Politika u UK

[jms_uk]

David Cameron confirms a new PM will be in place on Wednesday, with Theresa May set to replace him.

[adam]

bas sad cuo kamerona, sreda, to je to. 

[hazard]

 za labour je u ovom trenutku bolje da sacekaju da korbin odradi jedne izbore pa kad/ako izgubi da ga puste da ode. to je jedini nacin da ne propadnu na jako dugo. 

 

To. Ako sada maknu Korbina, izgledace kao da je bleristicka elita makla autsajdera iz licne sujete i zelje za vlascu, bez da su mu da li sansu da izadje na izbore. Da li bi to bio tacan opis situacije nije bitno, tako bi bilo percipirano medj obicnim svetom. Potpuno bi otudjili dobar deo glasaca na jako dugi rok. Neka Korbin izadje na izbore, pa makar neka je i izgubljen slucaj, ako zglajzne, izgubi zesce i tresne o pod sam ce dati ostavku.

[Dr Arslanagić]

Ne vidim kako mogu da ga smene. Sutra NEC odlučuje o stranačkim izborima i gotovo će sigurno Korbin biti kandidat. Uz to, podržavaju ga sindikati i većina članstva. A i izbori za NEC su uskoro i cenim da će posle njih i tu imati jaku većinu.

 

Pitanje je samo da li će započeti proces deselekcije poslanika. Sigurno može mnogo da ih skine ali je to onda rat i laburisti neće imati baš nikakvu šansu na opštim izborima. Opet, mislim da mora da skine par glava za primer. Zanimljivo mi je da je Burnam odbio da glasa za opoziv Korbina i da Kan gromoglasno ćuti. Oni imaju dobar nos.

[Dr Arslanagić]

 

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[Radoye]

 

 

 

 

taj rad.

[MancMellow]

 

:0.6:

 

adios gluperdos

[Dr Arslanagić]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKKBuZwCH8c

 

Ja mislim da je njegov gnev oko svega ogroman. I mislim da je poslednji atom snage i političkog uticaja iskoristio da makar zajebe onog izdajnika Džonsona. 

[MancMellow]

kad bi mogo nekako da napenali onog gove-a sve bi mu oprostio  ^_^ punchable face kakva se retko srece 

 

ali zajebo je, jbg, uzasno je zajebo, na tom mestu nemas pravo na takvu gresku. jedino sto mozda uspe nekako sebi da obezbedi mesto tragicara, sto je kudikamo bolje od cistog recklessnessa, ali to ostaje da se vidi. 

[Prospero]

[hazard]

jedino sto mozda uspe nekako sebi da obezbedi mesto tragicara, sto je kudikamo bolje od cistog recklessnessa, ali to ostaje da se vidi. 

 

Mislis da ce biti

 

he was so reckless, it was tragic

 

ili

 

he was so stupid, it was tragic

 

:D

[MancMellow]

naive, to je verovatno tacno

 

Elem, novi kandidat za vodju Labour

 

 

Owen Smith (1970), moj favorit da budem iskren. Nije Blerita, cak je prilicno levo, energican, sto se mene tice mnogo bolji izbor za...izbore od Corbyna. Eagle je skroz bez veze. 

 

May je ozbiljan protivnik

 

Edited July 11, 2016 by MancMellow

[Roger Sanchez]

Bru tal no

 

Like Cougar in the opening scenes of Top Gun, Andrea Leadsom has turned in her wings. At high altitude, Leadsom has found the pressure of the Russian MiG up her backside simply too tough to take. Theresa May is going to Miramar.
 

Admittedly, that wasn’t the precise analogy Leadsom deployed just after midday on the steps of her Westminster home. A nine-week leadership campaign at this stage in Britain’s national journey was “highly undesirable”. Consequently, she was withdrawing for the sake of her country, and offering Theresa May her full support. And all this when we were only just getting a sense of Andrea’s emotional relativism. Of May’s inability to have children: “I’m sure Theresa will be really sad.” Of her own 48 hours under media scrutiny for that statement: “It has been shattering.”

Barely an hour before Andrea’s announcement, Theresa May had been launching her own bid for the Tory crown in Birmingham, implying that life was too short to stuff a Leadsom. May declared of her overwhelming victory in the parliamentary stage of the contest: “The result shows that after the referendum the Conservative party can come together.” Admittedly, they came together for an orgy of political homicide. But having devoured their weakest, the nest must now move on together to find new food sources.

There will be no more contests. Drained of her lifeblood, Andrea Leadsom will now have more time to spend with her much-vaunted family. Her final act saw her schedule her press conference directly against Angela Eagle’s one to launch her Labour leadership challenge. Was Andrea Leadsom a brilliant Jeremy Corbyn plant all along? Inquiring minds want to know.
 

