former positions as prime minister of Denmark and secretary-general of NATO, I know how important American leadership is. We desperately need a U.S. president who is able and willing to lead the free world and counter autocrats like President Putin. A president who will lead from the front, not from behind.

 

The world needs such a policeman if freedom and prosperity are to prevail against the forces of oppression, and the only capable, reliable and desirable candidate for the position is the United States. The presidential elections thus come at a pivotal point in history.

The Middle East is torn by war. In North Africa, Libya has collapsed and become a breeding ground for terrorists. In Eastern Europe, a resurgent Russia has brutally attacked and grabbed land by force from Ukraine. China is flexing its muscles against its neighbors—and the rogue state of North Korea is threatening a nuclear attack.

In this world of interconnections, it has become a cliché to talk about the “global village.“ But right now, the village is burning, and the neighbors are fighting in the light of the flames. Just as we need a policeman to restore order; we need a firefighter to put out the flames of conflict, and a kind of mayor, smart and sensible, to lead the rebuilding.

This is not simply about means. It is also about morality. Just as only America has the material greatness to stop the slide into chaos, only America has the moral greatness to do it—not for the sake of power, but for the sake of peace.Only America can play all these roles, because of all world powers, America alone has the credibility to shape sustainable solutions to these challenges. Russia is obsessed with rebuilding the empire the Soviet Union lost. China is still primarily a regional actor. Europe is weak, divided and leaderless. The old powers of Britain and France are simply too small and exhausted to play the global role they once did.

Yet the U.S. will only be able to shape the solutions the world needs if its leaders act with conviction. When America retrenches and retreats—if the world even thinks that American restraint reflects a lack of willingness to engage in preventing and resolving conflicts—it leaves a vacuum that will be filled by crooked autocrats across the world.

The Obama administration’s reluctance to lead the world has had serious consequences, and none is graver than the behavior of Mr. Putin. While Europe and the U.S. slept, he launched a ruthless military operation in support of the Assad regime in Syria and tried to present Russia as a global power challenging the U.S. in importance. In Europe, he is trying to carve out a sphere of influence and establish Russia as a regional power capable of diminishing American influence.

 

These are only a few examples of what is now at stake as autocrats, terrorists and rogue states challenge America’s leadership of the international rules-based order—which was created after World War II and which secured for the world an unprecedented period of peace, progress and prosperity.

The next president must acknowledge this inheritance. American isolationism will not make the U.S. and other freedom-loving countries safer and more prosperous, it will make them less so and unleash a plague of dictators and other oppressors. Above all, American isolationism will threaten the future of the rules-based international world order that has brought freedom and prosperity to so many people.

Mr. Rasmussen, a former prime minister of Denmark and a former secretary-general of NATO, is the author of “The Will to Lead—America’s Indispensable Role in the Global Fight For Freedom,” out this month from HarperCollins/Broadside Books.

 

 

 

The old powers of Britain and France are simply too small and exhausted to play the global role they once did.

 

Picka danska kao bajagi zaboravila vampira Nemacku...

 

America’s leadership of the international rules-based order—which was created after World War II and which secured for the world an unprecedented period of peace, progress and prosperity.

 

A i takozvano ponovno pisanje istorije nastavlja se iz sve snage: Amerika kao odrzac^tm i garant perioda mira i stabilnosti posle WW2, a ne uzajamno plasenje sa pokojnim CCCP-om i kolaps koji je nastupio kad je Amerika ostala jedina....

 

Dobro je, dobro 

[Eraserhead]

 

Nije mi ovo OK iz razloga koje sam naveo gore. Posebno nekakvo izvlacenje zakljucaka o tome kako su svi policajci psihopate. Velika vecina njih radi svoj posao dobro.

 

[namenski]

Velika vecina njih radi svoj posao dobro.

 

Ovu frazetinu^tm koriste ama bas svi, ukljucujuci i Vucica, ono u sluzbama, policiji, zdravstvu, itd, itd, ima slucajeva korupcije, pucanja u ljude i ostalih zloupotreba, ali velika vecina ljudi obavlja svoj posao profesionalno i savesno, taj rad...

Daj bre, ne zajebavaj... 

