Gandalf Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Alexis Tsipras was given a very rough ride in his meeting with Tusk, Merkel and Hollande, our Europe editor Ian Traynor reports. Tsipras was told that Greece will either become an effective “ward” of the eurozone, by agreeing to immediately implement swift reforms this week. Or, it leaves the euro area and watches its banks collapse. One official dubbed it “extensive mental waterboarding”, in an attempt to make the Greek PM fall into line. http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2015/jul/12/greek-debt-crisis-eu-leaders-meeting-cancelled-no-deal-live Link to comment
harper lee Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Stvar je jasna, Evropi treba Gerexit a ne Grexit. Pa ko od ostalih hoce u avanturu s Nemcima kao hegemonima dobro je dosao da im se pridruzi. Link to comment
adam Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I nije dugo trebalo... Boris http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11734869/Greece-must-rediscover-the-spirit-of-Marathon-to-burst-its-euro-shackles.html ah, pizda jedva docekao. ali pazi sad - tvrde oni pazar i na drugoj strani. vec danima provejava kroz medije da ih zovu u eftu. bio pre neki dan islandski premijer na vestima i objasnjavao zasto je to super. a i neki svicarac se skoro javljao sa istim predlogom. cameron fata niski start. sve u svemu, britanci ne mogu da veruju kako ih je usralo. Link to comment
Anduril Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Kome, Srbiji? Andurile, get serious. Ta vlada je do poslednjeg momenta blokirala beli sengen za Srbiju. Sef CSU je trazio pre mesec dana vracanje viza. Poglavlja niko ne zna sta je stvarno uslov za otvaranje. kakve crne milijarde. Grckoj. A te pare naravno fale nama. Cak i deseti deo toga bi bio super - sa parama koje su spucali u Grcku su mogli da drze ceo region. To vazi i za buducnost - manje para za Grcku znaci generalno vise para za ostale. Link to comment
vememah Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Ed Conway @EdConwaySky EU source: talks still constructive. They're going thru proposal line-by-line. They haven't got to the Grexit clause yet. Long night ahead 10:23 PM - 12 Jul 2015 Link to comment
MancMellow Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 sve u svemu, britanci ne mogu da veruju kako ih je usralo. bukvalno Link to comment
MancMellow Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Grckoj. A te pare naravno fale nama. Cak i deseti deo toga bi bio super - sa parama koje su spucali u Grcku su mogli da drze ceo region. To vazi i za buducnost - manje para za Grcku znaci generalno vise para za ostale. mogli su. ali ne bi. Link to comment
Tribun_Populi Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Nije federacija nego nacija. Ne menja mnogo u organizacijskom smislu, ono budžetiranje, contribution to the federal level, taxation etc. Koliko je para Evropa ulupala na evropeizaciju, i onda dođe Her Schäuble i objasni svima da su se malo šalili, jer su u međuvremenu uvideli da pojedini didn't obey the rules. Pri svemu 60% njihovog izvoza ide u tu istu EU, dakle na common market, čemu nemačko privredno čudo duguje egzistenciju. Budalet'ne ne samo što pucaju u evropski proces, dugoročno pucaju sebi u nogu. Link to comment
Аврам Гојић Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 da li neko ozbiljno veruje da bilo koja zemlja na svetu osim najcrnje diktature moze da sprovede zakonodavnu reformu ovakvih razmera za 48h? Link to comment
vememah Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Šojble se trudi da nabaci posao drugarima. THE FUND THAT COULD MANAGE GREEK ASSETS: Germany has suggested one particular institution – KFW – could manage Greece’s assets and some of their reform efforts. But who’s behind this little-known “Institute for Growth”? It’s the government-owned bank, KFW. KFW’ CEO Ulrich Schröder spent 20 years at WestLB (and six years at a spin-off) – a bank which received four government bailouts since 2008. Also on the board are none other than German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble and Economy Minister Sigmar Gabriel. http://www.politico.eu/article/greece-crisis-live-tsipras-parliament-referendum-bailout-reforms-eurozone-eurogroup-council-summit/#liveblog-entry-64319 Edited July 12, 2015 by vememah Link to comment
Sestre Bronte Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) da li neko ozbiljno veruje da bilo koja zemlja na svetu osim najcrnje diktature moze da sprovede zakonodavnu reformu ovakvih razmera za 48h? umeju demokratije da ponekad budu najcrnje dikatature, doduše, bar se potrude da to ne traje predugo, nego samo onoliko koliko je potrebno mada, mislim da je Eu suviše ograničena svojom birokratijom da bi mogla dovoljno brzo da se prebacuje iz diktature u demokratiju i obratno Edited July 12, 2015 by Braća Strugacki Link to comment
MancMellow Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Šojble se trudi da nabaci posao drugarima. Nemoguće! Pa zar u Nemačkoj? Link to comment
vememah Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) da li neko ozbiljno veruje da bilo koja zemlja na svetu osim najcrnje diktature moze da sprovede zakonodavnu reformu ovakvih razmera za 48h? Good point, to i Cipras kaže, ali je relevantno samo ako pretpostavljaš da većina zemalja želi dogovor. Ovo je zapravo sve igrokaz jer Nemci ne smeju direktno da kažu da ih izbacuju. There is “basic disagreement” at the Eurosummit on the question of debt reprofiling, a Greek official said, while Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras’ delegation is very worried about its ability to “write down laws in under 48 hours” to meet the eurozone’s requirement that the Greek parliament should approve the basic agreement by Wednesday before bailout negotiations can begin in earnest. http://www.politico.eu/article/greece-crisis-live-tsipras-parliament-referendum-bailout-reforms-eurozone-eurogroup-council-summit/#liveblog-entry-64309 Edited July 12, 2015 by vememah Link to comment
Аврам Гојић Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 ilustracija duha na internetima, nista vise: na tviteru ludacki trenduje hashtag #ThisIsACoup Link to comment
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