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Biden / Trump - Americki izbori 2020


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9 minutes ago, ObiW said:

U Americi je u suštini u petak izvršen državni udar.

A ovo je odbrana demokratije na samom izvoru:

24 minutes ago, ObiW said:

Njima je neko iz nacionalne bezbednosti rekao da ovo urade. Ovo što se sada dogadja je izolacija predsednika, virtuelni kućni pritvor. Dok ne prestane da bude predsednik. 

:isuse: 

:laugh:

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twiter, facebook i ostale medijske kanalizacije su privatne kompanije i mogu da banuju koga hoce.
kraj price.
 
 
Come the Revolution, ima to sve da se nacionalizuje i onda lepo, država svakom lojalnom građaninu izda državni nalog na državnom Tviteru, i bog da te vidi.

Ako si preko 60, dobiješ i državni Fejsbuk nalog, mora da se brine i o starima.
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2 minutes ago, Weenie Pooh said:

Come the Revolution, ima to sve da se nacionalizuje i onda lepo, država svakom lojalnom građaninu izda državni nalog na državnom Tviteru, i bog da te vidi.

Ako si preko 60, dobiješ i državni Fejsbuk nalog, mora da se brine i o starima.

 

eno ti Rusija i Kina, ne treba ni da cekas revoluciju (americku).

 

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53 minutes ago, namenski said:

Odlicno.

Amerika je dogurala dovela sebe dotle da neko :isuse: iz nacionalne bezbednosti :isuse: kaze tamo gde treba sta da se uradi sa predsednikom.

Bez ikakve zakonske procedure, pokrica :isuse: izolovati predsednika i staviti ga u kucni pritvor... :isuse: 

 

E, Лаврентије Павловичу, gde si, da učis, НКВД govna da jede....

 

Bolje i to nego da ga puste da bombarduje Iran, što je ozbiljno namerio (ne znam kako ispada da pišem u tvom citiranju, nešto ne radi kako treba).

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And from the early days of his time in office, the power he appeared to relish most was the pardon power. It's near absolute. He need not consult with anyone. And early on, as the Russia probe began to unfold, Trump was asking aides whether he could pardon himself. It's a question he reportedly has returned to in recent weeks.

The president does indeed have broad but not completely unlimited pardoning power. The Constitution gives him the power to pardon others for federal crimes. But he can't pardon himself from impeachment, and he has no authority to pardon for crimes committed under state law. Finally, most, though not all constitutional law scholars believe he cannot pardon himself.

Michigan State University law professor Brian Kalt has written extensively about the pardon power. While some scholars argue that that power is absolute, he says that...

BRIAN KALT: Allowing self-pardons would violate that principle that no one can be the judge in their own case.

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Harvard Law Professor Jack Goldsmith has examined all of Trump's pardons and sentence commutations.
JACK GOLDSMITH: We determined that at least 85 of the 94 have some personal or political connection to Trump and were self-serving in that way.

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GOLDSMITH: Trump loves to exercise the hard powers of the office of the presidency, and he especially loves to do so if he thinks there's something in it for him personally and if he thinks it will make the political elites' heads explode.

[NPR legal affairs correspondent Nina] TOTENBERG: Until now, no president has pardoned himself. Nixon contemplated it, but faced with his own Justice Department's legal opinion that it would be unconstitutional, he didn't do it. Now, though, there's concern about creating such a precedent. Kenneth Gormley is president of Duquesne University in Pittsburgh and author of a book about presidential powers.

[President of Duquesne University in Pittsburgh and author of a book about presidential powers] KENNETH GORMLEY: If you play this out, a president before leaving the White House could, for instance, sell the greatest state secrets, the nuclear codes for a billion dollars and then pardon himself on the way out the door....

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/08/954994502/can-trump-pardon-himself

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Sve ovo ce imati nekog smisla ako bude optuzen, procesuiran i osudjen. Ako bude odgovarao za nesto u realnom svetu, recimo za ovih 5 mrtvih. Ako se, ipak, sve zavrsi na banu sa Tvitera, da bi se mladi™ busali u grudi kako su pobedili fasistu banom bas kao njihovi preci, koje su nabijali na kolac, onda nista. To sto ne mozes da vidis njega i njegove krezube horde to ne znaci da one ne postoje. 

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Katastrofalni potezi demokrata nakon ciste situacije koju su imali nakon upada u Kapitol.

1) Bajden koji pravi razliku izmedju protestanata umesto da sve svali na vrh Republilaknaca i/ili Tramp. Pre nego sto je zvanicno postao predsednik je podelio ljude a dosao je na platformi smirivanje i ujedinjenja. FOX vec eksplatise i republikanski mediji.

 

2) Masovno skidanje naloga, desetine hiljada, sa drustvenih mreza se lako okrene u cenzuru i krsenje Prvog amadmana. Ne, drustvane mreze ne migu da rade sta hoce, postoji Ustav SAD i Prvi amadman-sloboda govora, tviter je skinuo Trampu poruku kada je pozivao na smiravanje situacije i povlacenje sa Kapitola. Kako ce to da zvuci na sudu? Umesto da se samo vrhuska udari ako se to zeli.

 

3) Ludjenje sa impicmentom koji nikako ne moze da prodje.

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Treba da pokusaju impicment ali mislim da ne mogu da stignu. Ali svejedno, moraju da pokusaju.

edit: Mislim na conviction u senatu, na ceo proces. 

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1 minute ago, Hamlet Strašni said:

Pretpostavljam da hoće da mu zabrane da se ikada ponovo kandiduje za bilo šta

 

To mora da ide preko suda, to ne moze preko Kongresa.

Mogu samo da ga dignu politicki.

 

Smena ne moze nikako da prodje bez podrske GOP. Dakle ovo nije protiv Trampa vec GOP ali demokrate su napravile neke pogresne korake koje su sada ponovo zbile redove GOP.

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