If that conspiracy is not to your tastes, incidentally, there are others on offer. Leadsom’s supporters were somewhat less magnanimous than their candidate in defeat. The minute Andrea had finished speaking, Iain Duncan Smith told the cameras there had been “a genuine operation to demean Andrea”, repeating his claim yesterday that his candidate had been the victim of “black ops” manoeuvring. Before you laugh, remember that Iain does know all about covert ops. The Tories render him to a black site every time they have to fight an election, and keep him there until the risk of him being clapped eyes on is no longer result-sensitive.

But Iain is not the only customer at the tinfoil milliner. Standing next to Leadsom, her campaign manager Tim Loughton looked too tearful to talk at this time, but has since invited the world into his mind palace with a written statement decrying “underhand tactics”. Like Kenny in South Park, irony has died weekly of late. This week’s grisly end came on Sunday when Tim cast criticism of Leadsom as some kind of Big Politics conspiracy. To wit: “The establishment seem to be ‘getting’ Andrea.” The what, Tim? The WHAT? I mean … We really have seen it all now. That has to be the most advanced case yet of the general mania for claiming stratification and elitism in an attempt to win an argument. To recap: the definition of the word “establishment” has now become so imbecilically elastic that even the upper reaches of the Conservative party have one. The Windsors are now literally the last entity in the land not to have an “establishment” wing forever trying to exclude “outsiders” like Prince Charles, or whoever.

For those of us who have spent the past few weeks with our noses pressed up against the thunderdome, where are we now? You are very likely having trouble keeping track of developments in Wonderland. Even the things that have stayed the same now seem unthinkably bizarre. For instance, being told that Michael Gove is still technically justice secretary is a bit like being told that Ariel Sharon was still alive seven years after he went into the coma. It was factually true, of course – but I think most of us had long since said our goodbyes.

For your records, outgoing home secretary Theresa May is now the social justice candidate. Today, she stated that for ordinary families, “life is much harder than many people in politics realise”. With her leadership, we can expect a “different kind of conservatism”. “We don’t just believe in individualism,” she explained, “but in society.” Well quite. We now may have detached from the EU mainframe and be heading toward distilling our drinking water from our own urine. But now, more than ever, you just know we’ll all be in it together.

On one thing, May was very clear: “Brexit means Brexit – and we’re going to make a success of it.” She went so far as to repeat this statement twice during her speech, making it the most economically questionable chorus since Starship’s “We built this city on rock and roll”.

Still, nodding towards history, the prime minister-in-waiting wound up by declaring: “It has been the Conservative party’s role to rise to the occasion … At moments of great national change, we have understood what needs to be done.” And on behalf of all those who have enjoyed the slasher movie they’ve staged for the gaiety of the nation, I can only offer heartfelt thanks.

 

[MancMellow]

Hyde je properly pissed off i pise bolje neg ikad. Ko zna, mozda ovo konacno donese i neku podnosljivu pop muziku...

 

 

Which leaves us with Theresa May. Has it really come to this? Yes. Yes, I’m afraid it has. There are few neater indicators of quite how far we’ve travelled over the past 14 days than to find so many people, particularly non-Tory voters, now actively yearning for it to be Theresa May. “Christ,” muttered one friend with wry despair, “I now want this more than I did Obama.” Yup, we’re all realpolitikos now. Stick a fork in my dreams. They’re done.

Edited July 11, 2016 by MancMellow

[Prospero]

'I know I'm not showy': Theresa May in her own words

 
Theresa May is set to become Britain's next prime minister, lauded by her supporters as a safe pair of hands who can steer the country out of the European Union.
One of the most experienced members of the government, May favoured staying in the European Union, but her support during last month's referendum campaign was qualified and low-key. Since the vote, she has made clear that 'Brexit means Brexit'.

She is now the only candidate to succeed David Cameron in a Conservative Party leadership race after energy minister Andrea Leadsom abruptly withdrew.
Below is a summary of May's background and key quotes.

HOW SHE GOT HERE:

The daughter of a Church of England vicar, May studied geography at Oxford University, joining the Bank of England after her studies. She worked as a financial consultant at the Association for Payment Clearing Services (APACS) before becoming a lawmaker for Maidenhead, west of London, in 1997.
She became chairman of the Conservative Party in 2002, famously telling supporters at its conference that year that people saw them as "the nasty party".
She has been Home Secretary since 2010. By next month she will have held the job, one of the toughest in British politics, for longer than anyone else for a century.
"I know I'm not a showy politician," she said when she announced her bid to become prime minister in June. "I don't tour the television studios. I don't gossip about people over lunch. I don't go drinking in parliament's bars. I don't often wear my heart on my sleeve. I just get on with the job in front of me."

