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10 minutes ago, Jumanji said:

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ili smo ekstremno zatupaveli kao civilizacija, kojoj inace predvidjam skoru propast i kraj?
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Pa rekoh ja. Cela cizivilacija je zatupavila. To nas planski zaglupljuju zli vanzemljaci s namerom da nas lakše porobe kad dodje vreme.

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Ja, naprotiv, samo da se piserem po masovnom virtue signallingu. Lik je izabran na fonu tako omiljene borbe protiv korupcije koja u južnoameričkim slučaju bukvalno znači prednapoleonovsku restauraciju. Sa druge strane ovo jeste polukolonijalno front kapitalizam proseravanje. Je ranije pre pozaes,more bolsonara ponudio makron neku kintu za Amazon? Recimo, od rente kopanja uranijuma u Nigeru.

 

Foliranje na kub.

 

I ti požari nisu od juče, ima BBC lepu reportažu, nego sad sa sve đake snimcima se lepo namestilo.

 

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1 hour ago, Anduril said:

Vrhunska relativizacija zla

Bolsonario jeste zlo.

 

Ipak Evropa isto tako dodaje benzina na ove pozare kupujući (40%) brazilske soje da nahrani svoja stada. Ta ista soja se skoro pa ekskluzivno gaji po bivšim amazonskim šumama. 

 

Nije sve crno bijelo kako se želi pokazati. 

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5 hours ago, Anduril said:

Vrhunska relativizacija zla

 

Kog zla?

 

Bolsonarove izjave.

 

Ili, pozara u Amazonu?

 

Bolsonaro je zlo, pisano je o tome.

 

A drugo je smesno. Pripisivati SAMO Bolsonaru pozare u Amazonu je relativizacija, kao sto je pripisivati Trampovim izjavama  masovna ubistva u SAD relativizacija.

 

Zabrinutost je cisto politicko pozicioniranje.

 

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4 hours ago, borris_ said:

Bolsonario jeste zlo.

 

Ipak Evropa isto tako dodaje benzina na ove pozare kupujući (40%) brazilske soje da nahrani svoja stada. Ta ista soja se skoro pa ekskluzivno gaji po bivšim amazonskim šumama. 

 

Nije sve crno bijelo kako se želi pokazati. 

 

+1

 

Umesto soje, na primer, mogla bi druga inicijativa.

 

Ne-eskploatacija Amazona je indirektni trosak za Brazil, ali i pozitivan efekat na ceo svet. Lepo bi, onda, bilo internalizovati to, tako da Svet plati Brazilu da ne eksplaotisu sumu.

 

 

Bila je na tu temu druga inicijativa Yasuni-ITT u Ekvadoru:

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Yasuni+initiative

 

Medjutim, nije se odresila  kesa, i sada se tamo driluje.

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Could One Man Single-Handedly Ruin the Planet?

By David Wallace-Wells

 

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An aerial view of Amazon rainforest deforestation, with trees being burned for farm management. Photo: Ricardo Funari/Brazil Photos/LightRocket via Getty Images

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But Brazil’s newly elected president just might test the proposition that no individual matters all that much to the climate. Often called the “Trump of the Tropics,” the cartoonish quasi-fascist Jair Bolsonaro is almost certain to be worse on global warming than Trump himself. So bad, in fact, that he is already a horrifying argument for a Great Man Theory of climate change.
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For starters, the plan to open up the Amazon would mean Brazil has absolutely no chance of meeting its Paris commitments. A group of Brazilian scientists has estimated that between 2021 and 2030, Bolsonaro’s deforestation would release the equivalent of 13.12 gigatons of carbon. Last year, the United States emitted about five gigatons. This means that this one policy would have between two and three times the annual carbon impact of the entire American economy, with all of its airplanes and automobiles and coal plants. The world’s worst emitter, by far, is China; the country was responsible for 9.1 gigatons of emissions in 2017. This means Bolsonaro’s policy is the equivalent of adding, if just for a year, a whole second China to the planet’s fossil-fuel problem — and, on top of that, a whole second United States. This is not a climate that can tolerate another China; according to the U.N.’s recent IPCC report, we may not even be able to tolerate the one we have for 12 more years. Bolsanaro’s single policy would fully eat up 20 percent of a stable climate’s total remaining carbon budget. As Emily Atkin put it at The New Republic, “The livability of the entire planet is at stake.”

But the problem is bigger than that extra carbon, believe it or not. The Amazon, alone, produces 20 percent of the world’s oxygen. A smaller, degraded rainforest won’t threaten our breathing air — there is just way too much oxygen around for us to ever worry about that. But the figure does signal just how prolific the Amazon is as a photosynthesizing force, which is critical because it produces all that oxygen out of carbon, which it sucks out of the air. And not just a little: The trees of the Amazon take in a quarter of all the carbon absorbed by the planet’s land each year. This is what makes it what scientists call a “carbon sink,” taking in large stores of CO2 that would otherwise be warming the planet even more drastically.

This is the forever problem of deforestation. Every tree cut in Bolsonaro’s denuded Amazon would release its carbon in a one-time burst, but the rainforest left behind would be smaller, which means it would be less capable of absorbing carbon. But the effect doesn’t just zero out; ultimately, it reverses. For years, scientists have worried that the world’s forests would flip from carbon sinks to carbon sources — become net producers of carbon rather than net absorbers. In fact, this is one of the feedback loops they most worry about: the planet’s not just losing one of its largest natural resources in mitigating the extreme possibilities of global warming, but having that resource turn against it, almost like a climate traitor, suddenly working on behalf of the most dire scenarios.
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new study this week from the World Wildlife Federation found that, globally, wildlife populations have declined by 60 percent since just 1970, at rates 1,000 times faster than at any previous point in planetary history — a discovery the WWF director general Marco Lambertini called“mind-blowing.” The UK chief executive put the news in somewhat more eye-opening perspective: “We are the first generation to know we are destroying our planet and the last one that can do anything about it.”
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Da se nadovezem na Makenzija.

 

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Does this happen every year?

Yes, but some areas have suffered far more than usual. In the worst-affected Brazilian state of Amazonas, the peak day this month was 700% higher than the average for the same date over the past 15 years. In other states, the amount of ash and other particulates in August has hit the highest level since 2010.

What is the cause?

Most of the fires are agricultural, either smallholders burning stubble after harvest, or farmers clearing forest for cropland. Illegal land-grabbers also destroy trees so they can raise the value of the property they seize. But they are manmade and mostly deliberate. Unlike the huge recent blazes in Siberia and Alaska, the Amazon fires are very unlikely to have been caused by lightning.

Is the entire forest ablaze?

No. Satellite monitoring experts say the images of an entire forest ablaze are exaggerated. A great deal of misinformation has been spread by social media, including the use of striking images from previous years’ burning seasons. This week, there are more large fires in Colombia and eastern Brazil than in the Amazon. Most of the agricultural burn-offs are in deforested areas. But there are also fires in protected reserves.

 

 

Drugim recima, frekvencija pozara je veca, ali povrsina zahvacena pozarima izgleda nije toliko veca.

 

Amazon je vazan, ali je histerija naduvana.

 

Jos jedno podsecanje da fake news nisu samo domen alt right vec i da se prosecni svetski Mile lako upeca ako su u pitanju kuce, mace, delfini i drvece. Ubedljivo najzgodnija stvar za manipulaciju.

 

 

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