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  On 23. 1. 2011. at 20:01, McCabe said:
Опа бато, пала кандидатура за 1 мода! Или си у слободно време и историчар уметности, поред климатолога, ратног историчара, драматурга и тренера?
Да не да Бог да будем модератор икада а посебно овде. Да ти одговорим на постављено питање: Да јесам, осим климатологије која је врло близу моје струке, све остало јако волим. Ренесансни тип, шта ћеш. Оно видех да ти о свему имаш мишљење, ја не могу свуда да стигнем. Усупут, оно последње има везе са уметношћу колико Гума са лоптањем или Арсенијевић са писањем.

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@ Reaktor - vrlo dobro, na to sam mislio.@ Enpe - tvoj doprinos na ovoj temi je od krucijalnog znacaja.@ McCabe - zaista zanimljivi vizuelni doprinosi, no cisto 1 stilski remark. tema se zove art abortus klinika jer je zapravo posvecena onim fenomenima koji poptpadaju pod deo popkulturnog spektruma koji se tradicionalno zove low culture. negde je poenta teme [ili valjda jedna od] - a ja sad radim ono sto sam u startu rekao da necu raditi [predeterminisem njen razvoj] - da se kroz inteligentne i zanimljive primere iz low culture-a pokaze da su te granice zapravo odavno izbrisane. ali nemojte me drzati za rec :D 1 zicer:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTAtlcC7Nwk

ako je tema intersekcija popularne kulture, radikalnih politika sa osvrtom na uemtnicke i para-umetnicke prakse 70tih (a margot je vrlo dobro ukazala na cinjenicu da su se neki u formalnom smislu radikalni zahvati desavali u samom srcu umetnickog sveta da ne kazem establismenta) onda ja mogu dodati samo nesto ovako:engleski situacionisti: grupa king mob. kontrakultura 60tih. geneza: gordon riots 1780 > engleski situacionisti ranih 70tih > alan moore > grant morrison.vizuelno ta istorija izgleda ovako:gordon_riots03_l.jpgking_mob_web.jpgwtchmn002009.jpg1-1.jpg

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  On 24. 1. 2011. at 0:55, kim_philby said:
ako je tema intersekcija popularne kulture, radikalnih politika sa osvrtom na uemtnicke i para-umetnicke prakse 70tih (a margot je vrlo dobro ukazala na cinjenicu da su se neki u formalnom smislu radikalni zahvati desavali u samom srcu umetnickog sveta da ne kazem establismenta
yep, jedna od tema da. ali i radikalnost zahvata nezavisno od odnosa establisment-mainstream. a jebeni musique concrete [koji mi je ovde skbb stavka, dodje mi da ga izbrisem kolko smo mu redova posvetili] je stavljen iskljucivo zato sto je to prapocetak svih pre-recorded muzika koje odrazavaju princip repetativnosti umetnosti industrijskog doba, atalijevski shvaceno. a bez toga nemamo key link with contemporaneity, music-wise. a ako su svi ovi pobrojani izvan umetnosti, nisu izvan vremena :D i jos jednom, yep - to je to [king mob]. umetnici koji prave liste umetnika za odstrel :D

a bice ubijanja umjetnika? Sto niste odma rekli!!!

  On 23. 1. 2011. at 20:22, Indy said:
A establishment se grdno nasekirao. Uopste ne znam koga ovo zanima, osim onog ko se tim bavi.
ta-da, to je VOJNA! :wub:VOINA FUCKS THE KGB WITH A GIANT COCKkurac pravo preko zgrade KGB-a. nemojte anulirati razoruzhavanje tabuima tamo gde su jos uvek akumulirani :)3-voina-group.jpgmisterije KGBorganizmaMoscow lynching of 2 gays and three immigrants by Voina groupi za kraj poslastica u obliku lajvdzurnala : igraju se tabuimaajde pametnice jedne, napravite neki trol gde vojnu finansiraju razulareni ostaci kgb-a da bi pokazali kako je rusija pravdoljubiva zemlja ljubavi, istine i slobode :Pi ne dozvoljavam banksy trol, go screw yourselves! :)p.sporucnik arsenijevic disser, but that's so 2001 :lol:

