whistleblowers: wikileaks, snowden i...

[luba]

obama ima prvi pres od pocetka afere. pocinje u 1920 gmt ko zeli da vidi da li ce se yes we can osvrnuti na ovu nevaznu pricu ili ce se zadrzati na objasnjenju da je dil sa republikancima oko tax cuts u stvari ono sto je hteo od samog pocetka.za fanove :P

#Assange smiled twice in court. When giving Australian PO box as address. Then when judge said Wikipedia instead of @Wikileaks.

Edited December 7, 2010 by luba

[DarkAttraktor]

za fanove :P

“Well hello there, little schoolgirl.”

[eoten]

Kako se ovo dokazuje na sudu?Ona kaže nije imao kondom, on kaže imao sam ga i sud uradi šta? Veštak nešto veštači? Šta veštači i kako? Koji mehanizam sud ima da proveri šta se desilo između dvoje ljudi u mračnoj sobi pre 4 meseca? Mislim,koja glupost je i samo postojanje ovakvih zakona...

Zapravo ti i ne treba neko dokazivanje u zemlji gde se seks zvanično smatra sredstvom kojim muškarci (beli, heteroseksualni) kontrolišu žene preko istog. Ali, prema onom što je procurelo iz policijskih zapisnika, Ardin i Wilen ne optužuju Asanža za silovanje već država tako tumači njihove izjave date koad su došle da druga, uz motalnu podršku prve, traži "savet" kako da postupi glede nezaštićenog seksa koji se dogodio u rano jutro dok je bila suviše sanjiva i/ili narajcana da pruži ozbiljniji otpor te je dozvolila da bude nagovorena da ne insistira na kondomu. Bez upotrebe sile ili fizičke pretnje. Pošto se to brzo rasplinulo u ništa, uskočila je ova sadašnja tužiteljica Ny i advokat Bergstrom koji su terali (ili silovali) stvar do hapšenja i mogućeg izručenja. Taj Bersgstrom je na pitanje kako je moguće da Asanža sumnjiče za silovanje kada je Ardin izjavila da Asanž nije silovatelj već čovek koji ima "problem sa stavom prema ženama" a ni Wilen ga en tereti za upotrebu sile i pretnje odgovorio doslovno: da, ali one nisu advokati.Da li se tu radi o uticaju od preko okeana da se Asanž skloni na bilo koji način ili o radikalnom feminizmu svako može da spekuliše po volji. Ja mislim da je ono prvo. Činjenica da je Britanija druga demokratska zemlja sa dugom tradicijom nezavisnog sudstva koja praktično koristi svoj sudski sistem na vrlo pogrešan način. Pošto će ono što wikiliks ima procuriti ovako ili onako jedini motivi za napad korišćenjem sudova ostaju osveta ili plašenje budućih zviždača. Više me ne bi iznenadilo ni da dobije 30 metaka u leđa pri pokušaju bekstva.

[Aion]

Više me ne bi iznenadilo ni da dobije 30 metaka u leđa pri pokušaju bekstva.

Ja pre mislim Britance nista ne bi mogla da opere ako bi se sad Asanzu nesto desilo (da ga zgaze kola, ili nesto slicno). Mozda je i zbog toga odbijena kaucija. A mozda sam ja jednostavno naivan.

[luba]

tek sam sad videla cv advokata na 18 stranaocekujmo zatvaranje #iamwikileaks i ostalih # na tviteru. za manje od 20 minuta, 53,000 tagova. novih 200 za 12 sekundi, kazu informanti.a sto se tice znacaja kapljanja:

WikiLeaks: Texas Company Helped Pimp Little Boys To Stoned Afghan Cops

kabltekst koji je usledioda, zaista na nivou traceraja za domacice.

[eoten]

Ja pre mislim Britance nista ne bi mogla da opere ako bi se sad Asanzu nesto desilo (da ga zgaze kola, ili nesto slicno). Mozda je i zbog toga odbijena kaucija. A mozda sam ja jednostavno naivan.

Izgleda da ni njih ni Švede nikakvo pranje više ne zanima. Možda se mnogim ljudima otvore oči posle ovoga pa to ostavi većeg traga od ovih tračeva koji se objavljuju. A verovatno sam i ja samo naivan.

[DarkAttraktor]

Usudio bih se reci, mozda i najjace dosad:Excerpt iz teksta:"Many of DynCorp's employees are ex-Green Berets and veterans of other elite units, and the company was commissioned by the US government to provide training for the Afghani police. According to most reports, over 95 percent of its $2 billion annual revenue comes from US taxpayers."

[Vapad]

@luba: Mislim da ti ne shvataš moderno društvo i ulogu pojedinca u njemu, dok je tvoje dupe u toplom i suvom, nahranjeno i napojeno ne bi trebalo da te pogađa šta se događa sa guzama dece "tamo negde". Nemoj da kvariš idilu.

