whistleblowers: wikileaks, snowden i...

[Bakemono]

Haha, baš sad sam pričao o tom filmu sa Symetom preko PM-a! :)

[Prospero]

ako tražite iole ozbiljnog^tm teoretičara zavere čitajte epersona (the unseen hand je crash course teorija zavere). reptilijanac icke je media darling zato što je lud ko biber pa je zahvalan za manipulaciju.

[Turnbull]

Bafalo, ne navlači decu na teške droge.

[Аврам Гојић]

Haha, baš sad sam pričao o tom filmu sa Symetom preko PM-a! :)

ekipica™

[DarkAttraktor]

ako tražite iole ozbiljnog^tm teoretičara zavere čitajte epersona (the unseen hand je crash course teorija zavere). reptilijanac icke je media darling zato što je lud ko biber pa je zahvalan za manipulaciju.

kakvo psihodelicno prezime

[Roger Sanchez]

Snowden čit'o ArsTechnicu. Odma mi je još simpićniji!

[Roger Sanchez]

hodor bekgraund Edited June 13, 2013 by Roger Sanchez

[dragance]

Steta sto je Jon Stewart otisao na sluzbeni put, dok ga menja John Olliver, ali ipak volim: Good News, You Are Not Paranoid!

[Indy]

Lik iz FBI-a kaze da je ovo prisluskivanje NSA "moglo da spreci 9/11". (Blowback, uzrok --> posledica, ovo ono - nista to; samo dovoljno spijuniraj, i sve ce biti OK).+

The FBI director, Robert Mueller, also revealed that US authorities would be taking action against whistleblower Edward Snowden for revealing the extent of its activities, confirming that the FBI and department of justice were taking "all necessary steps to hold the person responsible".

Naravno, u Snowdenu je problem.

[Indy]

Zvuči kao kratka (i zanimljiva!) naučno-fantastična priča, međutim, u pitanju je realnost u kojoj živimo danas, tačnije u kojoj je USA.Inside Fort Meade, Maryland, a top-secret city bustles. Tens of thousands of people move through more than 50 buildings—the city has its own post office, fire department, and police force. But as if designed by Kafka, it sits among a forest of trees, surrounded by electrified fences and heavily armed guards, protected by antitank barriers, monitored by sensitive motion detectors, and watched by rotating cameras. To block any telltale electromagnetic signals from escaping, the inner walls of the buildings are wrapped in protective copper shielding and the one-way windows are embedded with a fine copper mesh. (... dalje ...)

[Prospero]

duga ruka mafije:http://euobserver.com/justice/120490EU commission 'stood firm' on US data privacy13.06.13 @ 18:52By Benjamin FoxBRUSSELS - The European Commission says it "stood firm" in the face of pressure from the US when drafting its overhaul of the bloc's data protection regime.Mina Andreeva, spokesperson for EU justice commissioner Viviane Reding, Thursday (13 June) said that the EU executive arm had faced down "intense US lobbying."She added that the commission proposal had included provisions "making it absolutely clear that US companies would have to abide by EU rules whenever they offer their goods and services to European citizens" while any requests by the US to access the data of an EU citizen would "be channeled through existing legal frameworks."However, Sophie In't Veld, a Dutch Liberal MEP and data expert, said she was "surprised" by the commission's statement."It was very clear that the article on data transfer had been taken out because the US mission had been involved in the drafting," she told this website."The US mission were very open about their lobbying efforts," she added.A draft of the data protection regulation, sent by Reding to the other EU commissioners in November 2011, contained provisions in Article 42 that would make it a condition for the disclosure of user data to authorities in third countries to have a legal foundation, such as a mutual legal assistance agreement and an authorisation by the competent data protection authority.However, the Article disappeared from the final proposal, after strong lobbying from the US administration.The proposals, which were tabled in January 2012, are now in the hands of MEPs and ministers who expect to reach agreement on the rules before the end of 2013.The commission has come under pressure this week to show that it will not allow Washington to abuse its 'special relationship' with Europe by ignoring its rules on data privacy.Documents disclosed to the Guardian newspaper by 29-year-old Edward Snowden, a former CIA worker, revealed that the US National Security Authority (NSA) had been snooping on Europeans.In a letter sent on Monday evening (10 June) to Eric Holder, the US attorney general, commissioner Reding demanded "explanations and clarifications" on whether the controversial PRISM surveillance programme, as well as any other US data collection and surveillance programmes, had also been targeted at Europeans.The letter questioned whether the scope of US data collection was restricted to national security or foreign intelligence, how the data was collected, and whether businesses in the EU or US were able to challenge access to data."PRISM and the laws on the basis of which such programmes are authorised could have grave adverse consequences for the fundamental rights of EU citizens," Reding said.Reding warned that she expected "swift and concrete answers" when the two sides speak on Friday (13 June) at a meeting of EU and US justice officials.

