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Ovde bi trebalo pogledati protiv kojih ekipa je Phillips skupio 17 nastupa, mecevi poput Palaca, Sheff U, WBA ce sigurno podici statistiku ukoliko ne igra protiv Spursa, Chelsea, klubova iz Manchestera....

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Inside the Manchester United fans’ forum with Joel Glazer

Andy Mitten 3h ago 

Manchester United’s extraordinary fans’ forum on Friday was the first time Joel Glazer had communicated with supporters since a brief message where he promised to do exactly that after the controversial 2005 takeover.

The meeting, over Zoom, lasted last two hours 10 minutes — 20 minutes more than scheduled. The 11 fans didn’t receive payment for their time but switched work and family holidays around so that they could attend a second forum in three weeks. Some points were pre-submitted to Glazer in a letter to him at the previous fans’ forum — the vast majority were not. The tone of the conversation was described by one club source as a “polite, respectful and constructive dialogue” and that “United didn’t want to come into the meeting with a pre-cooked plan. The club wanted dialogue”.

Administered by the club’s Chief Operating Officer, Mancunian Collette Roche, the meeting began with each fan introducing themselves to Glazer. They were Chas Banks, James Coatsworth, Keith Coutts, Alan Harvey, Janine Kasmir, John Massey, Richard McGagh, Anthony Sewart, Ian Stirling, Kieran Stockton and Mick Thorne. Each outlined their role. Banks, for example, represents United Disabled Supporters’ Association; McGagh is the season ticket holder rep; Stirling is from MUST, United’s supporters’ trust. There were members representing United’s supporters’ branches, senior fans, family stand members, local fans and so on. Fans were invited to submit questions to be put to Glazer.

Joel Glazer said “Pleased to meet you” to each of them, before McGagh read the following statement, which had been agreed by all eleven:

“We want Manchester United to be the best football club in the world, both on and off the pitch.

“We believe this is best achieved through fans — who are the club — having a much more active role in the way the club is run and how it operates.

“Our success should never be measured by the profit we generate. Or the number of social media interactions we receive.

“Success for Manchester United Football Club should be measured by the way our teams play, the trophies we win, the development of youth players who break into the first team, the quality of our stadium and facilities, the investment and time we spend in the local community and the enjoyment, respect and voice we give to our fans.

“Manchester United Football Club should always strive to be No 1 but should never arrogantly believe we are. We should always engage with match-going supporters to identify where we can improve, how we can give more back and how we can resolve any issues fans are facing.

“The club should use its position to do good for the wider game including clubs and fans at all levels. We should never lose sight of the role football plays in communities around the world and we should ensure grassroots football and the whole football pyramid gets a fair share of the money the game generates to protect it for future generations.

“Manchester United Football Club should always remember and celebrate our rich history. And we should always invest in our future and place youth, both on the pitch and in the stands, at the heart of what we do.

“The shareholders of our football club are only ever temporary custodians. They must work tirelessly to understand what the club means to its fans and to ensure all decisions they take are done in the best interests of the fans and the team.

“Joel, if you truly do understand the football club you currently own the majority of shares in then act now. Make the significant changes we have requested. Let us have a proper voice. Give fans the opportunity to buy shares with the same voting rights you have. Do not limit the amount we can buy. We will pay the market rate for them. And we will make the club the best in the world in all areas. Because we love the club. We always have and we always will. We will always put it first. And we will always be here, forever and ever.”

“That’s a good start to the meeting and will hopefully set the tone,” said Roche, who then passed onto Joel Glazer.

“I’ll go off agenda for one second because that was very meaningful to me,” said Glazer. “Everything you said is what I believe in ultimately. We don’t know each other and I’m far away right now talking to you through a screen, but you hit upon the points that I truly believe that football is all about. Football has changed a lot over the years but I can tell that we are broadly on the same page with what we want with this football club.”