[Musharaf]

Али! Али! Реч је о силовању које локална култура прихвата, за разлику од Асанжовог притискања 1 својом телесном тежином. За потоње следи црвена потерница, ухићење и испорука Кон-ером.

[Roger Sanchez]

Mislim da vaša osuda proizilazi iz neshvaćanja i netolerancije visavis stranih kultura i obrazaca ponašanja. They eat dogs in China. They drink Hennessy in Pyongyang. They fuck boys in AfPak.

[luba]

pa jes, kad volim da virim u tudja dvorista. sta cu kad me majka rodila znatizeljnu i skandalima sklonu.evo kako bilo na sudu, fali onaj super deo kad je sudija rekao wikipedia umesto wl.

Julian Assange appeared calm and confident as he walked into the glass-walled dock of a packed London courtroom Tuesday, and showed little surprise at the media storm sparked by his arrest. Wearing a dark blue suit and open-necked white shirt, the 39-year-old founder of whistleblowing site WikiLeaks coolly surveyed the journalists packing Court One of Westminster Magistrates Court, and even waved at a few. Assange was arrested by British police hours earlier on a European warrant for allegedly sexually assaulting two women in Sweden. He denies the claims and his British lawyer has denounced them as politically motivated. His court appearance was the first since WikiLeaks began releasing 250,000 secret US embassy cables 10 days ago, causing a global diplomatic storm. Clean-shaven and sporting a slightly styled version of his cropped, trademark white-blond hair, the tall and slim Assange was escorted into the dock of the modern courtroom by security guards and took his seat. He spoke when asked to confirm his name and his birthday -- July 3, 1971. But it was not long before he deviated from the script, and when District Judge Howard Riddle asked him for his address, he responded: "For your correspondence or for other reasons?" When pressed, he gave a Post Office box number in Australia, prompting consternation among court officials who believed this insufficient. Assange's defence lawyer had a quiet word with his client through the glass screen and then handed a piece of paper with an address on it to the judge, who read it out: "177 Grantham Street, Parkville, Victoria, Australia." Amid further confusion, it was agreed that police had been given a British address for Assange, where he had been staying for the past three weeks, but it was decided it would not be read out in court for his own safety. Sitting straight-backed and with his hands in his lap, Assange showed little sign of the pressure he is under over the WikiLeaks releases, which sparked outrage in Washington and which he says have led to threats on his life. Assange's lawyer and the judge insisted the assault case had nothing to do with WikiLeaks and should be judged on its own merits. But the huge media presence underscored the global interest in the case, as did the appearance in court of British socialite Jemima Khan, filmmaker Ken Loach and award-winning author John Pilger, all supporting Assange. They each offered 20,000 pounds (23,600 euros, 31,400 dollars) surety for his bail, despite Khan and Loach admitting they did not know him personally. "I know him by reputation," Loach told the court, adding about WikiLeaks: "I think we are entitled to know the dealings of those who govern us." Pilger said he knew Assange personally "and I have a very high regard for him", adding: "I'm here today because the charges (allegations) against him in Sweden are absurd." He dismissed the Swedish prosecution as a "travesty". However their generous offers -- which with three others totalled 180,000 pounds -- came to nothing as the judge ruled that Assange was a flight risk and had to be kept in custody until his next hearing on December 14. Assange watched the judge closely as he delivered his verdict but showed little emotion, maintaining his straight back and calm expression before being escorted out of the courtroom. As a white police van containing the suspect drove off from the court, it was mobbed by crowds of waiting photographers and a handful of supporters who shouted his name and held up signs saying a "travesty of justice".

[dig_chohano]

Jbt, samo čekam da krenu da komplikuju igre i po kvartovima zidaju distributivne centre za somu pa da se latim kakvog puškomitraljeza.

[Weenie Pooh]

Taman sam hteo da pitam čime se bavi ta DynCorp osim seks-trafikingom, odskrolam gore, kaže "defense contractors" :isuse:Ima li gnusnijeg naziva za ovu vrstu firme, koje u XXI veku otvoreno posluju kao bande plaćeničke, naravno sve legalno i state-sanctioned?Istorijski gledano, i Britanci su pre par vekova bogato plaćali piratske brodove da selektivno haraju po Špancima... pa ko se najbolje pokaže, ni plemićka titula nije daleko... ali ih bar nisu zvali odbrambenim ugovornicima.

[Musharaf]

Ваистину Сотона. Рођен 3. јула.

[расејан]

Taman sam hteo da pitam čime se bavi ta DynCorp osim seks-trafikingom, odskrolam gore, kaže "defense contractors" :isuse:Ima li gnusnijeg naziva za ovu vrstu firme, koje u XXI veku otvoreno posluju kao bande plaćeničke, naravno sve legalno i state-sanctioned?Istorijski gledano, i Britanci su pre par vekova bogato plaćali piratske brodove da selektivno haraju po Špancima... pa ko se najbolje pokaže, ni plemićka titula nije daleko... ali ih bar nisu zvali odbrambenim ugovornicima™.

Е, а нама пребацивали што су се накотиле паравојне формације...