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noskich
2 hours ago, peralozac said:

Iz lakonskih odgovora i linkova koje kačiš mogu samo da zaključim da nemaš jasnu ideju ni šta želiš ni kako bi to postigao.  Mada, s obzirom na duplo kačenje priče iz Meksika, možda grešim u vezi ovog drugog. Moguće je da si fasciniran idejom "The women met in secret to make their plans". Pošalješ ženu da promeni svet, a ti na miru forumašiš. Savršeno, a? 

 

 

Ne znam kakav plan i program ocekujes da se izlaze na forumu. Jednostavno = lokalna samouprava direktnom demokratijom, delegiranje privremenih predstavnika koji se bilo kada mogu opozvati sa preciznim zaduzenjima - recimo odrzavanje ili izgradnja puta izmedju dve lokalne zajednice... Kooperative, sloboda bilo koga da pokrene kooperativu ili se prikljuci postojecoj... 

Logistika i proizvodnja se danas daleko bolje moze organizovati analizom podataka nego "slepom rukom trzista". Ako imamo precizne podatke tacno koji broj clanova zajednice recimo voli kroasane i kada je poslednja tura kroasana bila distribuirana mozemo tacno znati koliko i kada nam kroasana treba. Takodje sa danasnjim tehnologijama za mnoge stvari ti vise uopste ne treba grid. Lokalana solarna energija, 3D printing itd.

 

Ako pogledas ova dva dokumentarca iznad videces da je Barselona funkcionisala bolje za vreme anarhisticke samouprave nego pre i nakon nje. 

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peralozac
33 minutes ago, noskich said:

Ne znam kakav plan i program ocekujes da se izlaze na forumu

 

OK mislio sam da ti je (kao i meni) jedan od razloga što si ovde da koliko toliko sačuvaš srpski :)

 

Opet mi nisi odgovorio na pitanje. Imam osećaj da kada razmišljaš o ovoj temi ti u glavi stalno imaš neke seoske zajednice iz srednjeg veka, a ne gradove dvadeset prvog.

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noskich
3 minutes ago, peralozac said:

 

OK mislio sam da ti je (kao i meni) jedan od razloga što si ovde da koliko toliko sačuvaš srpski :)

 

Opet mi nisi odgovorio na pitanje. Imam osećaj da kada razmišljaš o ovoj temi ti u glavi stalno imaš neke seoske zajednice iz srednjeg veka, a ne gradove dvadeset prvog.

 

Hoces da ti prepricavam sta se desilo u Barseloni tokom gradjanskog rata? Izvini nemam bas toliko slobodnog vremena.

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Laku noć Noskiču. Sweet rural dreams.

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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/apr/20/yanis-varoufakis-marx-crisis-communist-manifesto

 

"The manifesto argues that the problem with capitalism is not that it produces too much technology, or that it is unfair. Capitalism’s problem is that it is irrational. Capital’s success at spreading its reach via accumulation for accumulation’s sake is causing human workers to work like machines for a pittance, while the robots are programmed to produce stuff that the workers can no longer afford and the robots do not need. Capital fails to make rational use of the brilliant machines it engenders, condemning whole generations to deprivation, a decrepit environment, underemployment and zero real leisure from the pursuit of employment and general survival. Even capitalists are turned into angst-ridden automatons. They live in permanent fear that unless they commodify their fellow humans, they will cease to be capitalists – joining the desolate ranks of the expanding precariat-proletariat.

If capitalism appears unjust it is because it enslaves everyone, rich and poor, wasting human and natural resources. The same “production line” that pumps out untold wealth also produces deep unhappiness and discontent on an industrial scale. So, our first task – according to the manifesto – is to recognise the tendency of this all-conquering “energy” to undermine itself."

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The 1990 opening of Moscow’s first McDonald’s

 

 

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