The agenda followed. There was an operational update from Roche, talking about a return of fans at Old Trafford, ticketing and season tickets. She added that the stadium will have new LED floodlights installed, the Premier League had given United an award for the best pitch and that COVID-19 restrictions were likely to continue into next season. A further update centred on new floodlights and pitches being brought in at the training ground and there was a response to criticism about the facilities for the women’s and academy teams with the news that they will start to train in one location after more improvements.

Joel Glazer started talking after 15 minutes, after he’d taken himself off mute. He said he wanted to hit on a lot of issues.

The 50-year-old started with an apology, saying it wasn’t right it was the first time speaking with the fans (in 16 years). He said he can’t change what has happened in the past, but wanted to work on change for the future.

Glazer said last season was unlike any other “with extremely difficult circumstances”, and that he wanted United to win trophies. He agreed that fans are the lifeblood of the club — “we are stewards and someone will be there after us” — and that the recent decision to join a Super League was a mistake and said “sometimes you need a wake-up call”. He apologised for this poor decision-making and said Manchester United would never again enter a new competition without consultation with fans.

Glazer said his family will pay any fines that have been or will be levied by the Super League and explained why they have not engaged with fans; his reason being they never wanted to be out in front of the media, with the manager and players doing the talking instead. He admitted that in retrospect his silence was the wrong approach as created the impression the Glazers didn’t care and that their only concern was “about money and commercial interests”. He said this was not true.

Glazer said he loved Manchester United and while he’d been fortunate to attend games while not living in Manchester, he watched every single match, and took losses by the team “hard”. He said he didn’t like coming second.

Glazer explained that without a successful commercial operation, you cannot have a successful football club but admitted these interests may have come to the fore too much. He felt that when his family took over, the commercial area was one he felt his family could help and claimed many positives had come from this: United had among the highest net transfer spend and wages in world football and they haven’t raised ticket prices in 10 years (though they had shot up in the five years prior, when his father Malcolm was making decisions).

With United leading the way on issues like ticket prices, he said, other clubs were pressured to do the same. This segment of the meeting was later included in United’s press release quoting Glazer as saying: “We want this club to always be successful and win trophies. To compete for trophies requires significant investment. The commercial growth at the club has helped deliver the revenue which ultimately underpins that investment in a sustainable manner.

“That approach has allowed us to have among the highest net transfer spend in world football over the last five years and have one of the highest wage bills. Also, as a direct result of our commercial business, we have kept ticket prices affordable for all fans and not raised season ticket prices in over 10 years. This is an area that we as a club are very proud of.”

Glazer wanted to break down the areas of “conflict” he had with fans and work in a more fruitful way. He explained how he wanted to do that — adding that recent events had caused a lot of that thinking. Glazer proposed strengthening the fans’ forum with elected members — more involvement and more people to get all views, to also create a fan advisory board to consult with the club’s senior leadership, including him, on a regular basis. He said this would be a more intimate opportunity and they could talk about potentially confidential information.

Glazer spoke about a share scheme, described thus in the press release:

“The club has initiated a direct dialogue with MUST with the aim of identifying a mutually beneficial Fan Share Scheme involving a new class of shares which will each carry the same voting rights as the shares owned by the Glazer family. This would establish a foundation for supporters to build a meaningful ownership stake and create a new spirit of partnership with the club.”

He added it could create the largest fan ownership in world sport. He hoped these two ideas could reset the relationship with the supporters and strengthen the club as a whole.

In addition, Glazer said United would fully work with the UK Government’s fan-led review, adding there were a lot of problems in football and the football pyramid that needed to be addressed.

Glazer said he wanted to continue to invest in the academy and balance this with competing in the transfer market. He added that much had gone on behind the scenes adapting the club for the future from a global scouting standpoint, stating: “The world and the transfer market has changed a lot and we’ve had to try to adapt with it. We have put a lot of foundations that have put us in good stead for the future. We don’t always get it right and we didn’t always get it right, but I feel we are definitely on the right track to compete for trophies and be in a position where this club should be.”