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Voina Arrested! Russian Artists Face 7 Years in PrisonMembers of the ultra elusive, notorious protest art group Voina were hunted down and arrested in Moscow earlier this week. In September, Voina overturned a cop car at the site of a royal reformer’s assassination in 1801 and locked the cops inside the castle with a bike chain to bring attention to the corruption within the Russian Interior Ministry.Two artists – Leonid Nikolayev and Oleg Vorotnikov – are now in a St Petersburg jail for 2 months, awaiting trial for “aggravated hooliganism” pitched as a hate crime on cops. Voina understands the $3,500 fine in damaging the police cruiser, but 7 years in the inhuman conditions of a Russian prison seems like disproportionate personal vengeance.There’s a difference between vandalism and protest art, but this sort of discussion is impossible given the climate. The arrest of one of Voina’s chief organizers is damaging and disturbing, but Voina says the group will continue with actions: “An artist can’t shut up and stop doing his work.”See the video of the Royal Overturn action here. Also: Voina’s Epic Dick Bombing of the St. Petersburg Bridge and rebel:art’s recent interview with Voina in English.
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Then the Abbé de Seyes rais'd his feetOn the steps of the Louvre; like a voice of God following a storm, the Abbé follow'dThe pale fires of Aumont into the chamber, as a father that bows to his son;Whose rich fields inheriting spread their old glory, so the voice of the people bowedBefore the ancient seat of the kingdom and mountains to be renewed."Hear, O Heavens of France, the voice of the people, arising from valley and hill,O'erclouded with power. Hear the voice of vallies, the voice of meek cities,Mourning oppressed on village and field, till the village and field is a waste.For the husbandman weeps at blights of the fife, and blasting of trumpets consumeThe souls of mild France; the pale mother nourishes her child to the deadly slaughter.When the heavens were seal'd with a stone, and the terrible sun clos'd in an orb, and the moonRent from the nations, and each star appointed for watchers of night,The millions of spirits immortal were bound in the ruins of sulphur heavenTo wander inslav'd; black, deprest in dark ignorance, kept in awe with the whip,To worship terrors, bred from the blood of revenge and breath of desire,In beastial forms; or more terrible men, till the dawn of our peaceful morning,Till dawn, till morning, till the breaking of clouds, and swelling of winds, and the universal voice,Till man raise his darken'd limbs out of the caves of night, his eyes and his heartExpand: where is space? where O Sun is thy dwelling? where thy tent, O faint slumb'rous Moon?Then the valleys of France shall cry to the soldier, 'Throw down thy sword and musket,And run and embrace the meek peasant.' Her Nobles shall hear and shall weep, and put offThe red robe of terror, the crown of oppression, the shoes of contempt, and unbuckleThe girdle of war from the desolate earth; then the Priest in his thund'rous cloudShall weep, bending to earth embracing the valleys, and putting his hand to the plowShall say, 'No more I curse thee; but now I will bless thee: No more in deadly blackDevour thy labour; nor lift up a cloud in thy heavens, O laborious plow,That the wild raging millions, that wander in forests, and howl in law blasted wastes,Strength madden'd with slavery, honesty, bound in the dens of superstition,May sing in the village, and shout in the harvest, and woo in pleasant gardensTheir once savage loves, now beaming with knowledge, with gentle awe adorned;And the saw, and the hammer, the chisel, the pencil, the pen, and the instrumentsOf heavenly song sound in the wilds once forbidden, to teach the laborious plowmanAnd shepherd deliver'd from clouds of war, from pestilence, from night-fear, from murder,From falling, from stifling, from hunger, from cold, from slander, discontent and sloth;That walk in beasts and birds of night, driven back by the sandy desartLike pestilent fogs round cities of men: and the happy earth sing in its course,The mild peaceable nations be opened to heav'n, and men walk with their fathers in bliss.'Then hear the first voice of the morning: 'Depart, O clouds of night, and no moreReturn; be withdrawn cloudy war, troops of warriors depart, nor around our peaceable cityBreathe fires, but ten miles from Paris, let all be peace, nor a soldier be seen!' "

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Ja sam apsolutno gutted da iko misli da je to nesto sto treba podrzavati na bilo koji nacin. Ja bukvalno patim kad vidim nesto tako besmisleno. Osama Bin Laden mi se cini privlacnijim od tog vaseg sranja. 'Ajd uzdravlje.

