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13 hours ago, Tribun_Populi said:

 


OT: koliko je moguće uspomoć domaće pameti „zakrpiti“ backdoor, bilo hardverski ili softverski, kad kupiš tako neku značajniju komunikacionu opremu npr. za potrebe vojske ili poverljivih državnih veza?
 

 

 

Skoro nemoguće. Veliki igrači se trude da prave komunikacionu i vojnu opremu sa što više svojih komponti. Idealno bi bilo da se proizvodi sve, od hardvera do softvera, ali je taj luksuz rezervisan za USA, Rusiju, Kinu, Izrael i možda još par država.

Rusi npr prave svoje mikroprocesore (Elbrus-8 i Elbrus8s) u državnoj firmi MCST. Pored ostalog ugrađuju ih i u superkompjutere...

http://mil.today/2017/Science29/

 

Ako nisi u top 5, osuđen si da kupuješ komponente za kritičnu infrastrukturu, a to je uvek mačak u džaku, i to u džaku koji nema šanse da zakrpiš.

Npr velika švajcarska firma Crypto AG, koja proizvodi kriptografsku opremu snabdeva veliki broj država, čak i velikih. Ta oprema se koristi u tim državama u njihovim diplomatskim predstavništvima, obaveštajnim agencijama i vojsci. 

 

https://www.crypto.ch/en

 

Međutim, ispostavilo se da su njihovi proizvodi sa ugrađenim backdoorom, za koji su ključ imali NSA, BND i britanske službe 

 

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According to declassified (but partly redacted) US government documents released in 2015, in 1955, Crypto AG's founder Boris Hagelin and William Friedman entered into an unwritten agreement concerning the C-52 encryption machines that compromised the security of some of the purchasers.[4] Friedman was a notable US government cryptographer who was then working for National Security Agency (NSA), the main United States signals intelligence agency. Hagelin kept both NSA and its United Kingdom counterpart, Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), informed about the technical specifications of different machines and which countries were buying which ones. Providing such information would have allowed the intelligence agencies to reduce the time needed to crack the encryption of messages produced by such machines from impossibly long to a feasible length. The secret relationship initiated by the agreement also involved Crypto AG not selling machines such as the CX-52, a more advanced version of the C-52, to certain countries; and the NSA writing the operations manuals for some of the CX-52 machines on behalf of the company, to ensure the full strength of the machines would not be used, thus again reducing the necessary cracking effort. Crypto AG claims that the products it currently sells are not compromised.

 

a imaju tako lepa rešenja:

 

https://www.crypto.ch/en/solutions/crypto-network-centric-warfare-solution

 

https://www.crypto.ch/en/solutions/crypto-secure-diplomatic-messaging-solution

 

https://www.crypto.ch/en/solutions/crypto-e-government-solution 

 

:happy:

 

 

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Čutura

pa sta su mislili, da ce kinezi da predju preko toga ko da se nista nije desilo?

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desboj
10 hours ago, Redoran said:

... od čega su dva slova identična?

Upravo tako. 

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Pantelija jr

Aj za nas sa jeftinijim ulaznicama...

 

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Čutura

jedno m i jedno d :Jova:

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Pantelija jr

Glup sam glup sam

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desboj
4 hours ago, desboj said:

Upravo tako. 

Isteče vreme za edit 😀

Ono malo što se zna( od trojanaca instaliranih na CDovima promo materijala random naučnih simpozijuma preko stuxneta na 30 godina starim simensovim centrifugama za obogaćivanje uranijuma, pa do Intel procesora dizajniranih (samo) u Haifi sa dokazanim špijunskim rupama i rupicama) je domaći zadatak za svaku kgbfsbciabia kamarilu.

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laser lotus

Mossad jednostavno nema clout kakav imaju neke druge agencije. U Stuxnet su bili uključeni i Amerikanci, GCHQ je elegantno izbušio belgijski telekom, trojanci na CDu naspram USB drajvova koji dampuju kompletnu memoriju čim ga utakneš u računar (makar laptop bio i zaključan)... Teško je procijeniti tu ko je gavni baja na osnovu malo podataka koji dođu do javnosti.

 

btw koji su to procesori iz Haife i šta je specifično za njih u odnosu na ostale Intelove procesore?

 

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namenski

Balkanski spijun se sajberizovaotm… :fantom:

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desboj
5 hours ago, laser lotus said:

koji su to procesori iz Haife i šta je specifično za njih u odnosu na ostale Intelove procesore?

Svi Intelovi procesori napravljeni u zadnjih 15ak godina imaju veze sa tim centrom, neki i u potpunosti dizajnirani tamo. A najava od letos je

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Intel announced new 8th generation processors in August 2018 that promised up to twelve times faster connectivity speeds and twice the performance of a processor manufactured five years prior. These new processors were developed and designed at Intel's campus in Haifa, Israel. An official statement from Intel claims that these new processors will offer significant gains for users in office productivity, gaming and content creation.  

 

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laser lotus

Znam da je Core serija započeta na osnovu njihovog dizajna za Pentium M - kad se ispostavilo da je Pentium 4 linija ćorak i da više ne mogu da se pumpaju Mhz i toplota koja ide uz to. Ali u sklopu ove priče malo mi je nategnuto da oni tu mogu da rade nešto bez znanja Amerikanaca.

btw koje dokazane rupe? ME?

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