With regard to Old Trafford, a stadium which has been criticised for its lack of development in recent years, Glazer stated that increased investment will see upgrades to its infrastructure. He said: “Old Trafford is at the heart of Manchester United and while we have spent over £100 million over the last 10 years on infrastructure projects, we will now accelerate the process of planning much more significant investment and upgrades to the stadium. Rest assured, we will consult with supporters throughout the process to end up with a result we can all be proud of.

“The same goes for our training ground. Preliminary planning work is already underway and there will be significant funding available to further enhance our facilities and ensure they remain world-class.”

Glazer spoke uninterrupted for 21 minutes before Richard Arnold, the club’s Managing Director, filled in detail on the shares, albeit with a bad connection on the call.

Finance director Hemen Tseayo added that United would never enter or leave competitions or move away from Old Trafford without consulting the fans. He explained that United will enable fans — through MUST, whom they’ve been in discussions with since last October — to collectively acquire shares in United and vote as a block. A new class of shares will be introduced with the money going to the club rather than an existing investor (like the Glazers). These would be high vote shares and carry the same voting and economic rights as those owned by the Glazer family.

“The club has been in discussions with MUST regarding a fan share scheme for a number of months and has already sought external legal advice on options. Discussions will now intensify, with the aim of agreeing a plan before the start of the new season,” read the statement.

“The fans will be treated like a seventh Glazer,” was Tseayo’s comment about share ownership.

The questions and answers started after 42 minutes and lasted more than 90. There were more than 100 questions sent in and these should be covered in the minutes from the meeting, which United always release from the fans’ forum. Director of Communications Charlie Brooks set out the first batch. The first question asked for a response to the letter from the last fans’ forum: “You said you acknowledged the need to change, were committed to engage. What immediate actions have you taken? What has changed, what needs to change and what does the process for engagement with fans look like.”

Glazer said he wanted to make one step at a time and that he “didn’t oppose” “fans owning as many shares as possible and building up a meaningful stake”. He didn’t put a cap or deadlines on shares but wanted to get everyone behind the idea and go from there.

The fans each asked detailed questions, all of which were noted. They were forthright and cogent in their views, they talked of wanting action not words. There were no shrinking violets. Keys issues were fans owning shares and having genuine influence, investment in Old Trafford and the team.

A further take-out was Glazer saying United was a very well-run club. Asked why the Glazers took annual dividends, he said the amounts were “modest” “and less than three per cent of our revenue” and that the dividends had never stood in the way of transfers. He added that: “We may have walked away from a transfer because the other side wanted outlandish numbers.”

On United’s much-criticized debt, Glazer said: “We think we have a very comfortable position. We pay a very low interest rate. We had been reducing our debts until the pandemic hit.” He added that United didn’t furlough one person, took no government money and that they would keep investing on the pitch.

Banks, 70, thanked Glazer for the investment in the disabled facilities but talked of his “real hurt” that his shares, which he intended to pass to his son, were compulsorily purchased in the 2005 takeover. Glazer came back to that point several times — he was caught by it. Banks added it “felt wrong” that Glazer’s brother Avram was cashing in £70 million of shares earlier this year when the roof at Old Trafford was leaking, and thought the club had become a laughing stock.

Fans talked about tangible action, about that action being louder than words, about details and dates. And, encouraging though the meeting was perceived to be by those present, that’s what will ultimately matter.

“I’m going to answer every single question,” said Glazer, who’d taken notes and spent another 29 minutes answering them. “And I’m not going to tell you just what you want to hear.” He talked of naming rights for the stadium (no, unless fans want that), expanding Old Trafford, and much more.

He talked the talk, now he must walk the walk.

“It has to be less about words. It has to be about action.” The words of Joel Glazer on Friday, June 4, 2021.

 

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2 minutes ago, John Coltrane said:

 

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A koga ne mrzi da čita, može se malko i nasemjati. Glejzer imao "sastanak" sa predstavnicima navjiača.

