napadaj Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Ti zaista misliš da su CEO tvitera i fejsbuka naprasno postali levičari i/ili zgroženi ahem nemilim scenama od pre 3 dana rešili da ga zauvek banuju? Čoveka koji ima 82 miliona pratilaca? Njima je neko iz nacionalne bezbednosti rekao da ovo urade. Ovo što se sada dogadja je izolacija predsednika, virtuelni kućni pritvor. Dok ne prestane da bude predsednik. Danas su prikazali isečak “60 minutes” intervjua sa Nensi Pelozi, koji će biti emitovan u nedelju. Pitali je “ko je sada na čelu izvršne vlasti”. Ona je odbila da da odgovor. To ti sve govori. Tramp faktički više nije predsednik. Ministri u njegovoj vladi daju ostavke, savetnici mu ne odgovaraju na pozove. On sedi u Beloj Kuci i više ne komanduje nikom, potpuno je izolovan.Uopšte nisam rekao bilo šta o svemu tome, samo sam ispravio one koji su rekli da je privremeno banovan. Link to comment
pasha Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Krošek said: moze preko kongresa Misls da on nema prava da se zali u krajnjem Vrhovnom sudu na takvu odluku? Pitam, mozda i nema, ali da li znas ti. Edited January 9, 2021 by pasha Link to comment
Krošek Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 nema koliko znam, to je procedura propisana ustavom Link to comment
dragance Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Vrhovni sud se ne sme/ne može mešati u tom procesu. Link to comment
pasha Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Uzgred ovo sto rade najvece drustvane mreze je lose. To se tako ne radi ako se zeli postici ono sto oni zele. Ali sada je vec gotovo. Link to comment
pasha Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Krošek said: nema koliko znam, to je procedura propisana ustavom Sama procedura smene ili odluka o smeni? Link to comment
vememah Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Krošek said: moze preko kongresa Senata. Quote In short, the ability of Trump — or any president who gets impeached, for that matter — to seek re-election while impeached is entirely up to the Senate. According to Article I, Section 3 of the United States Constitution, ”Judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.” The Senate could not only vote for impeachment and subsequent removal from office with a 2/3 majority vote, but it could also vote to ban Trump from ever running for office again. But even if the Senate convicts Trump and removes him from office — which is unlikely in itself, since unlike the House, the Republican Party holds a majority in the Senate — they can theoretically allow Trump to run for office again and he could go on with his re-election bid as if nothing happened, as long as he is nominated as the Republican candidate again. https://www.clickorlando.com/features/2020/01/20/can-an-impeached-president-run-for-re-election/ Edited January 9, 2021 by vememah Link to comment
pasha Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Dakle i u tome slucaju opet moze da se kandiduje. Link to comment
Krošek Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) house of representatives i senat su kongres. procedura mora da prodj oba doma da bi se doslo do te sankcije Just now, pasha said: Dakle i u tome slucaju opet moze da se kandiduje. pise da bi u teoriji isti organ koji mu je izrekao tu zabranu, istu mogao i ukinuti... u teoriji Edited January 9, 2021 by Krošek 1 Link to comment
Hamlet Strašni Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Pa impičment ide preko predstavničkog a sama smena, tj. osuda ide u senatu. Za osudu 2/3 prisutnih, za zabranu prosta većina. Link to comment
pasha Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) Uzgred ovo izgleda kao da se demokrate boje Tramp 2024. Pitanje je samo trenutka kada ce krenuti ta prica od Trampa. Edited January 9, 2021 by pasha Link to comment
dragance Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Meni ne izgleda. Čovek je očigledno poremećen. 3 Link to comment
Krošek Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I da se ne boje, treba da mu zabrane iz simbolickih razloga 2 Link to comment
JozoMujica Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Redoran said: Može da ga napravi ali potencijalni korisnici neće imati odakle da skinu aplikaciju. Za drustvenu mrezu dovoljan je i browser, a i aplikacija moze da se skine sa sajta proizvodjaca, ne mora sve preko Google Play ili App Store-a. 1 Link to comment
vememah Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hamlet Strašni said: Pa impičment ide preko predstavničkog a sama smena, tj. osuda ide u senatu. Za osudu 2/3 prisutnih, za zabranu prosta većina. Tako je. Quote Unlike removal, disqualification from office is a discretionary judgment, and there is no explicit constitutional linkage to the two-thirds vote on conviction. Although an argument can be made that disqualification should nonetheless require a two-thirds vote, the Senate has determined that disqualification may be accomplished by a simple majority vote. https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-2/49-judgment-removal-and-disqualification.html Link to comment
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