[Eraserhead]

Ovu frazetinu^tm koriste ama bas svi, ukljucujuci i Vucica, ono u sluzbama, policiji, zdravstvu, itd, itd, ima slucajeva korupcije, pucanja u ljude i ostalih zloupotreba, ali velika vecina ljudi obavlja svoj posao profesionalno i savesno, taj rad...

Daj bre, ne zajebavaj... 

 

Cek to je "fraza" a "svi panduri su psihopate" je sta? Cinjenica?

Edited September 21, 2016 by Eraserhead

[namenski]

Cek to je "fraza" a "svi panduri su psihopate" je sta? Cinjenica?

Jeste, svi panduri su psihopate, a ja sam 1 staljinista -_- .

Takvom metodom izvrtanja mozes da zapenis kol'ko 'oces: cinjenica je da ima nesto trulo ili barem sistemski poprilicno promaseno u sve olakijem^tm potezanju oruzja i da se ljudi polomise da ti na to skrenu paznju.

Isto kao sto je cinjenica da se Amerika u poslednjih par decenija, a narocito posle onog septembra okrenula, otkrila takoreci, drazi vaninstitucionalnog^tm resavanja problema, od skoro pa legalizacije torture zaobilazenjem sopstvenih ne samo zakona nego i samih principa na kojima je gradila i izgradila sopstvenu snagu, do olakog prihvatanja i - sto je najgore - opradavanja nasilja kao precice.

Nabildovani specijalci    prema kojima je 1 Rambo amater, snajperi koji pogadjaju na 100 kilometara i njima posveceni filmovi sa sve pratecim patriotisanjem, negovanje i narastanje imidza raznih tajnih sluzbi...

Ne valja to, nije valjalo nigde, nece valjati ni u Ameriki.

Obaska sto ne resava problem niti ga je ikad resilo.

[Radoye]

Nisu svi panduri psihopate, niti su svi US vojnici psihopate, ali je cinjenica da su tokom obuke trenirani tako da tokom akcije iskljuce mozak i po automatizmu pucaju na sve sto mrda, sto jeste problem jer kao sto se da videti tu cesto potpuno nepotrebno stradaju neki ni krivi ni duzni, a neki bogami i krivi ali koji u svakom slucaju ne zasluzuju da bubu ustreljeni kao psi na ulici. Dodaj na to jos i psihozu zbog "naoruzanog naroda" gde svako potencijalno moze da izvuce automatsku pusku i duboko usadjenu crtu rasizma koja prozima americko drustvo ("otkud niger da vozi skupa kola, mora da je krimos" i tome slicno, pa makar doticni "niger" bio uspesni lekar ili profesor univerziteta) i dobijas recept za ovo sto imas.

 

Usput, policajci imaju osecaj da su iznad zakona, da za njih jednostavno ne vaze ista pravila kao za obicne smrtnike, imali smo prilike mnogo puta da vidimo da cak i u situacijama kada postoje svedoci sa strane i video snimci policajci rutinski bivaju oslobodjeni zbog nedostatka dokaza. Na snazi je i zakon cutanja gde jedan drugom cuvaju ledja i kolege nikada (ili bas ono jako retko) svedoce protiv drugih kolega, manipulise se dokazima, laziraju se izvestaji, istrage se sabotiraju itd.

 

Na kraju krajeva nisu ni svi Slobini panduri bili psihopate, i verovatno je i medju njima bilo onih koji su casno radili svoj posao, no svi vrlo dobro znamo zbog cega smo ih onih godina sve bez razlike zvali kerovima.

[Eraserhead]

Jeste, svi panduri su psihopate, a ja sam 1 staljinista -_- .

Takvom metodom izvrtanja mozes da zapenis kol'ko 'oces: cinjenica je da ima nesto trulo ili barem sistemski poprilicno promaseno u sve olakijem^tm potezanju oruzja i da se ljudi polomise da ti na to skrenu paznju.

 

Kakvim izvrtanjem? Na snimku 0:08 covek kaze "Cops are fucking maniacs". Prosto nisu ili bar velika vecina nije. Dobro covek je komicar i mozda se zajebava alki to nije relevantno za ozbiljnu pricu.

[namenski]

Ko je bre rekao da jesu?
Manijaci u vecini, mislim.