 

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Inside the Manchester United fans’ forum with Joel Glazer

Andy Mitten 3h ago 

Manchester United’s extraordinary fans’ forum on Friday was the first time Joel Glazer had communicated with supporters since a brief message where he promised to do exactly that after the controversial 2005 takeover.

The meeting, over Zoom, lasted last two hours 10 minutes — 20 minutes more than scheduled. The 11 fans didn’t receive payment for their time but switched work and family holidays around so that they could attend a second forum in three weeks. Some points were pre-submitted to Glazer in a letter to him at the previous fans’ forum — the vast majority were not. The tone of the conversation was described by one club source as a “polite, respectful and constructive dialogue” and that “United didn’t want to come into the meeting with a pre-cooked plan. The club wanted dialogue”.

Administered by the club’s Chief Operating Officer, Mancunian Collette Roche, the meeting began with each fan introducing themselves to Glazer. They were Chas Banks, James Coatsworth, Keith Coutts, Alan Harvey, Janine Kasmir, John Massey, Richard McGagh, Anthony Sewart, Ian Stirling, Kieran Stockton and Mick Thorne. Each outlined their role. Banks, for example, represents United Disabled Supporters’ Association; McGagh is the season ticket holder rep; Stirling is from MUST, United’s supporters’ trust. There were members representing United’s supporters’ branches, senior fans, family stand members, local fans and so on. Fans were invited to submit questions to be put to Glazer.

Joel Glazer said “Pleased to meet you” to each of them, before McGagh read the following statement, which had been agreed by all eleven:

“We want Manchester United to be the best football club in the world, both on and off the pitch.

“We believe this is best achieved through fans — who are the club — having a much more active role in the way the club is run and how it operates.

“Our success should never be measured by the profit we generate. Or the number of social media interactions we receive.

“Success for Manchester United Football Club should be measured by the way our teams play, the trophies we win, the development of youth players who break into the first team, the quality of our stadium and facilities, the investment and time we spend in the local community and the enjoyment, respect and voice we give to our fans.

“Manchester United Football Club should always strive to be No 1 but should never arrogantly believe we are. We should always engage with match-going supporters to identify where we can improve, how we can give more back and how we can resolve any issues fans are facing.

“The club should use its position to do good for the wider game including clubs and fans at all levels. We should never lose sight of the role football plays in communities around the world and we should ensure grassroots football and the whole football pyramid gets a fair share of the money the game generates to protect it for future generations.

“Manchester United Football Club should always remember and celebrate our rich history. And we should always invest in our future and place youth, both on the pitch and in the stands, at the heart of what we do.

“The shareholders of our football club are only ever temporary custodians. They must work tirelessly to understand what the club means to its fans and to ensure all decisions they take are done in the best interests of the fans and the team.

“Joel, if you truly do understand the football club you currently own the majority of shares in then act now. Make the significant changes we have requested. Let us have a proper voice. Give fans the opportunity to buy shares with the same voting rights you have. Do not limit the amount we can buy. We will pay the market rate for them. And we will make the club the best in the world in all areas. Because we love the club. We always have and we always will. We will always put it first. And we will always be here, forever and ever.”

“That’s a good start to the meeting and will hopefully set the tone,” said Roche, who then passed onto Joel Glazer.

“I’ll go off agenda for one second because that was very meaningful to me,” said Glazer. “Everything you said is what I believe in ultimately. We don’t know each other and I’m far away right now talking to you through a screen, but you hit upon the points that I truly believe that football is all about. Football has changed a lot over the years but I can tell that we are broadly on the same page with what we want with this football club.”

The agenda followed. There was an operational update from Roche, talking about a return of fans at Old Trafford, ticketing and season tickets. She added that the stadium will have new LED floodlights installed, the Premier League had given United an award for the best pitch and that COVID-19 restrictions were likely to continue into next season. A further update centred on new floodlights and pitches being brought in at the training ground and there was a response to criticism about the facilities for the women’s and academy teams with the news that they will start to train in one location after more improvements.

Joel Glazer started talking after 15 minutes, after he’d taken himself off mute. He said he wanted to hit on a lot of issues.

