vememah Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Finland Finance Minister Stubb is direct and clear about a “clear majority” in Eurogroup feeling that “an extension of the (bailout) programme” is not happening http://www.politico.eu/article/eurogroup-tsipras-meeting-brussels-greek-debt-crisis/#liveblog-entry-60141 Edited June 27, 2015 by vememah Link to comment
Аврам Гојић Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 "If the Greek government thinks it must hold a referendum, then let it hold a referendum," Schaeuble said on arrival at a meeting of eurozone finance ministers. "That might even be a helpful measure for the Greek people to decide whether it is ready to accept what is necessary, or whether it wants something different." 11. maj Link to comment
Muwan Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Nema načina da se savršeno spremiš za posledice najvećeg defaulta u istoriji...u slučaju da glas bude "oxi". Mada...ima ovde još da se igra, što bi rekli fudbalski komentatori Sad je malkice prekasno za produžetke. Postoji nešto što se zove spirala ludila, na početku izgleda kao da u svakom trenutku možeš da se uozbiljiš i iskočiš iz nje a onda odjednom shvatiš da si napravio toliko malih koraka ka crnoj rupi da više nema tog velikog koraka koji može da preokrene stvar. Na kraju te sopstveni mozak dotuče pa kreneš da razmišljaš u stilu: "Well, fuck it, ajde da skočimo unutra, valjda neće biti ne znam kako loše..." Upravo prisustvujemo jednom takvom fenomenu. Taktika približavanja crvenoj liniji pa uzmicanja u zadnjoj sekundi je odlična ali ima samo jednu manu - uzmicanje ponekad može da zakasni. Link to comment
Аврам Гојић Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Izgleda da postoji konsenzus da nema produzenja programa. Sta se jos moze uraditi da bi se izbegao default (pod uslovom da nije vec poceo)? Yannis Koutsomitis@YanniKouts MT @antheecarassava Senior BoG tells me cap controls not the issue now; rather whether ECB continues ELA. If not, banks close "indefinitely" Edited June 27, 2015 by Грешни Василије Link to comment
Muwan Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Možeš da ideš ovako: Korak 1 - da li su tviter-fotografije pražnjenja bankomata, supermarketa i pumpi autentične? If Yes, Korak 2 - zapitaš se šta je sada moguće učiniti kako bi narod prestao da prazni bankomate i supermarkete, i kako u ponedeljak ne bi jurnuli na banke. Odgovor: ništa; to je sada izvan domašaja onih genijalaca što pregovaraju odnosno već mesecima presipaju iz šupljeg u prazno a pesak samo curi. If No, Korak 2 - zapitaš se da li će u narednih nekoliko dana neko u tom čitavom društvu staviti prst na čelo i izaći sa nečim smislenim. Odgovor: neće; jedni, kao, nemaju kud a drugi kao, brane više ciljeve tako da nema tu ništa od gurabija. Edited June 27, 2015 by beowl Link to comment
Аврам Гојић Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) sto se bank run fotografija tice, nisam video nijednu agencijsku sliku, a video sam i fotke sa ljudima koji stoje ispred bankomata u zimskoj odeci, na 26 stepeni. tako da jury is still out edit: ima agencijskih fotografija, Bloomberg ima snimke ozbiljnih redova, uz tvrdnju da sve vise bankomata ostaje bez novca. Edited June 27, 2015 by Грешни Василије Link to comment
foto Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 sto se bank run fotografija tice, nisam video nijednu agencijsku sliku, a video sam i fotke sa ljudima koji stoje ispred bankomata u zimskoj odeci, na 26 stepeni. tako da jury is still out edit: ima agencijskih fotografija, Bloomberg ima snimke ozbiljnih redova, uz tvrdnju da sve vise bankomata ostaje bez novca. eno Vaso na fejsu Jaksa Scekic pustio jos prepodne slike sa godisnjeg odmora u grckoj. redovi ispred ATMa i pumpi, itd.. Link to comment
MancMellow Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Eurozone finance ministers have rejected a Greek request to extend a bailout programme beyond 30 June. Eurogroup head Jeroen Dijsselbloem said negotiations over a new bailout were ongoing late on Friday when Greece called a surprise referendum over the terms of any deal. By doing so they broke off the process, he said. He said finance ministers would reconvene to discuss the consequences of the latest developments. BBC Link to comment
Tribun_Populi Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Double Grexit & the end of EU as we knew it? Link to comment
MancMellow Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 realno, ko zna. jedna strana ne popusta uopste (mislim, popustaju na jednom frontu da bi zategli na drugom), druga strana kao odgovor na to stalno dize uloge. Postoje tri strane (Evrogrupa, IMF i GR vlada) koje politicki ne mogu da idu ispod nekog minimuma, ali je poenta u tome sto su ti njihovi minimumi prazan skup. ECB moze (u teoriji) da spasi stvar do 5. jula, ali ne verujem da ce. Mada je tezina njihove odluke monumentalna, ipak je donekle tehnicka. double grexit bi bio kosmaran scenario za celo poluostrvo. Link to comment
Prospero Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) 27/06/2015 | 17:45 Since the 20 February 2015 agreement of the Eurogroup on the extension of the current financial assistance arrangement, intensive negotiations have taken place between the institutions and the Greek authorities to achieve a successful conclusion of the review. Given the prolonged deadlock in negotiations and the urgency of the situation, institutions have put forward a comprehensive proposal on policy conditionality, making use of the given flexibility within the current arrangement. Regrettably, despite efforts at all levels and full support of the Eurogroup, this proposal has been rejected by the Greek authorities who broke off the programme negotiations late on the 26 June unilaterally. The Eurogroup recalls the significant financial transfers and support provided to Greece over the last years. The Eurogroup has been open until the very last moment to further support the Greek people through a continued growth-oriented programme. The Eurogroup takes note of the decision of the Greek government to put forward a proposal to call for a referendum, which is expected to take place on Sunday July 5, which is after the expiration of the programme period. The current financial assistance arrangement with Greece will expire on 30 June 2015, as well as all agreements related to the current Greek programme including the transfer by euro area Member States of SMP and ANFA equivalent profits. The euro area authorities stand ready to do whatever is necessary to ensure financial stability of the euro area. [1] Supported by all members of the Eurogroup except the Greek member. via TT Edited June 27, 2015 by Prospero Link to comment
Аврам Гојић Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Ed Conway@EdConwaySky Very surreal atmosphere in press room here in Brussels. One journalist in tears. Most reporters shocked euro rupture is happening. #Greece Link to comment
radisa Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 OK, ideje, kretanje € u odnosu na CHF ili USD u ponedeljak? Imali smisla raditi konvertovanje? Link to comment
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