[Lord Protector]

NSA vrši globalno presretanje elektronskih komunikacija još iz perioda hladnog rata, šezdesetih je to počelo (projekat Echelon i njegovi derivati) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON. Ništa novo oni ne rade projektom PRIZMA, sem što su uključili internet i mobilnu telefoniju u sistem praćenja. Razlika je u tome što je prvi put neko iz sistema potvrdio ono što se posredno znalo ili nagađalo. Amerikanci su do sada imali odličan sistem zaštite onoga što su radili, ali svemu dođe kraj, pa i tome.

Edited June 14, 2013 by slow

[Prospero]

oh, samo je trebalo da podigne ruku...http://thehill.com/homenews/house/305409-house-intel-chiefs-snowden-lyingNSA leaker Snowden is lying, say leaders of House Intelligence CommitteeBy Mike Lillis - 06/13/13 02:15 PM ETThe NSA leaker is lying about both his access to information and the scope of the secret surveillance programs he uncovered, the heads of the House Intelligence Committee charged Thursday.Emerging from a hearing with NSA Director Gen. Keith Alexander, Reps. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), chairman of the Intelligence Committee, and Dutch Ruppersberger (Md.), the senior Democrat on the panel, said Edward Snowden simply wasn't in the position to access the content of the communications gathered under National Security Agency programs, as he's claimed."He was lying," Rogers said. "He clearly has over-inflated his position, he has over-inflated his access and he's even over-inflated what the actually technology of the programs would allow one to do. It's impossible for him to do what he was saying he could do.""He's done tremendous damage to the country where he was born and raised and educated," Ruppersberger said.Asked how much additional information — including other Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act verdicts — Snowden has in his possession, Rogers said, "No one really knows the answer to that today. I think we will know the answer to that shortly.""It was clear that he attempted to go places that he was not authorized to go, which should raise questions for everyone," Rogers added.Rogers said investigators are also trying to determine whether Snowden has any relationship with foreign governments — something national security officials don't know yet, he said.The NSA leaks have relaunched the post-9/11 debate about how far the government should be allowed to go to protect the country from attacks. Snowden has been hailed as a hero by some liberals, conservatives and civil-liberties groups, who argue the NSA programs are an infringement on constitutionally guaranteed privacy rights.Snowden's critics, including a growing number of congressional leaders, argue that he broke the law when he leaked the sensitive data through the media. They want him extradited and prosecuted."There should be no [question] in anyone's mind that this person is a traitor to the United States of America, and he should be punished," Rogers said."Some people are saying that he's a hero. He's broken the law," Ruppersberger said. "We have laws in the United States for whistle-blowers, for people that think there's an injustice being done. All he had to do was raise his hand. ... Under the whistle-blower law, he is protected. Yet he chose to go to China."The criticism from the Intel leaders took a turn toward the personal Thursday, as Rogers and Ruppersberger questioned how the 29-year-old Snowden, who never graduated from high school, could have risen to a position to access such sensitive information."I hope that we don't decide that our national security interests are going to be determined by a high-school dropout who had a whole series of both academic troubles and employment troubles," Rogers said."We'd better ask a lot harder questions about who he is and what his motives were, fully, and what access he had to information before we draw the conclusion that this guy was doing something positive."

[Indy]

Urgh,,, jebenti, kud se ne setih da samo "podignem ruku"!

[Prospero]

da se referišem na ovaj post:http://www.parapsihopatologija.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=13521&st=2040#entry2196452

The issue is also causing divisions in the European Parliament, where the rules are currently being negotiated.The parliament's lead negotiator on the file, German Green MEP Jan Albrecht, reintroduced transfer safeguards in his draft currently under legislative scrutiny.But UK liberal Baroness Sara Ludford moved to weaken them.She proposed to delete a paragraph that would require people to be informed that their data may be transferred to a third country or an international organisation.

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