The 50-year-old started with an apology, saying it wasn’t right it was the first time speaking with the fans (in 16 years). He said he can’t change what has happened in the past, but wanted to work on change for the future.

Glazer said last season was unlike any other “with extremely difficult circumstances”, and that he wanted United to win trophies. He agreed that fans are the lifeblood of the club — “we are stewards and someone will be there after us” — and that the recent decision to join a Super League was a mistake and said “sometimes you need a wake-up call”. He apologised for this poor decision-making and said Manchester United would never again enter a new competition without consultation with fans.

Glazer said his family will pay any fines that have been or will be levied by the Super League and explained why they have not engaged with fans; his reason being they never wanted to be out in front of the media, with the manager and players doing the talking instead. He admitted that in retrospect his silence was the wrong approach as created the impression the Glazers didn’t care and that their only concern was “about money and commercial interests”. He said this was not true.

Glazer said he loved Manchester United and while he’d been fortunate to attend games while not living in Manchester, he watched every single match, and took losses by the team “hard”. He said he didn’t like coming second.

Glazer explained that without a successful commercial operation, you cannot have a successful football club but admitted these interests may have come to the fore too much. He felt that when his family took over, the commercial area was one he felt his family could help and claimed many positives had come from this: United had among the highest net transfer spend and wages in world football and they haven’t raised ticket prices in 10 years (though they had shot up in the five years prior, when his father Malcolm was making decisions).

With United leading the way on issues like ticket prices, he said, other clubs were pressured to do the same. This segment of the meeting was later included in United’s press release quoting Glazer as saying: “We want this club to always be successful and win trophies. To compete for trophies requires significant investment. The commercial growth at the club has helped deliver the revenue which ultimately underpins that investment in a sustainable manner.

“That approach has allowed us to have among the highest net transfer spend in world football over the last five years and have one of the highest wage bills. Also, as a direct result of our commercial business, we have kept ticket prices affordable for all fans and not raised season ticket prices in over 10 years. This is an area that we as a club are very proud of.”

Glazer wanted to break down the areas of “conflict” he had with fans and work in a more fruitful way. He explained how he wanted to do that — adding that recent events had caused a lot of that thinking. Glazer proposed strengthening the fans’ forum with elected members — more involvement and more people to get all views, to also create a fan advisory board to consult with the club’s senior leadership, including him, on a regular basis. He said this would be a more intimate opportunity and they could talk about potentially confidential information.

Glazer spoke about a share scheme, described thus in the press release:

“The club has initiated a direct dialogue with MUST with the aim of identifying a mutually beneficial Fan Share Scheme involving a new class of shares which will each carry the same voting rights as the shares owned by the Glazer family. This would establish a foundation for supporters to build a meaningful ownership stake and create a new spirit of partnership with the club.”

He added it could create the largest fan ownership in world sport. He hoped these two ideas could reset the relationship with the supporters and strengthen the club as a whole.

In addition, Glazer said United would fully work with the UK Government’s fan-led review, adding there were a lot of problems in football and the football pyramid that needed to be addressed.

Glazer said he wanted to continue to invest in the academy and balance this with competing in the transfer market. He added that much had gone on behind the scenes adapting the club for the future from a global scouting standpoint, stating: “The world and the transfer market has changed a lot and we’ve had to try to adapt with it. We have put a lot of foundations that have put us in good stead for the future. We don’t always get it right and we didn’t always get it right, but I feel we are definitely on the right track to compete for trophies and be in a position where this club should be.”

With regard to Old Trafford, a stadium which has been criticised for its lack of development in recent years, Glazer stated that increased investment will see upgrades to its infrastructure. He said: “Old Trafford is at the heart of Manchester United and while we have spent over £100 million over the last 10 years on infrastructure projects, we will now accelerate the process of planning much more significant investment and upgrades to the stadium. Rest assured, we will consult with supporters throughout the process to end up with a result we can all be proud of.

