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  1. 1. da sam podanik krune, glasao bih za:

    • jednookog skotskog idiota (broon)
      17
    • aristokratskog humanoida (cameron)
      17
    • dosadnog liberala (clegg)
      34
    • patriotski blok (ukip ili bnp)
      31

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Barroso, kao i njegov nasljednik su samo servis Councila - i njegov ne je pravni stav Komisije. Nekakav overriding akt se može osmisliti u toku te jedne godine, naravno, uz dobru volju. Salmond naravno ne može biti siguran da će te dobre volje biti - ali, ta eventualna secesija bi ipak bila dogovorena, pa bi se ionako moralo raditi i sukcesiju ugovora... itd. itd.

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Barroso, kao i njegov nasljednik su samo servis Councila - i njegov ne je pravni stav Komisije. Nekakav overriding akt se može osmisliti u toku te jedne godine, naravno, uz dobru volju. Salmond naravno ne može biti siguran da će te dobre volje biti - ali, ta eventualna secesija bi ipak bila dogovorena, pa bi se ionako moralo raditi i sukcesiju ugovora... itd. itd.

 

pa ako predstavnik EK kaže tako nešto u Londonu i to kaže vrlo direktno i bez uvijanja, a sa druge strane nije bilo nijedne poluzvanične izjave kako će se osmisliti plan da Škotska uđe/ostane u EU, onda je normalno da se veruje zvaničnim kanalima koji o tome pričaju. Naravno da se može odraditi svašta, ali to bi bilo samo izvrdavanje prava, a ne poštovanje strogih normi o članstvu u EU. Takođe, ne vidim motivaciju da se olakša prijem Škotske na bilo koji način, ne samo zbog Španije već i zbog predstojećeg referenduma o ostanku u EU Velike Britanije, gde bi građani iste možda pomislili da batale celu stvar zbog nekorektnosti EU. 

 

Što se tiče konačnog ugovora o secesiji Škotske koji bi trebao uslediti posle YES-vote-a, UK za sada pažljivo ali uporno šalje signale da neće biti blagonaklona prema Škotskoj i to za sada na polju ekonomije: najavljeno je od strane tri vodeće stranke da monetarne unije neće biti, predstavništva velikih firmi su najavila svoj odlazak iz Škotske. U debatama na BBC-u, gde karavan ide po raznim mestima Škotske i gde su učesnici političari vodećih škotskih partija (a gde je samo SNP za secesiju), vidi se stav da se građani pribojavaju ekonomskih rezultata secesije, dok oni koji podržavaju YES vote, idu na inaćenje i srbovanjeudaranje u škotske gajde...

 

Salmond nema nikakav plan za monetu, nema nikakav plan ukoliko se automatski ne priklljuči EU. Cela njegova priča o secesiji je zasnovana na dobroj volji UK i EU da mu podare mimo prava ono što on misli da mu pripada, a zapravo je kako vidimo, vrlo daleko od izvedbe...

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UKIP 4 DA WIN

 

Nigel Farage's UKIP has been given a boost in a new poll which puts support for the party at 20%, four points higher than last month.

It comes after he was said to have come out top in the head-to-head clashes with Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg over Britain's future in Europe.

It is UKIP's highest rating in a ComRes survey, while the Conservatives have scored their lowest rating so far this year at 29%, down three.

In the new poll for the Independent on Sunday and Sunday Mirror, the Tories are six points behind Labour which are unchanged on 35%.

The Liberal Democrats have fallen to just 7% - a dip of two points and their lowest since they went into coalition with the Conservatives in 2010.

Mr Farage's personal rating also appears to have received a boost after the recent debates.

The UKIP chief has enjoyed a seven-point bounce since February, taking him to 27%.

Deputy Prime Minister Mr Clegg is down one point to 12%, while Prime Minister David Cameron has dropped four points to 27% and Labour leader Ed Miliband is down two points to 20%.

Mr Cameron's rating may have been dented by his handling of the expenses furore involving former culture secretary Maria Miller.

Some 62% of voters believe he showed a serious lack of leadership in the way he dealt with the case.

Most voters, 62%, believe constituents should be able to force sitting MPs to defend their seat in a by-election if enough people sign a petition demanding it, the research found.

Sky News Political Correspondent Anushka Asthana said: "We're only a few weeks out from the European elections and UKIP are kind of what the Lib Dems used to be - the party that stands against the establishment.

"They used to just talk about Europe - now it is local, popular issues such as HS2.

"The Conservatives are really badly hit by UKIP rising because that tends to split the right.

"And pollsters say if UKIP get anything over eight points in a general election they would split the right and would stop David Cameron from winning an overall majority.