  On 24. 1. 2011. at 12:09, Indy said:
Ja sam apsolutno gutted da iko misli da je to nesto sto treba podrzavati na bilo koji nacin. Ja bukvalno patim kad vidim nesto tako besmisleno. Osama Bin Laden mi se cini privlacnijim od tog vaseg sranja. 'Ajd uzdravlje.
ipak ti volis savremenu umetnost. makar YBA.
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9/11 wicked but a work of art, says Damien Hirst * Rebecca Allison * The Guardian, Wednesday 11 September 2002 02.13 BST * Article historyThe artist Damien Hirst said last night he believed the terrorists responsible for the September 11 attacks "need congratulating" because they achieved "something which nobody would ever have thought possible" on an artistic level.Hirst, who is no stranger to controversy, said many people would "shy away" from looking at the event as art but he believed the World Trade Centre attack was "kind of like an artwork in its own right".In an interview, Hirst told BBC News Online: "The thing about 9/11 is that it's kind of an artwork in its own right. It was wicked, but it was devised in this way for this kind of impact. It was devised visually."Describing the image of the hijacked planes crashing into the twin towers as "visually stunning", he added: "You've got to hand it to them on some level because they've achieved something which nobody would have ever have thought possible, especially to a country as big as America."So on one level they kind of need congratulating, which a lot of people shy away from, which is a very dangerous thing."Referring to how the event changed perceptions, he added: "I think our visual language has been changed by what happened on September 11: an aeroplane becomes a weapon - and if they fly close to buildings people start panicking. Our visual language is constantly changing in this way and I think as an artist you're constantly on the lookout for things like that."Hirst also said any military action to stop more terrorist acts would be a mistake: "I think the thing to do is to stand up and say hang on a minute - this is people, these are bodies, these are lives. The surest way to make it happen again is to go and start throwing stones at somebody."
inace ti se ljutis nakon sto ti neko ovde postuje pesmu vilijema blejka o francuskoj rvoluciji :(
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  On 24. 1. 2011. at 7:25, palfoot said:
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tako je ! to je taj orgijasticki borderline-trash tip art hepeninga koji mora dominirati na ovom topiku. idemo dalje. evo mog doprinosa u tom pravcu, sirimo s&q jevandjelje:Smell & Quim are sex obsessed noise/experimental duo of Milovan Srdenovic and D.Foist. They started out as trafickers of gothic imagery and deviance and later transformed into a satin-phalus'd, elvis-parodying, noise cabaret.bel01.jpg_bel02.jpg_bel04.jpghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl7KIM4xMt4
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pravda za late night public access artiste, they never get due credit:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKshlzJPFsQ

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Nastavlja se Mysterien Orgien Theater, za nas uporne socialclimbing with nothing better to do post-dendije. Posle Kubelke, Nitscha, OCD/attention-deficit Tchherkasskog od austrijskih briljantno mashtovitih stvaralaca neko je morao da radikalizuje i kvirilicu u atmosferi post-Filadelfija neoliberalne kvir festivalstine ;-)

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Mindbending queer cyberpunk trash epic from Austrian artist/filmmaker Hans Schierl, also the creator of the densely literary lesbian scifi Flaming Ears. This has got to be the most radically queer movie ever---seems like basically a whole gang of transeuropean transgendered artists & self-described "sex mutants" went wild making this, including Del Lagrace Volcano---but the sexuality often takes a back seat to the startling oversaturated garbage graphics and colliding/competing holographic fantasy realities Hans wants to throw in our faces. This gets the crumbling-reality feeling of Philip K Dick novels just right in a way that you don't often see---not that it owes a lot to PKD, though one device should be familiar to anyone who remembers the 'Perky Pat layouts' in Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch. Shades of Tetsuo and the Gormenghast books also, and the artist notes "Hong Kong and Japanese live-action comic-strips, splatter movies, queer underground, feminist and Viennese Aktionism" as influences. Incomprehensible on the surface, but the intricate time-travelling identity-shifting plot actually can be unscrambled on repeated viewings. "Hey dandy! I have the power to time travel!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFjX8OvllyQp.s :wub:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dq3nnrp0Ps

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posle Palfootovog delightful transeuropean transgender zakucavanja, mali intermeco u vidu permutativne poezije Briona Gysina u aranzmanu i izvedbi poznatog mail artiste iz 70s Bay Area Dada grupe:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4mQMHWRs8s+ prigodan link za citanje: Before Punk and Zines: Bay Area Dada

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sad jos samo neko da dodje da okaci bilo koji performans yoko ono iz 60ih/70ih, pa da se zakljuca topik, da ne padne forum pod naletom ovolikog umetnickog stila.

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