“The same goes for our training ground. Preliminary planning work is already underway and there will be significant funding available to further enhance our facilities and ensure they remain world-class.”

Glazer spoke uninterrupted for 21 minutes before Richard Arnold, the club’s Managing Director, filled in detail on the shares, albeit with a bad connection on the call.

Finance director Hemen Tseayo added that United would never enter or leave competitions or move away from Old Trafford without consulting the fans. He explained that United will enable fans — through MUST, whom they’ve been in discussions with since last October — to collectively acquire shares in United and vote as a block. A new class of shares will be introduced with the money going to the club rather than an existing investor (like the Glazers). These would be high vote shares and carry the same voting and economic rights as those owned by the Glazer family.

“The club has been in discussions with MUST regarding a fan share scheme for a number of months and has already sought external legal advice on options. Discussions will now intensify, with the aim of agreeing a plan before the start of the new season,” read the statement.

“The fans will be treated like a seventh Glazer,” was Tseayo’s comment about share ownership.

The questions and answers started after 42 minutes and lasted more than 90. There were more than 100 questions sent in and these should be covered in the minutes from the meeting, which United always release from the fans’ forum. Director of Communications Charlie Brooks set out the first batch. The first question asked for a response to the letter from the last fans’ forum: “You said you acknowledged the need to change, were committed to engage. What immediate actions have you taken? What has changed, what needs to change and what does the process for engagement with fans look like.”

Glazer said he wanted to make one step at a time and that he “didn’t oppose” “fans owning as many shares as possible and building up a meaningful stake”. He didn’t put a cap or deadlines on shares but wanted to get everyone behind the idea and go from there.

The fans each asked detailed questions, all of which were noted. They were forthright and cogent in their views, they talked of wanting action not words. There were no shrinking violets. Keys issues were fans owning shares and having genuine influence, investment in Old Trafford and the team.

A further take-out was Glazer saying United was a very well-run club. Asked why the Glazers took annual dividends, he said the amounts were “modest” “and less than three per cent of our revenue” and that the dividends had never stood in the way of transfers. He added that: “We may have walked away from a transfer because the other side wanted outlandish numbers.”

On United’s much-criticized debt, Glazer said: “We think we have a very comfortable position. We pay a very low interest rate. We had been reducing our debts until the pandemic hit.” He added that United didn’t furlough one person, took no government money and that they would keep investing on the pitch.

Banks, 70, thanked Glazer for the investment in the disabled facilities but talked of his “real hurt” that his shares, which he intended to pass to his son, were compulsorily purchased in the 2005 takeover. Glazer came back to that point several times — he was caught by it. Banks added it “felt wrong” that Glazer’s brother Avram was cashing in £70 million of shares earlier this year when the roof at Old Trafford was leaking, and thought the club had become a laughing stock.

Fans talked about tangible action, about that action being louder than words, about details and dates. And, encouraging though the meeting was perceived to be by those present, that’s what will ultimately matter.

“I’m going to answer every single question,” said Glazer, who’d taken notes and spent another 29 minutes answering them. “And I’m not going to tell you just what you want to hear.” He talked of naming rights for the stadium (no, unless fans want that), expanding Old Trafford, and much more.

He talked the talk, now he must walk the walk.

“It has to be less about words. It has to be about action.” The words of Joel Glazer on Friday, June 4, 2021.

 

Sigrno brani penale bolje od DDG-a. 

[ArleKino]

On 2.6.2021. at 13:08, Lancia said:

Pa nije sarkazam, Onana nije golman za Arsenal, znam ga jos iz Barse, mislim sasvim prosecan, nevezano za doping. Arsenal je veliki klub, sta bi falilo da krenu da pazare nesto ljudski?¿ 

S druge strane, sta bi falilo Danarumi u Arsenalu?

 

Onana? U jednu ruku da...

 

Arsenal ima solidnog shot-stoppera (Leno), ali je imao boljeg golmana za Premiership (Martinez) kojeg je morao prodati zbog finansija. Leno se sve više dvoumi oko ostanka u Arsenalu, neosvajanje titula je imao i u Leverkusenu u izobilju.