"So he will be very worried about that."

Meanwhile, a Opinium poll for the Observer newspaper puts the Conservatives on 30%, Labour 36%, Lib Dems 7% and UKIP on 18%.
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Pa počistio je Nick Clegga u debati na BBC-u. Ne čudi me da čak i normalan čovek može glasati UKIP, čudi me da Clegg ima 7%...

 

 

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Tako je to kada se od anti-war party u vreme Kenedija, pretvori u nevidljivi, birokratski buckuris, wamongering party Klega i njegovog politickog oca Pedija Esdauna.

Ne ide.

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Tako je to kada se od anti-war party u vreme Kenedija, pretvori u nevidljivi, birokratski buckuris, wamongering party Klega i njegovog politickog oca Pedija Esdauna.

Ne ide.

AŠto je najgore, UKIP je sada Anti-War stranka...

 

 

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Upravo, sto dobro govori o raskoraku javnog mnjenja i elite, a koji se prvi put video prilikom sirijskog glasanja, kada su Redvud, Dejdvid Dejvis i Galovej zajedno glasali.

 

Jebote, lik ladno pohvali Putina (kontekst je nebitan) i dobije na popularnosti, a lik koji insistira da je Faradz Putinov potrcko odlazi na margine.

 

O tome sam vec diskutovao sa Mancom na ukrajinskom topicu.

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to je zato što je "you putin-lover" uvreda samo u uskom krugu snobovske elite, običan plebs ume da ceni volođina goluždrava alfamužjačka prsa.  :happy:

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Salmond nema nikakav plan za monetu, nema nikakav plan ukoliko se automatski ne priklljuči EU. Cela njegova priča o secesiji je zasnovana na dobroj volji UK i EU da mu podare mimo prava ono što on misli da mu pripada, a zapravo je kako vidimo, vrlo daleko od izvedbe...

 

Salmond ima plan da na raznorazne bajkovite priče namakne nekih 45% za nezavisnost, pa da onda to iskoristi da ispregovara neki devo max u stilu više od autonomije, manje od nezavisnosti...

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Co-op maltene puko..

 

The Co-op Group has today revealed catastrophic losses of £2.5billion for the past year.

Acting chief executive Richard Pennycook has admitted: '2013 was a disastrous year, the worst in our 250 year history'.

The monumental losses follow the near-collapse of its banking arm, which had a £1.5billion black hole in its finances and nearly sank the whole group, which employs 90,000 staff in the UK.

It came a day after the Co-op Bank's former chairman Reverend Paul Flowers was charged with drugs offences.

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Scottish independence: Scottish Enterprise and Visit Scotland leave CBI

 

Government agencies Scottish Enterprise and Visit Scotland have quit business lobby organisation CBI after it formally backed the campaign against Scottish independence.

A statement from Scottish Enterprise said CBI Scotland had taken a "political decision".

It said it "had no choice but to immediately resign" from the CBI.

Tourism body VisitScotland also said it was "appropriate to withdraw from the organisation" in light of the decision.

A Scottish government spokesman said: "The CBI has registered as a campaign organisation for a No Vote in the referendum.

"In these circumstances, it is clearly inappropriate for government agencies to remain in membership of CBI."

The CBI said it was confident the "vast majority" of its membership agreed with its stance on independence.

It has registered with the Electoral Commission as a backer of the pro-Union campaign.

The registration as a non-party participant allows it to spend up to £150,000 on campaigning during the regulated period from 30 May until the referendum on 18 September.

Following its decision, Scottish firms Aquamarine Power and the Balhousie care home group announced they were quitting the business industry organisation, which is the leading body in the UK representing large employers

On Saturday, broadcaster STV said rules on impartiality meant it had "no choice" but to resign from the organisation.

Other CBI members are expected to consider their position next week, among them Glasgow Caledonian University.

The university said it would "continue to maintain its neutral stance in the Scottish independence referendum debate" and its position would be considered by the executive board on Tuesday.

Responding to the withdrawals, a CBI spokesman said: "While any member deciding to leave is a cause for regret, the CBI is confident we have a mandate from the vast majority of our membership on the question of Scottish independence.

"As the UK's biggest business group, our members employ around half a million people in Scotland, which gives us a significant voice in the referendum debate."

But in an open letter to CBI Scotland chief executive Iain McMillan, which was released on Friday, Select - which represents 1,250 engineering companies - said: "In taking this action you do not reflect our views."

The letter added: "The owners of our member companies and their employees, like the rest of the Scottish population, cover the full range of political affiliations.

"We are agreed that the way in which each and every person associated with Select votes is a matter for them alone."