Ali, sta god da su i u sta god da ih je sistem pretvorio ili sta god morali da urade da se sistemu prilagode, naprosto postoje neke stvari koje prosecan covek ocekuje od prosecnog kera: da ima znatno duzi fitilj pre svega, da ima odgovarajucu obuku, sta god to znacilo, itd, itd...

I, mozda najvaznije: da mu sopstveno dupe nije na prvom mestu ma koliko to danas nepopularno zvucalo reci.

Naime, sistemska pretpostavka je da je covek, prihvatajuci taj i takav posao, bas kao i profesionalni vojnik, prihvatio i odredjene povecane rizike po sopstvenu sigurnost i nema nikakvog, ama bas nikakvog, opravdanja da se pizdarije pokrivaju navodnom ili manje navodnom pretnjom po sluzbeno lice.

Konacno, i u citankama pise, ako se dobro secam: To protect and  to serve...

Bice da je ishodiste nesporazuma i sve vecoj monstruoznosti i metastazirajucem rastu moderne drzave i njenih mehanizama: mi i ne samo mi, zaboravili smo osnovno, sustinsko znacenje pojma javni sluzbenik, dakle lice posveceno i placeno da sluzi, a ne komanduje.

Dodati na to birokratizaciju, sklonost preuvelicavanju sopstvenog znacaja i vaznosti - cemu su inace sve takve sluzbe sklone i to bez izuzetka - onda sklonost ka manipulisanju, itd, itd, i dobijamo stanje koje imamo i koje ce jos da se pogorsava.

Danasnja borba sa terorizmom, dusu je dala da te i takve sluzbe muljaju, obaska sto je takozvana demokratska kontrola, cak i tamo gde je postojala i gde je bila efikasna, takodje izgubila bitku sa narastanjem moci raznih policija, specijalaca, tajnih sluzbi i ostalog basibozuka...

[Weenie Pooh]

"Cops are fucking maniacs" je direktan odgovor na "Cops are Amurrcan heroes bez kojih bi zemlja propala, pravi ono salt of the earth, tek poneki manijak zaluta ali bože moj". 

 

Kad je sistem faličan a javnost se ubeđuje da je sve OK, svaka prozivka je na mestu. Cinculiranje o tačnom procentu ubica sa oružjem i značkom je bezvezna relativizacija. 

 

That said, Jimmy Dore odavno drži tu svoju tezu o tome kako se za posao policajca mahom prijavljuju ljudi sa određenim mentalnim problemima, pa ne treba da čudi ako su laki na obaraču i jedni drugima čuvaju leđa.

[askeladden]

To monstruozno pridrzavanje propisa cak i ako znas da nije obavezno tako i da ce biti los  ishod mi je uzasno.Ubijeni je bio upozoren,u panici se okrenuo i oni imaju opravdanje da ga ubiju bez posledica.Kurtonka koja je instruktor,ergo autoritet u vezi tih propisa ga je upucala jer apsolutno zna da sve radi by the book i cisto sumnjam da ima neku grizu savesti.Ovde sam se toga nagledao na psihijatriji gde su izbijale bespotrebne tuce i vezivanja oko pravila koja su mogla a i ne da se primene.Ne mozes sa jedne strane zagovarati slobodu govora i prava pojedinca da bi mu samo na osnovu necije procene sva ta prava bila uzeta u trenu.

[theanswer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT5P8H2nEzI

 

Plus jedna osoba upucana večeras u Šarlotu

[Eraserhead]

The shooting was between two civilians and did not involve police, a city official said.

 

Prosao sam tuda sat vremena ranije. Protestanti su bili vrlo mirni, setali i uzvikivali parole. Oko 100 ljudi bilo u tom trenutku.

Edited September 22, 2016 by Eraserhead

[katamaran]

[Weenie Pooh]

- Have you thought about what you're gonna be wearing at the debates?

- You know, there's this thing called "the double standard", and so I think about what should the first woman nominee of one of our two major parties wear to the debate, and I have no idea, so if you've got suggestions I'm open to them

 

Parkinson's it is, then. 

[Anduril]

Rasmusenu je svaka na mestu - bez US bi Evropa bila vec u mnogo vecem haosu.