 

20 hours ago, Jeremija said:

 

 

 

Ne vidim nikakav "blow" za Arsenal ovdje.

 

Povezujemo se sa Nevesom iz Wolvesa što mi se sviđa, uz disklejmer da i dalje smatram da Mendesa treba uništiti.

[Jeremija]

Just now, ArleKino said:

 

 

 

Ne vidim nikakav "blow" za Arsenal ovdje.

 

Povezujemo se sa Nevesom iz Wolvesa što mi se sviđa, uz disklejmer da i dalje smatram da Mendesa treba uništiti.

 

 

E, pa bio je blow (možda ne za tebe lično), navodno ste već sve imali dogovoreno sa igračem, slično kao i Barselona sa Ginijem:

 

 

 

[ArleKino]

@Jeremija Ma sve OK, ali ja nešto nisam fasciniran ovim momkom da bih zaplakao što neće doći.

 

Villa valjda ganja Ward-Prowsea, odoše Sotone u Championship dok si odbrojao do devet. Taktika je već sad jasna: Grealish da izbori slobodnjak, Ward-Prowse da ga zabije.

[Jeremija]

Čim Villa tako ganja igrače, to (verovatno) znači da je Grealish već prodat...

Edited June 6, 2021 by Jeremija

[ArleKino]

Just now, Jeremija said:

Čim Villa tako ganja igrače. to (verovatno) znači da je Grealish verovatno već prodat...

 

Možda, a možda ga nastoje uvjeriti u 1 projekat. Imaju solidan tim, sa ovim nadogradnjama bi mogli i čelendžovati Top 6 (gdje bi i bili prošle sezone da je Grealish bio fit).

[Jeremija]

Nego Arlo, jesi video ovo?

 

 

 

 

[Lancia]

Ja se tog Buendije ni ne secam dok je igrao za Hetafe, Arsenal ima srece ko Barsa sa ovim sto ode kodd Borrisa.

[ArleKino]

4 minutes ago, Jeremija said:

Nego Arlo, jesi video ovo?

 

 

 

 

 

Jesam. Ne znam, mislim da ako Neves dođe, nećemo uzeti Bissoumu, ali eto, vidjećemo.

[Mindaugas Žukauskas]

...

Edited June 6, 2021 by Mindaugas Žukauskas

[copkillah]

3 hours ago, WTID said:

 

Ovde bi trebalo pogledati protiv kojih ekipa je Phillips skupio 17 nastupa, mecevi poput Palaca, Sheff U, WBA ce sigurno podici statistiku ukoliko ne igra protiv Spursa, Chelsea, klubova iz Manchestera....

 

Možda treba da stavimo na početak topica objašnjenje kako da se čitaju ovakvi postovi, ja sam mislio da su ljudi to odavno naučili na čuvenom primeru uporednih statistika Tajusa Brembla i Nemanje Vidića  Mislim, imali smo nedavno ovakva poređenja Van Dajka sa... bilo kim

 

 

[WTID]

2 minutes ago, copkillah said:

 

Možda treba da stavimo na početak topica objašnjenje kako da se čitaju ovakvi postovi, ja sam mislio da su ljudi to odavno naučili na čuvenom primeru uporednih statistika Tajusa Brembla i Nemanje Vidića  Mislim, imali smo nedavno ovakva poređenja Van Dajka sa... bilo kim

 

 

 

Propustio sam te casove 

[copkillah]

9 minutes ago, WTID said:

 

Propustio sam te casove 

Zar stvarno treba da se naglasi da je očigledna sprdnja kada se okači post gde Net Filips ima bolje statistike od Rubena Diasa? Šta si ti, Koltrejn?

 

Inače RD jeste doneo veoma pozitivnu promenu u odbranu Sitija, bio je jedan od par najboljih igrača sezone, ali zaista nije trebalo da postoji dilema da li je Kejn igrač sezone.