 

 

ALEX Salmond is on the brink of securing a historic victory in the referendum, according to an exclusive poll suggesting Yes Scotland needs a swing of just over 2 per cent to win independence.

 

A landmark ICM survey for today’s Scotland on Sunday reveals a decline in the No vote from 46 per cent to 42 per cent over the past month. Over the same period, the Yes vote has remained steady at 39 per cent, resulting in a significant tightening of the gap between the two sides.

When the 19 per cent “don’t knows” are excluded from the equation, the No vote stands at 52 per cent, with 48 per cent in favour of Scotland going it alone. This is the highest level of Yes support to be recorded by an independently commissioned opinion poll.

Further analysis reveals that the 460,000 people who live in Scotland but were born in England could play a major role in the outcome of the referendum.

According to the survey, the 15 per cent of the 1,004 sample who were born in England are far more likely to vote No than their Scottish-born counterparts. :thumbdown:

Only 28 per cent of English-born voters say they will vote Yes, compared with 58 per cent who say they will vote No.

This contrasts with Scots-born voters who, taken alone, are in favour of independence by 42 per cent to 40 per cent.

The small sample size means some caution is required. But yesterday Professor John Curtice, the Strathclyde University elections expert, acknowledged that the reluctance of English-born voters to embrace independence could prove crucial when votes are cast on 18 September.

“In a tight race, they could yet hold the key to the referendum,” Curtice said. “It is an indication that appealing to the non-Scots-born part of the population is rather more difficult for the Yes side to achieve.

“They are more likely to retain a sense of British identity and they are more likely to want to remain part of the UK. They are internal UK migrants.”

Looking at the responses to the independence question as a whole, Curtice said that today’s survey was the closest seen so far in the referendum campaign, which will heat up this week as both sides launch new poster campaigns in an attempt to win more people to their causes.

“This is another poll showing the No side is in a real battle if it wants to keep Scotland in the Union,” said Curtice. “When the ‘don’t knows’ are excluded, it is the highest Yes vote in a poll that has not been commissioned by a partisan organisation.”

The poll is the latest in a series of surveys that have made worrying reading for the Better Together campaign. This week, Labour will attempt to rejuvenate the No campaign by holding a meeting of its shadow cabinet in Glasgow on Friday.

In what promises to be a big week for Ed Miliband’s party, former prime minister Gordon Brown will speak from a Better Together platform for the first time on Tuesday when he will argue that an independent Scotland would struggle to cover escalating pension costs.

Until now, Brown has only spoken on constitutional matters under a Labour banner. His decision to join the cross-party Better Together will be seen as an attempt to bury his differences with Alistair Darling, the campaign leader.

Critics of Better Together’s strategy have suggested that Labour’s “big beasts”, such as shadow foreign secretary Douglas Alexander and shadow international development secretary Jim Murphy, should do more campaigning for the UK.

By holding its shadow cabinet north of the Border, Labour is signalling that its big players are stepping up their fight for the Union.

All members of Labour’s top team will be out campaigning for a No vote from Inverness to the Borders.

The shadow Scottish secretary, Margaret Curran, said: “This week we will be saying loud and clear that the best prospects for a stronger Scotland lie with Scotland remaining part of the United Kingdom.”

Last night, Scotland on Sunday’s poll was welcomed by Yes Scotland’s chief executive, Blair Jenkins.

He said: ‘This is another very encouraging poll – the narrowest gap in the campaign so far and a swing of just two points is all that is needed to put Yes ahead, which we are confident of achieving.

“Our latest poster campaign shows that we are stepping up activity further in the months ahead to achieve a Yes vote on 18 September – and deliver a fairer, more prosperous country to benefit everyone who lives here.”

Jenkins added: “The extreme negativity of the No campaign is proving a major turn-off for voters, and month by month they are paying the price.”

Better Together’s campaign director, Blair MacDougall, said he was unsurprised that people born in England were in favour of retaining the Union.

“It’s no surprise that people born elsewhere in the UK now living in Scotland strongly support keeping the UK together.

“With such strong bonds of culture, history and family it’s clear that we are stronger and better together as part of the UK,” MacDougall said.

On the poll’s overall independence finding, MacDougall said: “This poll shows support for leaving the UK at the same level as last month and is just the latest poll to show a majority of Scots want to remain in the UK.

“Whilst it is welcome that there is a majority in favour of keeping the UK together, this poll is a reminder that there can be no complacency from those who believe that the brightest future for Scotland is to remain in the UK.”

He added: “With the launch of our advertising campaign tomorrow and a big grassroots campaign push, we will be fighting hard for every single vote between now and polling day. Everybody who wants to keep Scotland in the UK needs to play their part.”

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