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http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/444031/Grcka-ima-suficit-platnog-bilansa-prvi-put-od-1948-godine

 

Grčka ima suficit platnog bilansa prvi put od 1948. godineBeta-AFP | 19. 02. 2014. - 18:35h | Komentara: 0Tekući platni bilans Grčke je 2013. godine imao suficit od milijardu i 244 miliona evra, i to je prvi takav slučaj još od 1948. godine, saopštila je danas Banka Grčke.Platni bilans je krajem prethodne, 2012. godine, bio u deficitu od četiri milijarde i 615 miliona evra. Grčka je beležila samo deficite još od početka 1948. godine, od kada objavljuje podatke o tekućem platnom bilansu.Prošlogodišnji suficit je rezultat uglavnom znatnog smanjenja spoljnotrgovinskog deficita za 2,4 milijarde evra, uz uporedno povećanje vrednosti durih transakcija i usluga, posebno u turizmu, saopštila je Banka Grčke.Prihod od turizma iznosio je lane 11,9 milijardi evra, dok je 2012. bio deset 10,442 miliona evra. Grčka je oborila rekorde brojnosti stranih turista 2013. sa više od 17 miliona posetilaca, dok ih je 2012. bilo manje od 16 miliona.Turistički bum je i posledica krize u zemljama Magreba, u Egiptu i Turskoj.Rast prihoda od turizma je pokrio pad prihoda od brodskog transporta koji je iznosio 12,089 milijardi 2013, dok je 2012. bio 13,287 milijardi, saopštila je Banka Grčke.Spoljnotrgovinski deficit je opao zbog znatnog smanjenja rashoda za uvoz od 4,5 odsto, a povećanja prihoda od izvoza za 2,3 odsto, uglavnom od naftnih derivata.Grčka koja se i dalje bori da izadje iz krize posle šest uzastopnih godina recesije, nada se privrednom rastu ove godine, uz nisku stopu povećanja od 0,6 odsto BDP.
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Pa prilicno je prosto:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26257413

 

Greece posts first current account surplus since 1948Record spending by tourists has helped Greece post its first current account surplus since official data began.Figures from the Bank of Greece showed the difference between the money going into and coming out of the country was 1.24bn euros (£1bn) last year.It was partly driven by a 15% increase in tourism receipts, the country's biggest earner.The surplus was the first for the recession-hit economy since records began in 1948.It is equivalent to about 0.7% of total Greek economic output, and is a marked improvement on 2012, when the current account registered a deficit of 4.6bn euros.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_account

 

In economics, the current account is one of the two primary components of the balance of payments, the other being capital account. It is the sum of the balance of trade (i.e., net revenue on exports minus payments for imports), factor income (earnings on foreign investments minus payments made to foreign investors) and cash transfers.The current account balance is one of two major measures of the nature of a country's foreign trade (the other being the net capital outflow). A current account surplus increases a country's net foreign assets by the corresponding amount, and a current account deficit does the reverse. Both government and private payments are included in the calculation. It is called the current account because goods and services are generally consumed in the current period.[1][2]
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ekeke 
 

ECB Wins EU Court Ruling to Keep Greek Swap Information Secret

By Stephanie Bodoni and Elisa Martinuzzi  Feb 20, 2014 3:22 PM GMT+0100

 


The European Central Bank won’t have to disclose how Greece used derivatives to hide its debt after the European Union’s top court quashed efforts to make the information public.

The European Union Court of Justice, in a Feb. 6 decision, rejected a freedom-of-information request by Bloomberg News to access two internal ECB papers, citing procedural errors.

European taxpayers, bearing the cost of Greece’s 240 billion-euro ($329 billion) bailout, won’t learn whether EU officials knew of irregularities in Greece’s public accounts before they became public in 2009. The case was the first legal challenge to a refusal by the ECB to make public details of its decision-making process.

“Our case has always been about the public’s right to know if EU officials allowed Greece to hide its deficit, which helped trigger Europe’s debt crisis,” Bloomberg News Editor-in-Chief Matthew Winkler said. “We are disappointed with the court’s ruling and we will continue our work to bring more transparency to markets in Europe and around the world.”

Bloomberg’s freedom-of-information request was twice rejected by the ECB before the news organization sued in December 2010. A lower EU court in 2012 ruled that disclosing the documents “would have undermined the protection of the public interest so far as concerns the economic policy of the European Union and Greece.”

Bloomberg sought access to two internal papers drafted for the central bank’s six-member executive board. The first document is entitled “The impact on government deficit and debt from off-market swaps: the Greek case.” The second reviews Titlos Plc, a structure that allowed National Bank of Greece SA, the country’s biggest lender, to borrow from the ECB by creating collateral.
 
An official at the Frankfurt-based ECB wasn’t immediately able to comment on the ruling. The case is: C-28/13 P, Thesing and Bloomberg Finance v. ECB.

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Da, ovo ce biti zanimljivo.

 

Mozda bi najbolji scenario bio na kraju da Siriza zaista pobedi i da konacno sprovede ono sto su obecali.

 

Prednost EU bi trebala da bude i to sto nije centralizovana i sto se u vreme krize mogu isprobavati razlicite politike.

 

Za pocetak bi bilo pametno da ponovo izadju iz Evra ili bar delimicno (da obe valute budu legalne), da pocnu sa stampanjem kao nekada i da onda vidimo dokle ce stici.

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Jel ovo sa izlaskom iz Evra ozbiljno pišeš ili je ironičan ton u pitanju, a ja nisam uspeo da ga detektujem? Ozbiljno pitam.

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Nije ironija. Stabilna i jaka zajednicka valuta podrazumeva zajednicku kontrolu budzeta i reformi.

 

 

Ako vecina u Grckoj delimicnu budzetsku kontrolu i reformske pritiske vidi kao neprijateljsko spoljno mesanje, onda nema smisla da ostaju u evru.

 

 

Drugi, tradicionalni nacin da se budzet stavi pod kontrolu jeste povratak drahme, stampanje, devalvacija i inflacija.

I to ce smanjiti plate i trgovinski deficit kao sto se dogadja sa sadasnjim rezovima samo sto veliki broj ljudi ne kapira mechanizam pa je politicki bezbolnije.

 

 

Problem ostaju strukturne reforme jer povratkom na drahmu se svaki problem moze resiti stampanjem ili faktickim bankrotom pa politicari ne moraju da reformisu.

 

 

Sa druge strane, ovde su stalno pod pritiskom svojih kolega i raznih EU/medjunarodnih institucija pa nesto i rade ali nedovoljno.

Najveci problem je sto EU/medjunarodne institucije imaju slab demokratski legitimitet i ne komuniciraju sa Grcima kako bi trebalo pa lokalna politicka i biznis elita sebe i dalje vidi kao bogom danu.

U pravom federalizmu bi demokratski legitimna federalna vlast uz podrsku gradjana mogla da izvrsi mnogo veci pritisak na lokalnu politiku/biznis ukoliko je ova nesposobna.

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Načini stavljanja budžeta pod kontrolu nisu sporni, samo ne vidim kako Grčka može da se vrati na drahmu a da joj sav spekulativni kapital ovog sveta ne zaskoči na vrat i očerupa i ovo malo perja što joj ostalo. Povratak na drahmu nije moguć a da se za to unapred ne zna, verovatan je i period dvovalutnog sistema, kao prelazne faze. Kamen na kamenu ne bi ostao od Grčke. Mislim da su tu gde su i da nemaju kud, na žalost.

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