WHAT SHE HAS SAID ON BREXIT:

"Brexit means Brexit. The campaign was fought, the vote was held, turnout was high, and the public gave their verdict. There must be no attempts to remain inside the EU, no attempts to rejoin it through the back door, and no second referendum." (June 30)
"I don't think we should see people as Brexiteers and Remainers now. We have a job to do in making the best deal we can in coming out of the EU and I am very clear that I will deliver Brexit." (July 8)

ON WHEN TO TRIGGER ARTICLE 50 OF LISBON TREATY AND LAUNCH DIVORCE PROCEEDINGS WITH THE EU:

"There should be no decision to invoke Article 50 until the British negotiating strategy is agreed and clear – which means Article 50 should not be invoked before the end of this year." (June 30)
 
ON THE EU SINGLE MARKET, TRADE AND FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT:
 
"We should make clear that for the foreseeable future there is absolutely no change in Britain's trading relationships with the EU or other markets." (June 30)
"What’s important for us though, is that we get the right deal, and that’s a deal that is about controlling free movement, but it’s also about ensuring that we’ve got the best deal possible in trade, in goods and services." (July 3)
"I want to be clear that as we conduct our negotiations, it must be a priority to allow British companies to trade with the single market in goods and services – but also to regain more control of the numbers of people who come here from Europe." (June 30)
"I’m very clear that Brexit vote gave us a very clear message from people, that we couldn’t allow freedom of movement to continue as it had done hitherto.
"We need to bring control into movement of people coming into the UK from the EU... Still I believe we should have that goal of bringing immigration down to sustainable levels." (July 3)

 

BRITAIN'S ECONOMY

 

"We should no longer seek to reach a budget surplus by the end of the Parliament. If before 2020 there is a choice between further spending cuts, more borrowing and tax rises, the priority must be to avoid tax increases since they would disrupt consumption, employment and investment." (June 30)
"In the coming weeks I will set out (how) to take our economy through this period of uncertainty, to get the economy growing strongly across all parts, to deal with Britain's long-standing productivity problem, to create more well-paid jobs, to negotiate the best terms for Britain's departure from the EU and to forge a new role for ourselves in the world." (July 11)

 

ON DEFENCE, AND REPLACING BRITAIN'S NUCLEAR DETERRENT

 

"A Conservative government I lead will make a strong defence an important priority. It is vital for our national interest that we maintain what is the most significant security and military capability in Europe – backed up by our commitment to spend 2 per cent of gross domestic product on defence.
"In particular, it is crucial that we maintain our independent nuclear deterrent. It would be sheer madness to contemplate even for a moment giving up Britain's independent nuclear deterrent...
"We need a full fleet of four submarines, capable between them of providing what the military call 'Continuous At Sea Deterrence', or permanent, around-the-clock cover." (July 4)

 

CORPORATE GOVERNANCE

 

"The FTSE (share index), for example, is trading at about the same level as it was 18 years ago and it is nearly 10 percent below its high peak. Yet in the same period executive pay has more than trebled and there is an irrational, unhealthy and growing gap between what these companies pay their workers and what they pay their bosses.
"I want to make shareholder votes on corporate pay not just advisory but binding. I want to see more transparency, including the full disclosure of bonus targets and the publication of 'pay multiple' data: that is, the ratio between the CEO's pay and the average company worker's pay.
"And I want to simplify the way bonuses are paid so that bosses' incentives are better aligned with the long-term interests of the company and its shareholders.
"I also want us to be prepared to use - and reform - competition law so that markets work better for people. If there is evidence that the big utility firms and the retails banks are abusing their roles in highly consolidated markets, we shouldn't just complain about it, we shouldn't say it's too difficult, we should do something about it.
"If I'm prime minister, we're going to change the system- and we're going to have not just consumers represented on company boards, but employees as well." (July 11)

 

TAX

 

"It doesn't matter to me whether you're Amazon, Google or Starbucks, you have a duty to put something back, you have a debt to your fellow citizens, you have a responsibility to pay your taxes. So as prime minister, I will crack down on individual and corporate tax avoidance and evasion." (July 11)

 

PRODUCTIVITY/INVESTMENT

 

"I want to see an energy policy that emphasises the reliability of supply and lower costs for users. A better research and development policy that helps firms to make the right investment decisions.
"More Treasury-backed project bonds for new infrastructure projects. More house building. A proper industrial strategy to get the whole economy firing. And a plan to help not one or even two of our great regional cities but every single one of them." (July 11)

 

FOREIGN CORPORATE TAKEOVERS

 

"Two years ago the Government almost allowed AstraZeneca to be sold to Pfizer, the U.S. company with a track record of asset stripping and whose self-confessed attraction to the deal was to avoid tax.
"A proper industrial strategy wouldn’t automatically stop the sale of British firms to foreign ones, but it should be capable of stepping in to defend a sector that is as important as pharmaceuticals is to Britain." (July 11)

 

PERSONAL LIFE

 

May has Type One diabetes and needs insulin injections several times a day. She describes herself as a practising Christian and says she owns over 100 cookery books.
"I think it’s important that you are on top of things, you’re on top of your brief, you work hard in your brief. But I think if the view is that somehow that I was a control freak and that people didn’t get on and like my style, we wouldn’t have a majority of ministers who're worked with me actually backing me for Prime Minister." (July 3)
"I like to keep my personal life personal. We couldn’t have children, we dealt with it and moved on. I hope nobody would think that mattered; I can still empathise, understand people and care about fairness and opportunity." (July 8)

Edited July 11, 2016 by Prospero