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1 minute ago, Heaviside said:

Nego što nego treba, samo kažem da bi i po tom pitanju bilo dobro da ga puste. Lakše bi se izolovao u Monaku nego u Australiji. Ludilo bi bilo na njegovim mečevima, verovatno bi svaki bio suroviji od finala Vimldona 2019 (valjda 2019, čuveni aristokratski kažiprst)

 

Ludilo bi bilo i da su ga pustili bez ovog cirkusa, s tim sto onda oni ne bi imali nikakvu stetu. Politicari skoro svi imaju ugradjenu gresku da previse podrazumevaju u stvarima koje misle da mogu da kontrolisu ali se one zapravo jako lako otimaju kontroli. Prakticno polovina ratova pocinje tako sto politicari/drzavnici isprojektuju svoje planove i ocekuju da se oni glatko ostvare ali se to obicno ne desi pa rat pocne da namece svoj ritam i svoju logiku, koja se onda samo prati bez pune kontrole. Na mikro nivou ono sto sam siguran da se desilo u ovom slucaju je da su svi oni ocekivali da ce Novak jednostavno da se okrene i vrati kuci istim avionom. Eto, ta jedna losa procena je dovela do svega ovoga.

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15 minutes ago, harper said:

 

Ludilo bi bilo i da su ga pustili bez ovog cirkusa, s tim sto onda oni ne bi imali nikakvu stetu. Politicari skoro svi imaju ugradjenu gresku da previse podrazumevaju u stvarima koje misle da mogu da kontrolisu ali se one zapravo jako lako otimaju kontroli. Prakticno polovina ratova pocinje tako sto politicari/drzavnici isprojektuju svoje planove i ocekuju da se oni glatko ostvare ali se to obicno ne desi pa rat pocne da namece svoj ritam i svoju logiku, koja se onda samo prati bez pune kontrole. Na mikro nivou ono sto sam siguran da se desilo u ovom slucaju je da su svi oni ocekivali da ce Novak jednostavno da se okrene i vrati kuci istim avionom. Eto, ta jedna losa procena je dovela do svega ovoga.

100% su mislili da će odmah da se vrati. Ovakvu odluku može da donese samo ludak Đokovićevog kalibra. Zamisli Federera da dobrovoljno pristane na ovo umesto da se uvređeno okrene i vrati se u svoj privatni avion ili bilo kog drugog milionera superstara. Nema teorije. 

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24 minutes ago, Heaviside said:

100% su mislili da će odmah da se vrati. Ovakvu odluku može da donese samo ludak Đokovićevog kalibra. Zamisli Federera da dobrovoljno pristane na ovo umesto da se uvređeno okrene i vrati se u svoj privatni avion ili bilo kog drugog milionera superstara. Nema teorije. 

 

To pricam od pocetka ali konacno je utvrdjeno kad su mu uzeli prtljag i komotno mu rekli da ce da mu ga vrate kad se ukrca u avion nazad.

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Why Djokovic's time at the airport is crucial

His lawyers are now onto their final arguments - and it's all about Djokovic's experience at the airport.

This is crucial because much of the legal argument flows from how he was treated and what he was told by officials.

Legal grounds like "procedural unfairness" and "legal reasonableness" are essentially protections for people to be treated according to established rules. In this case it's an immigration official making that decision late at night to cancel Djokovic's visa.

The player's lawyers are arguing that several facts of the situation made this unfair; not least the fact that Djokovic was fresh off a 25-hour plane journey, unrested, and unclear as to what had gone wrong with his visa.

Djokovic didn't get to speak to his lawyers or other authorities who could help during his time at the airport.

After being approached by officials, he asked for extra time to wait until the morning - 0830am - to hear from his team and this was initially agreed to by officials. He then went to sleep to get some rest, but he was woken up around 06:00 by officials who allegedly pressured him to respond "because it was better for him if they made the decision right away".

Djokovic also says they told him to accept his visa cancellation immediately so then his legal team would know what they were dealing with in the morning.

These directions were "spurious" and "manifestly unjust", his lawyer says.

If such grounds of unfairness are convincing to the judge, those are legal errors by which Djokovic can win his case.

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Vidim da se situacija pomno prati, ne samo u Australiji i Srbiji nego i po drugim zemljama. Nadam se da je sad jasno ono što sam ranije pominjao da se radi o spuštanju savezne vlade vladi Viktorije. Mislim da Đoković ima više šanse da dobije spor nego što mi je to izgledalo u petak (danas sam pričao i sa Ozi kolegom čija je žena iskusan advokat i koja je pročitala podneske, kaže da je argument vlade vrlo labav i nepotpun), kao i da ima šanse da mu zbog sve ove frke ako uspe da nastupi publika u Melburnu manje zviždi (pisao sam koliko su tamo kivni na Morisona i saveznu vladu, naravno sa izuzetkom Moracikusa koji je kivan na njihovog Dena) jer je uspešno napušio Morisona.

 

SaE

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Dvajesdruge, dvajesdruge Srbin pobedijo. :s_d:

 

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Judge Anthony Kelly, reads out a minute agreed to by both the government and Djokovic, where he quashes the decision to cancel Novak Djokovic’s visa, orders government to pay costs, and for Djokovic to be released from detention in 30 minutes with his passport and personal effects released to him.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2022/jan/10/novak-djokovic-appeal-federal-circuit-court-cancellation-australian-visa-covid-vaccination-live-updates

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